Rittenhouse trial WOW!

[Logician Man]

the poster you are responding to posts rarely care about facts.

Translation: I dare not post directly to DP members who have continually owned me when I engage directly, so is it OK with you if I bounce a 3rd party post off of you to save me further embarrassment?

 

[jaeger19]

What law was he breaking?

I believe 941.2 . Endangering safety by use of a deadly weapon.

Apparently there was drone footage shown to the jury that Rittenhouse was pointing his rifle at people that were not threatening him.

Rittenhouse Jury Views Video Cited as Reason for Mistrial

(Bloomberg) -- A drone video that prosecutors say shows Kyle Rittenhouse aiming his rifle at someone who posed no threat to him was reviewed by the jury in his murder trial on the second day of deliberations after a judge approved their request to see it again.Most Read from BloombergStartup...

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[RF667799]

I believe 941.2 . Endangering safety by use of a deadly weapon.

Apparently there was drone footage shown to the jury that Rittenhouse was pointing his rifle at people that were not threatening him.

Rittenhouse Jury Views Video Cited as Reason for Mistrial

(Bloomberg) -- A drone video that prosecutors say shows Kyle Rittenhouse aiming his rifle at someone who posed no threat to him was reviewed by the jury in his murder trial on the second day of deliberations after a judge approved their request to see it again.Most Read from BloombergStartup...

finance.yahoo.com

Have you viewed that video? It has been posted several times in this thread. IMO, nothing can be determined from that video.

 

[jaeger19]

It's true. Rittenhouse went because the police wouldn't. That's a fact.

Umm not a fact. The police were there. They in fact talked with Rittenhouse and barred him from returning to the car dealership when he left it.

Tracking the Suspect in the Fatal Kenosha Shootings (Published 2020)

Footage appears to show a teenager shooting three people during protests in Wisconsin. We tracked his movements that night.

www.nytimes.com

 

[jaeger19]

Have you viewed that video? It has been posted several times in this thread. IMO, nothing can be determined from that video.

It is what was reported by those inside the courtroom as to what was seen.
It's certainly believable..how else did Rittenhouse plan to " defend private property"

 

[Tigerace117]

what a silly claim

Nobody whose good at history denies the Confederacy was fighting to defend slavery or that the Nazis were right wing.

 

[TurtleDude]

Nobody whose good at history denies the Confederacy was fighting to defend slavery or that the Nazis were right wing.

what does that have to do with this thread. The Nazis were authoritarian collectivists. The confederacy was fighting to preserve slavery. There are not right wing terrorists under your bed or hiding in your laundry hamper

 

[Tigerace117]

what does that have to do with this thread. The Nazis were authoritarian collectivists. The confederacy was fighting to preserve slavery. There are not right wing terrorists under your bed or hiding in your laundry hamper

He whined about me bringing up a historical example.

The Nazis were far right thugs who slaughtered every “leftist” they could catch and relied on heavily armed civilian paramilitaries to take power in the first place. Contrary to what many conservatives claim, they were not “leftists”.

It’s not my fault the right is so bad at history.

 

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[Daddyo]

Ooh come on, conservatives are just as hypocritical as progressives, when the shoe is on the other foot they will have a fit about the same thing they previously agreed with.

That's why we are rioting and looting over the innocent girl killed at the Whitehouse Jan 6th right?

Sorry but facts are facts and you liberals are the ones who have acted violently and destructively. Been getting like this since Obama was elected. Couldn't wear a McCain Palin shirt without threats back then, any trump appearal when he was elected, and now we have riots, looting, and destruction of private property.

Left don't like a statue they vandalize or destroy it.

Now they don't like how this case is going so threaten to kill the judge and his kids. They promise riots if no confictions.

I defy you to post 5 examples of conservatives doing more than peacefully protesting.

 

[Daddyo]

Don’t quit your day job.

Can't quit its mine.

 

[Daddyo]

1. who am I going to defend myself against that I need an AR15 kind of weapon? We don't have dangerous animals, we don't do a lot of hunting and we don't usually live far enough from someone to need to defend ourselves rather than call the police.

2. he did not live there, he went there for trying to look like a tough guy.

That's your ignorance. The police weren't coming. The boy is on trial for what video showed was a desperate need for his rifle! Without it he would be dead or a vegetable.

