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Hullo one and all from the desert!
The land of Senate Bill 1070 Tent City Pink underwear &
a Lady Governor that pulled us out of a hole dug by another 'Lady' Governor
 

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Hullo one and all from the desert!
The land of Senate Bill 1070 Tent City Pink underwear &
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Hi....
 

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Whew that was a close one
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Someone managed to get a hi in before I was voted off the Island ;)
Actually TiredOfLife it was one of your posts that swayed me to join :p
 

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Whew that was a close one
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Someone managed to get a hi in before I was voted off the Island ;)
Actually TiredOfLife it was one of your posts that swayed me to join :p
I see. Which one, and what was your opinion? Please don't hold back, I hate PC.
 

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I'm interested in the alternative beliefs. Because for some reason, our country has gotten away from the Constitution, and is now all about SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE. I am very disgusted with Red/Blue, Dem/Rep, Lib/Con. Lets get back to the basics, what we were founded on, and get this country back on track. Comments?:shock:
 

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Whew that was a close one
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Someone managed to get a hi in before I was voted off the Island ;)
Actually TiredOfLife it was one of your posts that swayed me to join :p

Well that's certainly understandable, ToL is usually so upbeat and life affirming, he just draws people to him. Why are you concerned about being voted off?
 

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It was on the subject of that Ben Ghazi guy
I've been round a half century and one part of me is amazed at what the One has been able to get away with
but the other side of me has lived through the 60's to today and understands how all of this has been:
a long time coming

hah as for PC my guess is I'll be roundly chastised, ostracized and booted before you can say:
He failed sensitivity training...
 

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I'm interested in the alternative believes. Because for some reason, our country has gotten away from the Constitution, and is now all about SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE. I am very disgusted with Red/Blue, Dem/Rep, Lib/Con. Lets get back to the basics, what we were founded on, and get this country back on track. Comments?:shock:
What it was founded on you don't want to know. Start with, the Founders hated and feared Democracy. It's why we are a Republic instead.
 

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It was on the subject of that Ben Ghazi guy
I've been round a half century and one part of me is amazed at what the One has been able to get away with
but the other side of me has lived through the 60's to today and understands how all of this has been:
a long time coming

hah as for PC my guess is I'll be roundly chastised, ostracized and booted before you can say:
He failed sensitivity training...
Did you somehow miss the first Teflon President, Frick and Frack, Lucy Mercer, Watergate, and the like? That's a pretty fair list BTW, two and two.
 

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hah how about not where we've been
or where we are
but what happens when the world's only remaining military Superpower goes bankrupt? ;)
 

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hah how about not where we've been
or where we are
but what happens when the world's only remaining military Superpower goes bankrupt? ;)
Fewer weapons, smaller wars.
 

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Well Tired I did vote for Ronnie Raygun twice and really Really REALLY believed we were in danger of being vaporized in a pre-emptive nooclear strike by them evil empire commie dudes but it was the 80's and Nancy had said no but we all were making tons of money and there was an oil glut...
 

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Well Tired I did vote for Ronnie Raygun twice and really Really REALLY believed we were in danger of being vaporized in a pre-emptive nooclear strike by them evil empire commie dudes but it was the 80's and Nancy had said no but we all were making tons of money and there was an oil glut...
I worked for the dark lords of the MIC. We all have our sins to bear.
 

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hah how about not where we've been
or where we are
but what happens when the world's only remaining military Superpower goes bankrupt? ;)

Its devastating to think about. And you're right, it's not IF... it is WHEN. And we will certainly collapse. We may have the nukes, but I don't think most other countries take us serious much anymore. Especially not due to the fact that China owns us in a sense.

The U.S. deficit with China jumped 15.6 percent to $27.9 billion in May, close to the all-time monthly high set last November. So far this year, the U.S. deficit with China, the largest with any country, is running 3 percent higher than last year.
 

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I'm interested in the alternative beliefs. Because for some reason, our country has gotten away from the Constitution, and is now all about SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE. I am very disgusted with Red/Blue, Dem/Rep, Lib/Con. Lets get back to the basics, what we were founded on, and get this country back on track. Comments?:shock:

YA! Bring back federalist/anti-federalists!
 

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Ama--gi I was debating this with my 25 year old son who is starting his 3rd year of law school this month.
He made a compelling argument that we can keep this travesty going on far longer than anyone can imagine.
Rome wasn't built (nor did it burn?) in a day and the good old USA might take quite some time to fade into the history books eh?
 

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What it was founded on you don't want to know. Start with, the Founders hated and feared Democracy. It's why we are a Republic instead.

Democracy, yes. but more than that, Monarchy. In a republic, offices are appointed rather than inherited, and aren't de jure the private property of the individuals who hold them. Today, a common definition of a 'republic' is a government where the head of state is NOT a Monarch. There will always be problems, the bigger the government. Benjamin Franklin said it well: Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
 

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So Ama--gi what is it that we see today in our country? A ruling class that is gaining favor from the underclass and an ever growing portion of the middle class through the use of entitlements and a dying capitalist class that foolishly thinks it can survive the onslaught of socialism?
 
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