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Reported Polling Results Biased For Hillary?

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CBS News is now pushing the pro-Hillary Clinton polls in rapid fashion. Late on Wednesday, this media outlet released the results of a national poll claiming to show that Clinton holds a 6% advantage over Donald Trump in the direct head-to-head matchup.

Apparently, the poll “was conducted by telephone June 9-13, 2016 among a random sample of 1,280 adults nationwide, including 1,048 registered voters[.] … The data have been weighted to reflect U.S. Census figures on demographic variables.”

However, based on the polling details, the final weighted sample of 976 registered voters is made up of just 28% Republicans and 35% Democrats.

In the unweighted sample of registered voters, the relative percentage by party was 29% Republicans and 35% Democrats.

So, during the weighting process, the poll increased the Democrat-Republican spread from 6% to 7%. This relative weighting should have been headed in the other direction.

According to nationwide polling data, Republican Party affiliation has averaged 28% for 2016 so far, and it also averaged 28% since the start of May. This agrees well with the CBS News poll’s composition.

On the other hand, the last time the Democrats were at 35% was early March…of 2013. Since May of this year, Democratic party affiliation has averaged 29%, just 1% higher than the Republicans, not 7% higher.

As a result, this CBS News poll appears to be biased in favor of the Democrats by the same margin that Clinton purportedly holds over Trump, meaning that if the bias is removed, so is Clinton’s lead, and we have a statistical tie.

Likewise, NBC reported Hillary Clinton opened up a 7 point lead over Donald Trump this week. But, once again, if you correct for oversampling of Democrats you find the race is virtually tied.

MEDIA DIRTY TRICKS: CBS, NBC Manipulate Polling Data to Show Hillary with Lead Over Trump - Gateway Pundit

CNN/ORC released a major national poll yesterday showing Clinton out in front of Trump by 13%. This is apparently "based on 878 registered voters and 12 individuals who plan to register to vote, for a total of 890 registered voters." The exact political composition of all 890 respondents is difficult to determine by looking at the methodology, but if the following information from the poll is any indication, there are some issues:

Based on 267 registered voters who describe themselves as Republicans and 139 who describe themselves as Independents who lean Republican, for a total of 406 Republicans ...

Based on 287 registered voters who describe themselves as Democrats and 118 who describe themselves as Independents who lean Democratic, for a total of 405 Democrats.

Looks balanced, until you wonder who the remaining 79 (or 9%) are, and until you look at the ratio of independents to Republicans or Democrats in each division. More than one third (34%) of the "Republicans" are independents, while just 29% of the "Democrats" are Independents. This modest difference is important.

General election head-to-head polls appear biased against Trump - American Thinker

Tell me again how the news media is unbiased? :roll: I really need to hear it again, maybe this time I'll believe it. :roll:

Well, at least the electorate isn't being fooled by this obvious display of bias in the Biased Lame Stream Media.

Voters think the media is even more prejudiced now against Donald Trump in favor of Hillary Clinton.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 49% of Likely U.S. Voters think most reporters are biased against Trump, the presumptive Republican party presidential nominee, up from 47% in December before the official start of the primary season. By contrast, only 18% believe most reporters are biased against Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee, and that's down from 23% six months ago.

Just 36% say most reporters are not biased against Trump, while 67% think most are not biased against Clinton. That compares to 31% and 59% respectively in the previous survey. Roughly 15% remain undecided on both questions. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Voters See More Anti-Trump, Pro-Hillary Bias in Media - Rasmussen Reports
 

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Tell me again how the news media is unbiased? :roll: I really need to hear it again, maybe this time I'll believe it. :roll:

Well, at least the electorate isn't being fooled by this obvious display of bias in the Biased Lame Stream Media.

Are we doing this again this election? Republic ans used the exact same excuse 4 years ago to claim that Romney was not actually behind in the polls. Turned out the polls where right...
 

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Are we doing this again this election? Republic ans used the exact same excuse 4 years ago to claim that Romney was not actually behind in the polls. Turned out the polls where right...