During the trial it was more than proved that he went there to help.

 

[Daddyo]

I'm seeing that "jump kick man" has been identified, sort of, and is a career criminal. More interesting is that he had contacted the DA's office and offered to testify in exchange for leniency for his current set of charges. IIRC, the prosecution testified that they didn't know who jump kick man was, which would be untrue if he had contacted them previously.

Untrue is clean.......they lied! In court no less.

 

[Daddyo]

My exact words were:


The words "Who am I going to defend myself against? Because we have no dangerous animals, we don't do a lot of hunting and we usually don't live remote enough that cannot be remedied by calling the police." were meant to convey MY way of living where I LIVE, aka the Netherlands.

So no, we do not have police that leave when rioters start rioting, we have riot police who may bend back but as a whole do not "flee". These officers of the Mobiele Eenheid are basically normal officers who have been additionally trained and a Riot Police Unit are made up from normal protected police officers (full protection from legs to head with batons), then there are officers with dogs and mounted police. They use water cannons and usually give rioters only one way to move by blocking all other streets with special Riot police cars, big black ones with protected windows and wide enough to block streets reasonably easily and behind them are regular police who arrest those who try and escape. Between the protesters and the riot police are police officers in street clothes who pounce and arrest people and then move them behind the riot police line to have them removed from the scene. At the back of the mobiele eenheid there is one more unit and those are the armed units if gunmen are present among the rioters.

If a riot takes place or an area has to be evacuated/cleared, the police moves in a row with riot police trucks, mounted police, police dogs behind the first line of riot police, then there is the water cannon which has 2 functions, wet the protesters in cold weather and full on blasts in warmer weather.

You need a police education of 3 years and additional experience to be even considered for the Mobiele Eenheid/Riot police. Then they follow a 4 week training and several training exercises a year. Normally they use students or soldiers to provide real opposition during those training exercises. Besides the training exercises in deployment, you have to do mandatory fitness days.

For riots with armed people we have a unit from the military police with tank vehicles to break up armed riots.

Our riot police almost never uses tear gas, they don't use less lethal ammo, they overwhelm the rioters with a concerted trained concept. And they got their training mostly during the soccer riots and during the squatter riots.

And what happens in the area your police have to " bend back" from?

Over here we call it cordoned off.

Our police are educated and trained. They are not cowards. In most cases they are following the orders of their liberal leaders or liberal politicians who control police.

 

[Peter King]

That's why we are rioting and looting over the innocent girl killed at the Whitehouse Jan 6th right?

Sorry but facts are facts and you liberals are the ones who have acted violently and destructively. Been getting like this since Obama was elected. Couldn't wear a McCain Palin shirt without threats back then, any trump appearal when he was elected, and now we have riots, looting, and destruction of private property.

Left don't like a statue they vandalize or destroy it.

Now they don't like how this case is going so threaten to kill the judge and his kids. They promise riots if no confictions.

I defy you to post 5 examples of conservatives doing more than peacefully protesting.

You conservatives really are scraping the barrel aren't you. To claim the stupid lady who tried to break into the window to enter congress as an "innocent girl" is beyond ridiculous. Did she deserve to die? Who knows, I would have liked to see her not to be dead but then again the officers did not know if she was armed or unarmed and if you do something moronic like she did, well then you are taking all the responsibility for your own action on yourself.

This has nothing to do with wearing McCain/Palin shirts or wearing the clothing of the Orange Oaf but with a trial about what may or may not be a crime.

1. Proud boys
2. unite the right
3. the attack on congress
4. In August, a man was arrested after making a bomb threat near the U.S. Capitol. Just over a week ago, another man was caught near Democratic National Committee headquarters with a bayonet, a machete and neo-Nazi paraphernalia.
5. 84% of demonstration with guns are right wing protests
6. planned parenthood shooting
7. Overland park Jewish community center shootings
8. protest by the boogaloo boys

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Almost all deaths are committed by right wing terrorists, not left wing terrorists. Which isn't strange because virtually all protesters with guns at protests are right wingers, not leftists.

 

[Peter King]

That's your ignorance. The police weren't coming. The boy is on trial for what video showed was a desperate need for his rifle! Without it he would be dead or a vegetable.

