RNC to Spend $10 Million to Reach Minorities......

[roughdraft274]

I think this is a good move on their part.

Now lets see if by next election the Republicans have actually learned a lesson and don't try to limit minority votes by by trying to suppress early voting in minority areas and other shenanigans.

 

[Muddy Creek]

I do think the Republican party is too elitist. As evidenced by this story. I dont think talking about the current polocies to minorities will help. The Republicans have to change first, then get out the word.

Agreed. And after 35 plus years of preaching and playing only to the upper 1%, they have a long road ahead of them of convincing 99% of Americans they care about this nation and our economic strength at all.

 

[Muddy Creek]

I think this is a good move on their part.

Now lets see if by next election the Republicans have actually learned a lesson and don't try to limit minority votes by by trying to suppress early voting in minority areas and other shenanigans.

A good move but too little too late. They have almost 40 years of voting against everyone but the upper 1% and almost 40 years of bankrupting our economy with elitists voodoo economics. Change won't happen over night and believing the republican party cares about the other 99% of Americans will take decades of legislation proving it.

 

[Gardener]

No, the same policies that allowed the middle class to create a high standard of living for themselves and achieve upward mobility. As opposed to democrat policies which make everyone equally poor and dependent on govt.

Ah, so in other words -- a complete fantasy that stands in stark contrast to reality.

 

[MMC]

What I read that really concerned me was how he said he wanted to limit the number of debates in the GOP primary.

We had 23 for the past election, he suggests 7 or 8, and I'm guessing we'll wind up with 4.

Even though the only reason why I had any respect for the Republican Party during the 2012 election was that they were having those debates in the first place - unlike the Democrats, who just sat by their man and didn't even run a token challenger just to keep Obama honest.

Especially on issues like the drug war and drone strikes.

He also said that he wants the RNC to pick the journalists who moderates the GOP primary debates and which networks they get aired on. Which means he wants to bring even MORE theater to political theater rather than actual politics.

And this is a danger to conservative populists who are critics of establishment politicians, as establishment Republicans have such a tight grip on the GOP primary anyways.

And then he said that the GOP primary distracted from the Republican's Party main goal of defeating Obama. A political party shouldn't have as its agenda to defeat the other guy no matter what. Rather, it should be to elect someone that American people find of more worth to be President than the other party.

And it's also ludicrous to make those particular changes based on what happened in an election year when they were challenging an incumbent President considering how much Americans prefer incumbent politicians. Instead, they should wait for the 2016 election and see how they do then when both the Republicans and the Democrats have to honestly (well, as close as they can, anyways) compete for the White House.

If you ask me, that's the real story here. This stuff about spending money to reach minorities is all smoke and mirrors, and there are better reforms for the primary - such as randomizing every election year the order in which blocks of states have their primary - that would be more of an improvement.

Actually, its not smoke and mirrors as today Priebus formally Endorsed Immigration Reform.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican National Committee formally endorsed immigration reform on Monday and outlined plans for a $10 million outreach to minority groups — gay voters among them — as part of a strategy to make the GOP more "welcoming and inclusive" for voters who overwhelmingly supported Democrats in 2012.

In a report released Monday, the RNC says that the way the party communicates its principles isn't resonating widely enough and that focus groups perceive the party as "narrow minded," ''out of touch" and "stuffy old men."

"The perception that we're the party of the rich unfortunately continues to grow," Reince Priebus, the RNC chair, said in a Monday morning speech.

To broaden its appeal, the party must reach out to minority voters and others, according to one recommendation in the report: "We must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform. If we do not, our party's appeal will continue to shrink," it said.

The RNC will also push for a tone of "tolerance and respect" in the immigration debate, create "senior level advisory councils" focused on minority groups, and establish "swearing in citizenship teams" to connect with new voters immediately after swearing-in ceremonies.

"We need to go to communities where Republicans do not normally go to listen and make our case," the report says. "We need to campaign among Hispanic, black, Asian and gay Americans and demonstrate that we care about them, too."
.....snip!


