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San Francisco Will pay Police Officers Highest Entry-Level Salary In Bay Area SF Never Defunded The Police

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The city just passed the employment agreement with the police union. It passed 10 for 1 against.

They are paying new officers the highest entry level salary in the Bay Area.

So much for the lie that San Francisco has defunded the police.

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Liberal7360 said:
The city just passed the employment agreement with the police union. It passed 10 for 1 against.

They are paying new officers the highest entry level salary in the Bay Area.

So much for the lie that San Francisco has defunded the police.

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Current (or future) refunding or increasing the funding for SF police doesn’t mean that past defunding or decreasing the funding of SF police didn’t occur.

nypost.com

Behind London Breed’s stunning ‘defund the police’ turnaround in San Francisco

San Francisco Mayor London Breed reversed her decision to defund the city’s police department, announcing that she was making a request to the city’s Board of Supervisors for more money for t…
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www.foxnews.com

San Francisco supervisor Hillary Ronen begs for more police in her district after voting to defund in 2020

San Francisco district supervisor Hillary Ronen begged city officials to increase police presence in the Mission District, three years after she voted to defund the police.
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Here in Los Angeles, the big shots are begging retired officers to return.

The LAPD needs about 1,000 more officers.

But since the defund the cops movement, it is not easy to get qualified officers.

Some do not want to be falsely accused of abuse.

Los Angeles -- like all American cities -- is fast a-changing, for the worse.

It needs more cops to deal with the outrageous amount of violent crime.
 
TheParser said:
Here in Los Angeles, the big shots are begging retired officers to return.

The LAPD needs about 1,000 more officers.

But since the defund the cops movement, it is not easy to get qualified officers.

Some do not want to be falsely accused of abuse.

Los Angeles -- like all American cities -- is fast a-changing, for the worse.

It needs more cops to deal with the outrageous amount of violent crime.
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That's certainly a concern, but a part of the problem is police unions not wanting accountability for abuse either. Do you think a job with the kind of responsibility this one does, should be left unchecked with its employees having close to zero accountability if the union had its say? Raising the salaries at least makes it a better value proposition for those interested, because a job with the many risks this one has makes it a harder sell with increased scrutiny and danger to oneself.
 
Defund the police was meant to create outreach officers to handle non-criminal calls.

The shortage in police is from the Covid lockdowns where many retired and fewer returned to duty. Also, we pay them crap and expect too much so those places where outreach officers were not implemented, they don't see the benefit.

Just like with teachers, doctors, and a host of other occupations that serve our country, but pay squat. We live in a country that pays athletes and entertainers more than our service members. That's where our values are.
 
They have to pay the most because it cost the most to live there. But money isn't the big issue. Cops want to be productive & effective, without city prosecutors and officials 100% behind them they're going to end up doing a substandard job of which they will be blamed for.
 
dmpi said:
They have to pay the most because it cost the most to live there. But money isn't the big issue. Cops want to be productive & effective, without city prosecutors and officials 100% behind them they're going to end up doing a substandard job of which they will be blamed for.
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There always will be issues between the "brass" and politicians. Beat cops who can make a difference in the lives of the people they serve are the happiest with their jobs.

Did you know cops are discouraged from watching/consuming news?
 
JRTurner said:
There always will be issues between the "brass" and politicians. Beat cops who can make a difference in the lives of the people they serve are the happiest with their jobs.

Did you know cops are discouraged from watching/consuming news?
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We are?

The only rule I know of is no news programs on the radio, TV, or internet inside the station.
 
Luce said:
We are?

The only rule I know of is no news programs on the radio, TV, or internet inside the station.
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Yes, discouraged doesn't mean banned :) The purpose of the discouragement is that cops won't internalize all the negative job performance reviews the media conducts--especially with how often they get it wrong.
 
Realistically, we have to pay police more and massively ramp up accountability and fix whatever the hell is wrong with the overall culture that leads to so much unjustified violence against citizens. It's already hard enough to attract officers. Well, pay goes a long way to greasing wheels, especially if you're also talking about cleaning up messes.

And that's just the violence we know about. You should be chilled while pondering what happened before everyone could record video at the drop of a hat.

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And really, we're going to have to pay more for a lot of things if we want a better, safer, less violent society. All those root causes will cost $$ to fix.

We all need to pay more in taxes, and we need to get there in staggered raises to avoid economic shocks. I'm talking... back to levels existing when Reagan walked into office.

But the average American voter is basically a petulant child who just has to have the newest smartphone, etc., and doesn't want to pay anything to make anything better for anyone but just themselves.
 
JRTurner said:
Yes, discouraged doesn't mean banned :) The purpose of the discouragement is that cops won't internalize all the negative job performance reviews the media conducts--especially with how often they get it wrong.
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Nope, sorry, never heard of it.
 
Luce said:
Nope, sorry, never heard of it.
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Maybe it's a newer thing? It's part of the criminal justice curriculum today. I think it was in my first term. I can check back when I have more time. I recall it because I was surprised by that, but when I read more about why, it made sense to me :)
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
I have no problem with police anywhere.. I had 2 cousins who were cops. (both retired now)... But the blue wall of silence has to stop... Good cops protecting bad cops is a big problem...
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The Blue Wall IS the problem. That's how bad cops get protected.
 
Luce said:
Music at low volume is allowed. That's it.
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If you have access to a recruitment officer or someone working with the academy, ask them about this. I'm wondering if it's a new thing, considering the expansion of news/media in the last decade. Very curious! I think it was in the chapter under maintaining your mental health in a high-stress job.
 
Luce said:
No, it's an anti-distraction thing.
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Whatever the purpose, they are discouraging watching news. I didn't read it as no TV's, no radio's, no internet. Because you said, "The only rule I know of is no news programs on the radio, TV, or internet inside the station."
 
ElChupacabra said:
That's certainly a concern, but a part of the problem is police unions not wanting accountability for abuse either. Do you think a job with the kind of responsibility this one does, should be left unchecked with its employees having close to zero accountability if the union had its say? Raising the salaries at least makes it a better value proposition for those interested, because a job with the many risks this one has makes it a harder sell with increased scrutiny and danger to oneself.
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A few years ago LA’s police union drew the line on behavior they would not defend - necrophilia. The cop caught fondling the breasts of a dead suspect would not be defended. Made us all feel much safer.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
I have no problem with police anywhere.. I had 2 cousins who were cops. (both retired now)... But the blue wall of silence has to stop... Good cops protecting bad cops is a big problem...
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Yep, I have cops in the family as well. There should be an open discussion on accountability instead of it being a binary option which some seem to think it is. To your point, the problem is making headway within the officers themselves, because the blue wall of silence only serves to allow for bad behavior to go unaccounted.
 
Liberal7360 said:
The city just passed the employment agreement with the police union. It passed 10 for 1 against.

They are paying new officers the highest entry level salary in the Bay Area.

So much for the lie that San Francisco has defunded the police.

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That's going to make AOC shit her jeans. She just blew her stack over NYC upping the pay for the NYPD.
 
Not having police would result in rule by local warlords, as has been the case in multiple destabilized countries. Most people on the left don't want this. I'm sure that faux paints the proposal as something that all non-Republicans want, but just like much of what you see on faux, it's not true.
 
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