During the trial it was more than proved that he went there to help.

That is your opinion.

 

[Peter King]

And what happens in the area your police have to " bend back" from?

Over here we call it cordoned off.

Our police are educated and trained. They are not cowards. In most cases they are following the orders of their liberal leaders or liberal politicians who control police.

And your police kills, shoots less lethal weapons, etc. etc. to "maintain" order, ours does not.

Sorry, but compared to our police most US police are almost not trained.

 

[ttwtt78640]

That's your ignorance. The police weren't coming. The boy is on trial for what video showed was a desperate need for his rifle! Without it he would be dead or a vegetable.

During the trial it was more than proved that he went there to help.

There is no need for anyone to prove why they chose to be armed.

 

[lurchadams]

OK, next time Unite the Right or any right wing extremist gang protests there will be armed black/white/latino groups ready and waiting for them to do some stupidity using the Rittenhouse defense. Sadly I think conservatives will then suddenly take offense at the same actions that Rittenhouse did.

Absolutely. What do you think any Republican would do if a bunch of black people armed with AR-15's showed up at one of their rallies?

 

[lurchadams]

You acknowledge ignorance of the case, and go on to assert that Rittenhouse is innocent, but the terrible folks on the left won’t allow him to be set free.

That’s some balls out hypocrisy.

Sad thing is - jail's probably the safest place for the kid. When he's acquitted, he's going to be requited into one of the white militia organizations, he'll continue being a piece of shit to girls. His life is pretty much over.

 

[Peter King]

Absolutely. What do you think any Republican would do if a bunch of black people armed with AR-15's showed up at one of their rallies?

Are they wearing adult diapers? If not, well running quickly to the nearest bathroom? Sorry, I should not joke about this but before the republicans would be confronted by them the police would make sure that would not happen.

 

[Juin]

But then again, given how frantically you tried to defend the Wehrmacht and Confederacy that was hardly a surprise.

They were worthy adversaries. And their actual adversaries in the fields of battle recognized that. Grant did. Their judgement rumps yours.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Absolutely. What do you think any Republican would do if a bunch of black people armed with AR-15's showed up at one of their rallies?

Hmm…

Black armed protesters march in Kentucky demanding justice for Breonna Taylor

A group of heavily armed Black protesters marched through Louisville, Kentucky on Saturday demanding justice for Breonna Taylor, a Black woman killed in March by police officers who burst into her apartment.

www.reuters.com

 

[lurchadams]

Not my problem if some are so eat up with the dumbass as to not understand what is good and what is bad. Every single policy from the border to energy to foreign policy was amazingly better under trump.

And for you to call trump, a brilliant billionaire businessman who bested your top political professionals, dumb, just makes you look real bad.

For you to rank Trump below the complete and utter brain dead moron currently in the Whitehouse just leaves anyone on the fence about you 100 percent sure.

Gas prices way up
Inflation way up
Illegal border crossings way up
US oil production way down
Virus deaths way up
Taxes going up
More social spending which equals more inflation
Russian about to invade Ukraine
China about to invade Taiwan
Russian pipeline approved
Our pipeline denied
Afghanistan lol

You guys accused trump of being putins bitch but Biden removed trumps sanctions on Russia and biden approved the lucrative Russian pipeline. So we know who the real bitch is.

Pathetic.

All the stuff you listed above would still have happened under trump, had he been reelected. The inflation and supply chain problem is global. I wonder how you would have justified inflation under trump? Let me guess: You'd blame it all on the Democrats!

Your post and all posts like these are hilarious in their ignorance and their hypocrisy.

 

[lurchadams]

Hmm…

Black armed protesters march in Kentucky demanding justice for Breonna Taylor

A group of heavily armed Black protesters marched through Louisville, Kentucky on Saturday demanding justice for Breonna Taylor, a Black woman killed in March by police officers who burst into her apartment.

www.reuters.com

From your article:

" walked in formation to a fenced off intersection where they were separated by police from a smaller group of armed counter-protesters."

Sounds like there were a bunch of good 'ol boys there makin' sure them black people didn't get "black angry". Don't want no trouble from them Brionna-lovers, do we?

What do you think would happen if these guys showed up at a trump rally in Iowa?