GOP roadmap calls for immigration reform

 

[Muddy Creek]

Hows that working out in those 30 Republican states? 5 away from 2/3rds of the Country.

Not so good. Voters' remorse in everyone.

Buyer’s Remorse in Tea Party Florida | Say It Ain't So Already

Some in Tea Party cite ‘buyer’s remorse’ with SC Gov. Haley | Gov. Haley Watch | The State

Rep. Van Hollen on the tea party: Voters have buyer’s remorse | The Raw Story

Buyer's Remorse

What's It Like to Wake Up From a Tea Party Binge? Just Ask Florida! | Mother Jones

Don't count on the born again evangelical movement to continue to vote on wedge issues anymore.

Evangelicals who have left the right « The Immanent Frame

But recent trends point to another political transformation within this community—to those evangelicals who have left the right, moving toward an anti-militarist, anti-consumerist focus on poverty relief, environmental protection, and immigration reform, and on coalition-building and more issue-by-issue policy assessment (more Democrat on environment, for instance, and more Republican on abortion). While the religious right remains robust, in 2005 Christianity Today lambasted evangelicals for conflating the gospel with American or Republican policy, writing, “George W. Bush is not Lord… The American flag is not the Cross. The Pledge of Allegiance is not the Creed. ‘God Bless America’ is not Doxology.” In 2006, the Evangelical Environmental Network/Call to Action, launched its “What would Jesus drive?” campaign for greater fuel efficiency. In 2007, the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) issued its “Evangelical Declaration against Torture.” Since 2009, the NAE has repeatedly protested against Republican budget cuts for the needy, for instance writing, “this is the wrong place to cut.”

These “new evangelicals,” as Richard Cizik, head of The New Evangelical Partnership for the Common Good, calls them, are neither small in number nor elite. By 2004, devout Christians whose activism differs from that of the religious right came to 24 percent of the US population. Subtract Catholics, and we find that 19 percent or so of devout Protestants do not identify as religious right.

Extremism by the right wing is over. No one wants their anti-American worker and anti-American family values anymore.

 

[Tigger]

No not really.....also hiring some Hispanic and Black Republicans to go do grassroots movements in places like Chicago, and California needs to be done. Time to start pointing out those failures of theirs and with their Keynesian Economics. Chicago alone for over 75 years has let the Democrats steal their money, drive the state into the ground, ignore the Constitution. All the while living high on the hog with the peoples money. Jesse Jackson and clan, and a host of others have bilked and milked the money from these people. While driving them to become more Dependent on Government. While letting their neighborhoods and schools all fall apart. While creating the highest taxed places in the country. All so that the Democrat can lives in STYLE and rub elbows with the Hollywood Elite. These people have become Zombies and all these neighborhoods need to be shook up.

Not shaken down like the Democrats do. People can be show why their lives will get better with running these scumbags out of power and if possible out of town.

Then ya have a host of them that run and live in a house in another state.

MMC, and what do you expect to get out of that? Another 1-2% of these people changing their minds? It's not worth it. I understand it's a slightly different situation, but you could spend $100,000,000 here in Massachusetts (where I live) and you're not going to see even one more Republican elected. These people are not capable of changing their way of thinking any more than I am. Let it go. They're beyond being saved.

 

[Muddy Creek]

Actually, its not smoke and mirrors as today Priebus formally Endorsed Immigration Reform.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican National Committee formally endorsed immigration reform on Monday and outlined plans for a $10 million outreach to minority groups — gay voters among them — as part of a strategy to make the GOP more "welcoming and inclusive" for voters who overwhelmingly supported Democrats in 2012.

In a report released Monday, the RNC says that the way the party communicates its principles isn't resonating widely enough and that focus groups perceive the party as "narrow minded," ''out of touch" and "stuffy old men."

"The perception that we're the party of the rich unfortunately continues to grow," Reince Priebus, the RNC chair, said in a Monday morning speech.

To broaden its appeal, the party must reach out to minority voters and others, according to one recommendation in the report: "We must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform. If we do not, our party's appeal will continue to shrink," it said.