I think it's different than last time. Did the media polls purposefully distort the standings last time, such as they've done here?
They might have, but I don't recall them doing so last time.
So this is not 'the exact same excuses'.

I'd just as soon have honest and accurate polls that are using sound methodology. Wouldn't you?
 

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I think it's different than last time. Did the media polls purposefully distort the standings last time, such as they've done here?
They might have, but I don't recall them doing so last time.
So this is not 'the exact same excuses'.

I'd just as soon have honest and accurate polls that are using sound methodology. Wouldn't you?

I think Hillary is the candidate that has obviously sold out to big money and big money owns the Media. Just like the AP article that declared Hillary the winner the day before the Calif primary to discourage potential voters showing up. This is usually the Media that the Repubs get, but Hillary is their best shot. True blood NEOCON.
 

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I think Hillary is the candidate that has obviously sold out to big money and big money owns the Media. Just like the AP article that declared Hillary the winner the day before the Calif primary to discourage potential voters showing up. This is usually the Media that the Repubs get, but Hillary is their best shot. True blood NEOCON.

Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street. If that's not bad enough, (well, at least they are Americans),
she's also bought and paid for by all the foreign nation and business leaders who contributed millions to her Clinton Foundation slush fund (reference Russian Uranium deal).

Some that is this corrupt shouldn't be allowed into the White House, much less be elected as president. It's the worst possible outcome for the nation.
 

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Lol.... Hillary beats Trump in every important poll... for... 2 weeks... and the media seems to be biased because conservatives think so.
 

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Are we doing this again this election? Republic ans used the exact same excuse 4 years ago to claim that Romney was not actually behind in the polls. Turned out the polls where right...

Well it was proven that polls were oversampled for democrats in the last presidential election, are you admitting it might have worked and they're at it again?
 

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Well it was proven that polls were oversampled for democrats in the last presidential election, are you admitting it might have worked and they're at it again?

Well, no, that was not proven. That was claimed. And that claim failed, miserably. Turns out that people do change their reported party affiliation, and it is perfectly normal, and that the polls actually where accurate.
 

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Lol.... Hillary beats Trump in every important poll... for... 2 weeks... and the media seems to be biased because conservatives think so.

What they will do is adjust the polls for the perceived bias, and all of a sudden, Trump is winning. It will be just like 4 years ago.
 

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What they will do is adjust the polls for the perceived bias, and all of a sudden, Trump is winning. It will be just like 4 years ago.

I remember. Anyways, quick question. When Trump loses, who do you think they'll blame first. Minorities or the media?


Sent from a flower watered by the tears of Trump supporters and crazy newb liberals.
 

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I remember. Anyways, quick question. When Trump loses, who do you think they'll blame first. Minorities or the media?


Sent from a flower watered by the tears of Trump supporters and crazy newb liberals.

Which they? Everyone will blame the media, it is always at fault for not agreeing with their bias. The bigwigs in the party, the senators and congressmen and so on, they wont(at least publicly) blame the media. The rest, depends.
 

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I seem to recall that was the claim in 2008 made by Faux Noise..............the polls are biased......


….and Romney was trounced by about 5 points…… so much for how the RW is accurate in judging the bias in the polls……..
…when the polls say they are on the short end……..
Who do they think they are fooling?

SEE:
The Final 2012 Presidential Election Results Aren’t Close | US News Opinion
 

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Well, no, that was not proven. That was claimed. And that claim failed, miserably. Turns out that people do change their reported party affiliation, and it is perfectly normal, and that the polls actually where accurate.

Well of course it was proved, each of the major polling organizations have a demographic breakdown and methodology used in the poll.
You honestly didn't know this?
 

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POLL BIAS LOLWTFBBQ


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Well of course it was proved, each of the major polling organizations have a demographic breakdown and methodology used in the poll.
You honestly didn't know this?

Well, no. It was claimed. That means something different than it was proven. The fact that the polls where right, that is what we call evidence. What you are doing is making claims without evidence.
 

