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Same-Sex Couple Claim ‘Mental Rape’ And Will Get $135,000 After Sweet Cakes By Meliss

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It didn't help.

:( well, that's unfortunate, but there's no helping those who are unable or unwilling to process new information.
 
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My point stands... Christian hypocrosy and hatred is the real issue in this case.

That's amazing. I had no idea you were a mind-reader. Can you tell the motivations of people half a planet away from you au natural, or do you need a giant metal sphere, a'la Charles Xavier?
 
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there's no helping those who are unable or unwilling to process new information.

which is why I haven't pointed out who has been making the argument you think no one is making.
 
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Where does the First Amendment state that the rights affirmed therein only apply when one is not engaging in commerce? Please quote the exact text that allows this.

Please quote the exact text of the First Amendment that says you have the right to freedom of association. Pretty sure that isn't one of the five in that Amendment. That right was extended via a Court decision, the same as other rights or restrictions have been covered.
 
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Oh... I get it...When Shait happens. Rather than dealing with it...they rather ask for Pink Unicorn in a Tutu for help.. Can you say Wack job?

As a 'very conservative' poster, I would AT LEAST' expect some respect for those of faith. The fact you don't screams otherwise.
 
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which is why I haven't pointed out who has been making the argument you think no one is making.

He was responding to this post here. Please point out where that post made or even addressed the argument that the abuse of Christians is greater than the historical persecution of gays.
 
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He was responding to this post here. Please point out where that post made or even addressed the argument that the abuse of Christians is greater than the historical persecution of gays.

I would but as a poster wisely said:
there's no helping those who are unable or unwilling to process new information.

And you lied about the post rocket was responding to. He was responding to your post (below)
Disgusting - but sadly all-too common.


Now that we've created a strong financial incentive, expect targeting of Christian businesses in the future.
 
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That's amazing. I had no idea you were a mind-reader. Can you tell the motivations of people half a planet away from you au natural, or do you need a giant metal sphere, a'la Charles Xavier?
It's funny when non-believers try to tell believers exactly what it is they're supposed to believe
 
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And you lied about the post rocket was responding to

:doh: see post #3? It's on the cited page for you.

But feel free, again, to point out where that post made or even addressed the argument that the abuse of Christians is greater than the historical persecution of gays.

Because if you can't, then his response remains a strawman.


Blemonds said:
It's funny when non-believers try to tell believers exactly what it is they're supposed to believe

True. Certainly it shows a lack of intellectual complexity, the inability to picture a belief system different than your own.
 
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Please quote the exact text of the First Amendment that says you have the right to freedom of association. Pretty sure that isn't one of the five in that Amendment. That right was extended via a Court decision, the same as other rights or restrictions have been covered.

It's not explicitly stated, but it has always been held to be strongly implied by the freedoms of assembly, expression, and religion that are explicitly stated, and backed up by the Ninth Amendment. It's a recognized right, and with all the other rights affirmed in the Constitution, there is no text anywhere that suggests any power on the part of government to compel anyone to give up those rights as a condition of being allowed to make a living.

The Constitution is solidly on my side, in this debate, and it is solidly against yours.
 
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As a 'very conservative' poster, I would AT LEAST' expect some respect for those of faith. The fact you don't screams otherwise.

Really??? you are telling me... If someone comes to you and says...I chose to reject the ideal of Planetary motions, but rather believe that Gravity is not that objects of different mass exerting forces proportional to mass and inverse square law to their distance, but rather, there are these invisible gnomes who shot these invisible wires at objects and hold things down.

Furthermore The world is resting on the backs of four elephants who, in turn, stand upon the back of a giant, space-faring turtle...

And your natural reaction would be ...Oh I understand and respect your personal belief...Or would you walk away, laughing your ass off thinking this guy is pure and total nut job?!


It doesn't matter what is your political belief...If you see a bullShait...call it a bullshait! don't be shy that you my offend people! That is a conservative way!


Diving Mullah
 
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Really??? you are telling me... If someone comes to you and says...I chose to reject the ideal of Planetary motions, but rather believe that Gravity is not that objects of different mass exerting forces proportional to mass and inverse square law to their distance, but rather, there are these invisible gnomes who shot these invisible wires at objects and hold things down.