The RNC will also push for a tone of "tolerance and respect" in the immigration debate, create "senior level advisory councils" focused on minority groups, and establish "swearing in citizenship teams" to connect with new voters immediately after swearing-in ceremonies.

"We need to go to communities where Republicans do not normally go to listen and make our case," the report says. "We need to campaign among Hispanic, black, Asian and gay Americans and demonstrate that we care about them, too."
.....snip!


GOP roadmap calls for immigration reform

The RNC chair does not write nor vote against laws that allow immigration reform to occur. the Congressional government and every candidate for President since 2008 has spit on immigration reform to keep their base of old white guys happy.

 

[jonny5]

Ah, so in other words -- a complete fantasy that stands in stark contrast to reality.

I guess you dont want to have a discussion. Move along.

 

[winston53660]

It would be better spent weeding the Moderates and other undesirable elements out of the party so that they can draw true Conservatives back into the fold.

Sounds like a recipe for the death of the party to me. There are far more moderates than hardcores.

 

[Muddy Creek]

No not really.....also hiring some Hispanic and Black Republicans to go do grassroots movements in places like Chicago, and California needs to be done. Time to start pointing out those failures of theirs and with their Keynesian Economics. Chicago alone for over 75 years has let the Democrats steal their money, drive the state into the ground, ignore the Constitution. All the while living high on the hog with the peoples money. Jesse Jackson and clan, and a host of others have bilked and milked the money from these people. While driving them to become more Dependent on Government. While letting their neighborhoods and schools all fall apart. While creating the highest taxed places in the country. All so that the Democrat can lives in STYLE and rub elbows with the Hollywood Elite. These people have become Zombies and all these neighborhoods need to be shook up.

Not shaken down like the Democrats do. People can be show why their lives will get better with running these scumbags out of power and if possible out of town.

Then ya have a host of them that run and live in a house in another state.

That's a mouthful of right wing pundit misinformation. How about some facts?

 

[Tigger]

Sounds like a recipe for the death of the party to me. There are far more moderates than hardcores.

Then the Party and the Nation are dead, as I've been suggesting for a while. We just don't know it yet. Conservatism Is/Was the only hope to save this country. If it's so weak that it cannot carry a single Party, nevermind the nation; then we're doomed.

 

[Muddy Creek]

Yeah Right, those with the money can't help. :roll: Did the Demo-Underground gives ya those old talking points. (rhetorical question) :lol:

Talking points?

Senate Republicans vote to kill Obama's jobs bill - BusinessWeek

Senate Republicans have voted to kill the White House jobs bill despite weeks of campaign-style barnstorming by President Barack Obama across the country.

Forty-six Republicans joined with two Democrats to filibuster the $447 billion plan.

That vote was not final. The roll call was kept open Tuesday night to allow Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H. to vote. But it would have taken 60 votes in the 100-member Senate to keep the legislation alive.

The plan would have included Social Security payroll tax cuts for workers and businesses and other tax relief totaling about $270 billion. There also was to be $175 billion in new spending on roads, school repairs and other infrastructure -- as well as jobless aid and help to local governments to avoid layoffs of teachers, firefighters and police officers.

Republicans opposed the measure over its spending to stimulate the economy and its tax surcharge on millionaires.

Votes against raising taxes on the rich trumps jobs for Americans.

Republican Record on Shipping American Jobs Overseas | The Gavel

Since taking control of the House in 2011, Republicans have voted:

For the GOP Job Outsourcers’ Bill of Rights that makes it easier for corporations to send American jobs overseas and weakens the rights of middle class workers – allowing employers to relocate their operations to punish employees for exercising their rights to organize, demand better benefits and safer working conditions, and ensure a full day’s pay for an honest day’s work. [Vote 711, 9/15/11, AFL-CIO]

Against the Democratic budget that rewards companies that choose to invest in or bring back jobs to America with a 20 percent tax credit, eliminates tax advantages for companies moving jobs overseas, as proposed by President Obama, and closes loopholes that allow businesses to avoid taxes by sheltering earnings in foreign tax havens. [Vote 150, 3/29/12]