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Well, no. It was claimed. That means something different than it was proven. The fact that the polls where right, that is what we call evidence. What you are doing is making claims without evidence.

LOL I don't think you understood my previous comment.
The polling firms themselves disclose their own methodology and demographics breakdown.
That means anyone on their website can see how many democrats, independents and republicans were polled, the over sampling of any party is there for all to see, compende?.
And who won the election is irrelevant to early polls, the only poll that would reflect the election would be exit polls. LMAO
 
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I remember. Anyways, quick question. When Trump loses, who do you think they'll blame first. Minorities or the media?


Sent from a flower watered by the tears of Trump supporters and crazy newb liberals.

When Trump loses, who do you think they'll blame first. Minorities or the media?


The media, Muslims, and minorities. And Mexicans. And women. And Megyn Kelly.

If Trump wins, I'll blame all of the brain dead imbeciles who foisted him upon the rest of us.

Better to have them whine than me.
 

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LOL I don't think you understood my previous comment.
The polling firms themselves disclose their own methodology and demographics breakdown.
That means anyone on their website can see how many democrats, independents and republicans were polled, compende?.
And who won the election is irrelevant to early polls! LMAO

So basically, your point is...well, know knows. The thing to understand is the methodology works. That is why it is used. It is not biased, it does not give false results. That people can see the numbers, that is what we call "transparency". It is a good thing, not a biased conspiracy.
 

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When Trump loses, who do you think they'll blame first. Minorities or the media?


The media, Muslims, and minorities. And Mexicans. And women. And Megyn Kelly.

If Trump wins, I'll blame all of the brain dead imbeciles who foisted him upon the rest of us.

Better to have them whine than me.

If Trump loses, it will be the fault of women. They hate Trump.

But seriously, it will be the fault of white men, who did not love him enough to make up for all the people he pissed off.
 

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So basically, your point is...well, know knows. The thing to understand is the methodology works. That is why it is used. It is not biased, it does not give false results. That people can see the numbers, that is what we call "transparency". It is a good thing, not a biased conspiracy.

You seem to be struggling with this!

If a poll asked 1,000 registered voters who they would vote for president: Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, and 600 were democrat, 200 were independent and 200 were republican, who would lead in that poll?
 

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there should be absolutely no surprises by now about the lack of journalistic and polling integrity in this country. They are liberal. They are shills. The only polling that will matter will be in November, provided there isnt massive voter fraud.

It CANT be missed that Hillary Clinton and the democrats showed out in low numbers despite having Sanders energizing a significant voter base. Conversely, Trump drew record numbers of voters. So all the wonky states...they dont mean a thing.
 

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You seem to be struggling with this!

If a poll asked 1,000 registered voters who they would vote for president: Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, and 600 were democrat, 200 were independent and 200 were republican, who would lead in that poll?

If a poll asks 1000 registered voters, and 600 say they are democrats, 200 independents, and 200 republicans, then within a certain margin for error, that is what they are. That means that there are more democrats. If you start out with a base assumption that there will be X number of democrats, Y number of independents and Z number of republicans, then if people respond otherwise, you are changing the poll results and making them less likely to be accurate. We went through this 4 years ago. It failed miserably, and it turned out in fact what the polls showed was more people identifying as democrats, not that the polls where biased.
 

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I think it's different than last time. Did the media polls purposefully distort the standings last time, such as they've done here?
They might have, but I don't recall them doing so last time.
So this is not 'the exact same excuses'.

I'd just as soon have honest and accurate polls that are using sound methodology. Wouldn't you?

Then why are many high level Republicans so worried?
 

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Wouldn't a better question be 'Why is the media so deep in the tank for Hillary?'

Nope- Why is the republican campaign still divided at such a late date?
No focus on bringing the party together.
People disgusted by Trump continuing comments.
Fund raising in the dumps
Insurrection within the party over Trump.
The problems are in the news each day. Not hard to see.
 
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