Furthermore The world is resting on the backs of four elephants who, in turn, stand upon the back of a giant, space-faring turtle...

And your natural reaction would be ...Oh I understand and respect your personal belief...Or would you walk away, laughing your ass off thinking this guy is pure and total nut job?!


It doesn't matter what is your political belief...If you see a bullShait...call it a bullshait! don't be shy that you my offend people! That is a conservative way!


Diving Mullah

Well since Christians believe none of that, what was your point?
 
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I suppose if you choose to completely abandon the argument and ignore the vitriol and hatred and sure, go ahead and toss in judgement and hypocrisy from the other side and yourself to boot...sure...do that little victory dance with the pirouette and the fist pump thing at the end.

You can blow it off if you like and I am in no way demeaning all Christians... just the fake Christians that preach love and peace but practice hate.
 
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Where does the First Amendment state that the rights affirmed therein only apply when one is not engaging in commerce? Please quote the exact text that allows this.

I have a semblence of a valid argument because I at least can make a connection between the government license and teh business owner and you can't. Where does it state that you have the right to freedom of association in the 1st Amendment? Anything? As of now you have nothing...
 
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That's amazing. I had no idea you were a mind-reader. Can you tell the motivations of people half a planet away from you au natural, or do you need a giant metal sphere, a'la Charles Xavier?

What do you mean... they are clear as day as evidenced in the news and on this forum. Preach peace... Practice hate.
 
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You can blow it off if you like and I am in no way demeaning all Christians... just the fake Christians that preach love and peace but practice hate.

Was Christ practicing hatred when he told the prostitute to go forth and sin no more?
 
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Was Christ practicing hatred when he told the prostitute to go forth and sin no more?

By modern wrong-wing standards, yes, he most certainly was. What an intolerant bigot he was, to think that one should refrain from sin.
 
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Did Jesus ever refuse food to someone?
It is such an honest direct and straightforward question. Was Jesus practicing hatred when he told the prostitute to go forth and sin no more?
 
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It is such an honest direct and straightforward question. Was Jesus practicing hatred when he told the prostitute to go forth and sin no more?

I don't pretend to be an expert on christianity, so I can't say

However, the issue isn't about the bakers telling the couple to "sin no more". The issue is about them refusing to provide them with food.

So, did Jesus ever refuse to provide food for anyone?
 
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I don't pretend to be an expert on christianity, so I can't say

However, the issue isn't about the bakers telling the couple to "sin no more". The issue is about them refusing to provide them with food.

So, did Jesus ever refuse to provide food for anyone?

You chose to infuse yourself into the conversation and you are attempting to do what you always do...try to divert it. I asked a direct honest and straightforward question of Bohdi. Since you have decided you want to play...be my guest...play as well. Christ told the prostitute go forth and sin no more. Was his declaration of her behavior as sinful and his direction that she 'sin no more' an expression of hatred. Yes or no?
 
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It's not explicitly stated, but it has always been held to be strongly implied by the freedoms of assembly, expression, and religion that are explicitly stated, and backed up by the Ninth Amendment. It's a recognized right, and with all the other rights affirmed in the Constitution, there is no text anywhere that suggests any power on the part of government to compel anyone to give up those rights as a condition of being allowed to make a living.

The Constitution is solidly on my side, in this debate, and it is solidly against yours.

No it isn't. And you demanded someone show you exact text against something that you can't even show as a right written in exact text.

The right to access to public accommodations has been confirmed by the SCOTUS, just as that of association has been. Neither is guaranteed by the Constitution.
 
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Was Christ practicing hatred when he told the prostitute to go forth and sin no more?

Which has what to do with same sex marriage/relationships? You don't know that Christ would have said such things to gay people, but are just assuming. Plus, do you think that Jesus would have rejected the prostitute, refused to help her, if later on he found her sinning?
 
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Which has what to do with same sex marriage/relationships? You don't know that Christ would have said such things to gay people, but are just assuming. Plus, do you think that Jesus would have rejected the prostitute, refused to help her, if later on he found her sinning?
it is such a direct, honest, and straightforward question. Why is it that none of you can bring yourself to answer it?
Christ clearly showed love. He also told her to go forth...and sin no more. Was Christ expressing hatred? Yes or no?
 
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