Against considering the Bring Jobs Home Act – the President’s proposal to reward companies that choose to invest in or bring back jobs to America with a 20 percent tax credit, and to eliminate tax advantages for companies moving jobs overseas. [The Record, Vote 456, 7/10/12]

Against stopping businesses that outsource American jobs from receiving a 20 percent business tax deduction. [Times Republican, Vote 176, 4/19/12]

Against stopping companies that ship jobs overseas from taking advantage of the repeal of the medical device tax. [Vote 360, 6/7/12]

Against ending government contracts that reward corporations that ship American jobs overseas. [Release, Vote 19, 1/25/11]

Against considering the U.S. Call Center Worker and Consumer Protection Act to help revitalize a U.S. call center industry that has lost over 500,000 jobs just in the past six years. The measure includes incentives to reduce outsourcing by requiring call centers to notify the Secretary of Labor at least 120 days before relocating outside of the U.S., and giving preference in contracts to employers who keep their call centers at home. [Paramus Post, Vote 381, 6/19/12]

Against a measure that places a priority on keeping jobs in America, protecting the authority of the National Labor Relations Board to order an employer to maintain or restore jobs in the U.S. that would otherwise be outsourced to a foreign country. [Vote 710, 9/15/11]

Against a measure to discourage outsourcing by denying the underlying bill’s pro-corporation election rules for companies that ship American jobs overseas and leveling the playing field for workers in union elections. [Vote 868, 11/30/11]

Against an effort to require work performed under intelligence contracts be first provided to U.S. companies and workers, and not outsourced to foreign-owned companies. [Release, Vote 300, 5/31/12]

Against a measure to encourage that oil and gas leases be awarded to companies that avoid outsourcing American jobs and that use U.S.-made materials. [Release, Vote 409, 6/21/12]

Against a measure to ensure that mining companies that receive American permits for mineral exploration not outsource American jobs and make a good faith effort to purchase American mining equipment. [Release, Vote 467, 7/12/12]

Against a measure to help close overseas tax havens by giving the Treasury Department greater powers to investigate offshore tax abuses and crack down on offenders and banks that aid them, which could reduce the deficit by as much as nearly $1 billion. [Vote 344, 6/6/12]

2001-2010

From 2007-2010, Republicans voted eleven times to:

Protect tax breaks for corporations that ship American jobs overseas.

Protect off-shore tax havens for corporations and the wealthiest Americans.

Protect tax loopholes for CEOs’ deferred compensation paid by off-shore companies, foreign tax haven corporations dodging U.S. taxes, and Americans who renounce their citizenship.

These tax breaks cost American taxpayers over $60 billion

Under President Bush, Republicans voted 8 times to expand tax breaks for outsourcing and protect offshore tax havens. The Republicans:

Enacted legislation to provide $42 billion in tax breaks for offshore operations of U.S. corporations, encouraging the shipping of U.S. jobs overseas.

Voted to protect tax shelters for corporations relocating overseas to avoid paying taxes.

Voted to protect government contracts for these corporate expatriates.

Voted against help for workers whose jobs were outsourced and against even a study on outsourcing of U.S. jobs.

Republicans voting FOR higher unemployment in the US and than REFUSE to vote for extending unemployment claims.

RNC: Voters see GOP as

The report is long on lists of ailments, but shorter on specific fixes. There are recommendations for better outreach and more focused efforts, but little discussion about the policies and specifics that the party would sell while reaching out to different types of voters.

Beyond immigration, it barely touches on policy. That was by design, according to the report, because it’s not the RNC’s purview. Still, policy is no small part of the GOP’s internal debate now, which underscores the limitations of what a party committee can do.

For instance, there are no references to abortion or Planned Parenthood — or any of the issues that were at the heart of the battle for female voters last year. The report says the GOP lost the “war on women” messaging but doesn’t make clear how the party should be on offense going forward.

