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School tried to stop 5th grader from giving speech on SSM

I wouldn't let him talk either. I don't feel that it's the best subject for a FIFTH grader to speak on.
 
A new record for FAKE gay rights stories today, first the sorority non-story now an update (correction?) about a delay, first repoted as a ban. Or is this a fake 1st amendment story about gay rights? The bottom line, is that some gov't moron made a boo boo, corrected it after getting "educated" about being a moron in public, and life goes on. Thanks for sharing, have a nice day. ;-)
 
ttwtt78640 said:
A new record for FAKE gay rights stories today, first the sorority non-story now an update (correction?) about a delay, first repoted as a ban. Or is this a fake 1st amendment story about gay rights? The bottom line, is that some gov't moron made a boo boo, corrected it after getting "educated" about being a moron in public, and life goes on. Thanks for sharing, have a nice day. ;-)
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I think the fact that he had to get "educated" on it is rather telling, don't you?
 
Gipper said:
I wouldn't let him talk either. I don't feel that it's the best subject for a FIFTH grader to speak on.
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Why not?

Imo if a child asks about something then they are ready to learn about that something. In order to ask a question you must be able to percieve something about that something.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I think the fact that he had to get "educated" on it is rather telling, don't you?
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Absolutely. As a school principal, one MIGHT be expected to have the "smarts" to get it right the first time, but then you have to factor in the gov't employment "for life" factor, and then realize that this moron is STILL likely to be paid by us until they decide to retire. ;-)
 
My question is why did the principal not want to let him give the speech? The article doesn't say. If it was because he was against same sex marriage, that's completely different than if he didn't want the kid to give it because he didn't feel that same-sex marriage is an appropriate topic for a 5th grader.
 
Gipper said:
I wouldn't let him talk either. I don't feel that it's the best subject for a FIFTH grader to speak on.
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May I ask why not? If fifth graders can't talk about same-sex marriage, then should they not speak about opposite-sex marriage either? What's inappropriate about talking about the love and commitment of two people?
 
sweEt Mauritius said:
May I ask why not? If fifth graders can't talk about same-sex marriage, then should they not speak about opposite-sex marriage either? What's inappropriate about talking about the love and commitment of two people?
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What would 5th-graders know about either?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Absolutely. As a school principal, one MIGHT be expected to have the "smarts" to get it right the first time, but then you have to factor in the gov't employment "for life" factor, and then realize that this moron is STILL likely to be paid by us until they decide to retire. ;-)
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Having trouble with what exactly the Liberals are at fault for today?

Either the principal was right, or he was a moron.
 
nota bene said:
What would 5th-graders know about either?
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Uh what? They might know a thing or two about love and commitment from their parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, older siblings, cousins, family friends, community members, or anyone else in their life who is in a committed relationship. I'm not sure what your point is.
 
sweEt Mauritius said:
Uh what? They might know a thing or two about love and commitment from their parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, older siblings, cousins, family friends, community members, or anyone else in their life who is in a committed relationship. I'm not sure what your point is.
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My point is that they're 10 and 11.
 
nota bene said:
My point is that they're 10 and 11.
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They're 10 and 11 and... what? We should pretend that gay couples don't exist? Well it's the 21st century and loving, committed gay couples already do exist in the public sphere and the private sphere. In fact, chances are several of the students at the school are being raised by gay parents.

I'll ask again: what is inappropriate about talking about the love and commitment of two people to 5th graders? Is there something inherent in their age that you don't think they'll understand about the fact that a man can be in love with and commit his life to another man, or a woman with a woman?
 
I think that 10 and 11 year olds are emotionally fragile enough that you shouldn't intentionally try to complicate things for them. It sounds like you're wanting to do this with complete disregard to social adaptation, and instead trying the gay "shock and awe" campaign.
 
Gipper said:
I think that 10 and 11 year olds are emotionally fragile enough that you shouldn't intentionally try to complicate things for them. It sounds like you're wanting to do this with complete disregard to social adaptation, and instead trying the gay "shock and awe" campaign.
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Some of those 10 and 11 year olds have gay parents, or gay relatives, or friends with gay parents. They see gay people every day. It is not going to scar them.
 
Well, then that is a burden they have to bear. I don't think that cross should be placed on the "average" child.
 
sweEt Mauritius said:
May I ask why not? If fifth graders can't talk about same-sex marriage, then should they not speak about opposite-sex marriage either? What's inappropriate about talking about the love and commitment of two people?
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My grandaughters don't know about homosexuality yet. And, their favorite uncle is a very successful and happy gay man with a best friend. They love him and will accept his being gay when its appropriate.

I don't know if you have children in elementary and middle school.. but they don't need to be bombarded with too much information about other life styles.
 
I don't think that 10 and 11-year olds understand adult relationships, period.

What would be age-appropriate topics? Bullying, the importance of being honest, the lifelong value of good nutrition and exercise....
 
nota bene said:
I don't think that 10 and 11-year olds understand adult relationships, period.

What would be age-appropriate topics? Bullying, the importance of being honest, the lifelong value of good nutrition and exercise....
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Exactly and they shouldn't be exposed to adult problems or adult issues or R rate films.
 
Unfortunately, too many kids are exposed to way too much anyway. The way a 10 or 11-year old thinks and perceives the world is different from the way adults do.
 
nota bene said:
Unfortunately, too many kids are exposed to way too much anyway. The way a 10 or 11-year old thinks and perceives the world is different from the way adults do.
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I am in complete agreement.. But there are parents who just don't get it.
 
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