Read more: RNC: Voters see GOP as

I doubt the republican party could dig itself out of this grave it's created for two more decades

 

[Muddy Creek]

Then the Party and the Nation are dead, as I've been suggesting for a while. We just don't know it yet. Conservatism Is/Was the only hope to save this country. If it's so weak that it cannot carry a single Party, nevermind the nation; then we're doomed.

Trickle down economics FAILED this nation since Reagan. THAT'S the reason the party is dead. The republicans keep pushing failed policies which help only the rich.

 

[winston53660]

Then the Party and the Nation are dead, as I've been suggesting for a while. We just don't know it yet. Conservatism Is/Was the only hope to save this country. If it's so weak that it cannot carry a single Party, nevermind the nation; then we're doomed.

I think we should start sacrificing virgins again to appeal the gods.

 

[Tigger]

Trickle down economics FAILED this nation since Reagan. THAT'S the reason the party is dead. The republicans keep pushing failed policies which help only the rich.

Reagan was not a Conservative either, MC. There hasn't been a Conservative in the White House since prior to the Civil War. Republican, Democrat, etc.... makes no difference to me. It's all about Conservatism versus Liberalism.

 

[Muddy Creek]

MMC, and what do you expect to get out of that? Another 1-2% of these people changing their minds? It's not worth it. I understand it's a slightly different situation, but you could spend $100,000,000 here in Massachusetts (where I live) and you're not going to see even one more Republican elected. These people are not capable of changing their way of thinking any more than I am. Let it go. They're beyond being saved.

I think the people of MA SAW what Brown did in the Senate when he replaced Kennedy. I think MA sees what the nation sees and that the trickle economics of the republican party since Reagan favors ONLY the 1% and you CAN'T have a good economy when fewer than 400 households control the majority of wealth in this nation and GET the majority of welfare. MA is FAR more educated than the good old boy south that deals with emotions to vote and not economic facts.

 

[Tigger]

I think we should start sacrificing virgins again to appeal the gods.

Nah. Though I'm all for sacrificing as many Moderates and Liberals as we can get our hands on.

 

[Gardener]

I guess you dont want to have a discussion. Move along.

By basing my opinions on what has actually happened in this country over the last 40 years instead of just parroting the talking points of radio demagogues?

 

[Tigger]

I think the people of MA SAW what Brown did in the Senate when he replaced Kennedy. I think MA sees what the nation sees and that the trickle economics of the republican party since Reagan favors ONLY the 1% and you CAN'T have a good economy when fewer than 400 households control the majority of wealth in this nation and GET the majority of welfare. MA is FAR more educated than the good old boy south that deals with emotions to vote and not economic facts.

The people of MA were duped when they voted for that loser Brown to begin with. The idea that he was actually going to have ANY Principles was a laugh from the beginning. I tried to tell people that before he was elected. He was simply another Liberal in Pseudo-Conservative clothing.

Again, Reagan was NOT a Conservative. True Conservative economics do not give handouts or tax breaks to ANYONE. Everyone pays the same rate on their New Income.

The education here in MA is a joke. I see these children on a daily basis and I wouldn't hire more of the high school graduates to dig a ditch for me, nevermind do anything that requires actual though, common sense, morality, or values.

 

[Muddy Creek]

Reagan was not a Conservative either, MC. There hasn't been a Conservative in the White House since prior to the Civil War. Republican, Democrat, etc.... makes no difference to me. It's all about Conservatism versus Liberalism.

Sure he was a conservative. He gave more money to corporations than any other. He got rid of atni-trust laws and allowed monopolies to take over mom and pop capitalistic businesses. He gave money to the upper 1% through his Chrysler bailout and he was considered the Father of Conservatism.

Ronald Reagan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Reagan implemented policies based on supply-side economics and advocated a classical liberal and laissez-faire philosophy,[127] seeking to stimulate the economy with large, across-the-board tax cuts.[128][129] He also supported returning the U.S. to some sort of gold standard, and successfully urged Congress to establish the U.S. Gold Commission to study how one could be implemented. Citing the economic theories of Arthur Laffer, Reagan promoted the proposed tax cuts as potentially stimulating the economy enough to expand the tax base, offsetting the revenue loss due to reduced rates of taxation, a theory that entered political discussion as the Laffer curve. Reaganomics was the subject of debate with supporters pointing to improvements in certain key economic indicators as evidence of success, and critics pointing to large increases in federal budget deficits and the national debt. His policy of "peace through strength" (also described as "firm but fair") resulted in a record peacetime defense buildup including a 40% real increase in defense spending between 1981 and 1985.[130]

During Reagan's presidency, federal income tax rates were lowered significantly with the signing of the bipartisan Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981[131] which lowered the top marginal tax bracket from 70% to 50% and the lowest bracket from 14% to 11%, however other tax increases passed by Congress and signed by Reagan, ensured that tax revenues over his two terms were 18.2% of GDP as compared to 18.1% over the 40-year period 1970-2010.[132] Then, in 1982 the Job Training Partnership Act of 1982 was signed into law, initiating one of the nation's first public/private partnerships and a major part of the president's job creation program. Reagan's Assistant Secretary of Labor and Chief of Staff, Al Angrisani, was a primary architect of the bill. The Tax Reform Act of 1986, another bipartisan effort championed by Reagan, further reduced the top rate to 28%, raised the bottom bracket from 11% to 15%, and, cut the number of tax brackets to 4.

Conversely, Congress passed and Reagan signed into law tax increases of some nature in every year from 1981 to 1987 to continue funding such government programs as Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 (TEFRA), Social Security, and the Deficit Reduction Act of 1984 (DEFRA).[133][134] Despite the fact that TEFRA was the "largest peacetime tax increase in American history", Reagan is better known for his tax cuts and lower-taxes philosophy.[134][135][136][137] Real gross domestic product (GDP) growth recovered strongly after the early 1980s recession ended in 1982, and grew during his eight years in office at an annual rate of 3.85% per year.[138] Unemployment peaked at 10.8% monthly rate in December 1982—higher than any time since the Great Depression—then dropped during the rest of Reagan's presidency.[139] Sixteen million new jobs were created, while inflation significantly decreased.[140] The net effect of all Reagan-era tax bills was a 1% decrease in government revenues when compared to Treasury Department revenue estimates from the Administration's first post-enactment January budgets.[141] However, federal income tax receipts increased from 1980 to 1989, rising from $308.7 billion to $549 billion.[142]

Rewriting history has failed republicans on every corner of their attempts and has been the number one factor of distrust among reports made by republicans.

 

[Gardener]

I think we should start sacrificing virgins again to appeal the gods.

but not before beating them up first.

Remember, this is Tigger you are talking to.

 

[Muddy Creek]

The people of MA were duped when they voted for that loser Brown to begin with. The idea that he was actually going to have ANY Principles was a laugh from the beginning. I tried to tell people that before he was elected. He was simply another Liberal in Pseudo-Conservative clothing.

Again, Reagan was NOT a Conservative. True Conservative economics do not give handouts or tax breaks to ANYONE. Everyone pays the same rate on their New Income.

The education here in MA is a joke. I see these children on a daily basis and I wouldn't hire more of the high school graduates to dig a ditch for me, nevermind do anything that requires actual though, common sense, morality, or values.

Reagan was the father of conservatism

 

[Muddy Creek]

Reagan was not a Conservative either, MC. There hasn't been a Conservative in the White House since prior to the Civil War. Republican, Democrat, etc.... makes no difference to me. It's all about Conservatism versus Liberalism.

How do you feel about neoliberal values?

 

[Tigger]

Sure he was a conservative. He gave more money to corporations than any other. He got rid of atni-trust laws and allowed monopolies to take over mom and pop capitalistic businesses. He gave money to the upper 1% through his Chrysler bailout and he was considered the Father of Conservatism.

That bailout is the only proof necessary that he WASN'T a Conservative. Conservatives do not believe in the Government bailing out ANYONE.... individual OR corporation.

Rewriting history has failed republicans on every corner of their attempts and has been the number one factor of distrust among reports made by republicans.

I'm not a Republican. Never have been and likely never will be. I'm a Conservative.