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Remember the Dixie Chicks backlash?

iliveonramen said:
I remember when this happened. The Dixie Chicks were the biggest country music stars at the time and they had gained cross genre appeal. They criticized the Iraq war and Bush, and their careers vanished over night as conservative country music listeners burned their cd's and called into radio shows.

Now every conservative on this message board and in general pretends they never supported George Bush or the Iraq war.

In 20 years, is the same thing going to happen when talking about Trump?

www.billboard.com

An Oral History of The Chicks’ Seismic 2003 Controversy From the Industry Execs Who Lived It

The Chicks were one of the biggest acts in country music in 2003. That all changed overnight.
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So true. The Chicks were oh, so bad, for opposing the war and not buying into the WMD's lie. Oops. Nothing found. No WMD's. Did country music fans ever apologize to the Chicks? Nope. They got death threats. And Iraq didn't cause 911. It was a stupid war based on lies. Thousands died. It was costly at a time when W had just squandered an extremely rare budget surplus, the opposite of a deficit, that Clinton had handed him. W's idea of what to do with that rare chance to pay down the debt was to instead issue refund checks to taxpayers. What a stupid idea. People did not need it. All he was doing was buying popularity that he couldn't gather with good decision making. W screwed up the economy so bad by 2008 it melted down into the great recession.

Where are the apologies? The Chicks were spot on. Republicans seem to have Wide Open Spaces between their ears.
 
iliveonramen said:
There was lots of criticism about Obama over his drone strikes from lots of prominent leftwing sources:
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But mainstream media seemed to adore the guy even if it was more of a warmonger than George Bush
iliveonramen said:
www.theatlantic.com

Obama's Weak Defense of His Record on Drone Killings

His choices made unjust strikes predictable and inevitable—and with Donald Trump poised to take power, the precedents he set are all the more alarming.
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www.newyorker.com

The Unblinking Stare

Steve Coll reports from Pakistan on what “surgical strikes” leave behind.
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www.vox.com

From torture to drone strikes: the disturbing legal legacy Obama is leaving for Trump

Trump will have massive executive power when he takes office. Thanks, Obama.
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www.cbsnews.com

Dems, GOP turn up heat on Obama over drones

Senators are challenging the president to spell out his justification for using drones for targeted killings
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No, the only thing hallow is your claim that there wasn't plenty of prominent left politicians, news publications, and groups criticizing Obama's use of drones.
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They're not prominent.
 
bullseyelqcs said:
Whys that? As has been pointed out already, the same conservatives that cancelled them for their comments now want the world to believe that they never supported the very thing The Chicks decried. If it wasn't so ****ed up it would be hilarious.
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Who are these conservatives?
 
I only found this thread because it was mentioned in a themed thread. I'm glad it was. I am a major Dixie Chicks (now just called The Chicks) fan. Their fall in popularity, when it occurred, never bothered me. They came back strong as ever, and they are great.

"Landslide" (Live)
The Dixie Chicks
 
iliveonramen said:
I remember when this happened. The Dixie Chicks were the biggest country music stars at the time and they had gained cross genre appeal. They criticized the Iraq war and Bush, and their careers vanished over night as conservative country music listeners burned their cd's and called into radio shows.

Now every conservative on this message board and in general pretends they never supported George Bush or the Iraq war.

In 20 years, is the same thing going to happen when talking about Trump?

www.billboard.com

An Oral History of The Chicks’ Seismic 2003 Controversy From the Industry Execs Who Lived It

The Chicks were one of the biggest acts in country music in 2003. That all changed overnight.
www.billboard.com www.billboard.com
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Trump has a much stronger cult of personality than Dubya, but yes there may be a time in the future when "conservatives" will pretend they never supported him, as they have done With Dubya.

A lot of this depends on what happens in 2028 though. Trump's first term was such a shit show that it resulted in a Biden presidency with a Dem house and senate, but Trump was able to milk the phony election fraud narratives with a right wing media enabling his bullshit, and he got lucky that people were pissed about inflation and Biden's age, and was able to make it back to the white house for a second term. Now his legacy rests entirely on 2028 and whether or not he can get another MAGA president installed in 2028, even if himself again. If the Dems win big in 2028 though? That may change everything entirely, especially since the whole "stolen election" nonsense doesn't really work for anyone else but him, and even with him it's wearing thin.
 
CLAX1911 said:
What it is is nobody trusted criticism from the left because it wasn't actually criticism of the involvement in the war or something like that it was criticism before not being Democrats.

Did you notice that Democrats criticize George Bush for 8 years over the war in Iraq but said nothing about the 563 drone strikes and airstrikes Obama oversaw during his eight years in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.

Criticism from the left is always 100% hollow because everything they criticize a republican for is perfectly okay even if it's several orders of magnitude greater when it's a Democrat doing it.

The Dixie Chicks turned on their audience.
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Trump dropped more bombs in his first term than Obama did in 2 terms and you people said jack shit about it. He also stopped reporting the drone strike numbers and deaths for political purposes.
 
CLAX1911 said:
It's just always the same criticism with these people he's racist he's a Nazi they said that about George Bush they said it about John McCain they said it about mitt Romney anything but being an absolute Democrat means Nazi so I can't take any of their criticism seriously.

They wonder why they're discredited.
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J.D. Vance called Trump Hitler bro.

And at your tea party rallies back in the day, your GOP brethren called Obama a nazi and had photos and signs of him dressed like Hitler.
 
Fletch said:
Who are these conservatives?
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In 2003, Republican support for the war was in the low 90th percentile. Less than a decade later, that number had fallen to between 55 and 58%. So at least 1/3 of Republicans suddenly didn't support what they had supported before. Admittedly, I don't have a list of each individual for whom that might have been true, but the numbers say it was quite drastic.
 
MAGAnificent said:
Nope. The Afghanistan war dragged on because the politicians started limiting the rules of engagement to the point where the troops were rhetorically fighting with their hands tied behind their backs, just like in Vietnam.
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This is both stupid and wrong.
 
Luce said:
This is both stupid and wrong.
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Yes, it was stupid and wrong that in Afghanistan and Vietnam, the politicians limited the rules of engagement to the point that they were not fighting a war but maintaining a stalemate. Among democrats, I blame one republican, GW Bush for that. When our troops are put in harm's way, the objective should be to kick ass, win, and come home.
 
iliveonramen said:
I'm not sure what mainstream media is to conservatives anymore.

Fox News is mainstream.
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If it's on television or cable it's main Stream.

I swear Fox News exists for the sole purpose for leftists to have something to mention when they're arguing with somebody about news.

I don't watch it. You likely know far more about it than I do.
 
Puigb said:
Trump dropped more bombs in his first term than Obama did in 2 terms
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Obama ran $563 airstrikes and drone strikes so I find your math to be not very likely.
Puigb said:
and you people said jack shit about it.
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Yeah you people were whining about sentence fragments he said that you took out of context.
Puigb said:
He also stopped reporting the drone strike numbers and deaths for political purposes.
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Did he also change the weather in manipulate the minds of hundreds of thousands of people?

Maybe he's part of the Illuminati.
 
MAGAnificent said:
Yes, it was stupid and wrong that in Afghanistan and Vietnam, the politicians limited the rules of engagement to the point that they were not fighting a war but maintaining a stalemate. Among democrats, I blame one republican, GW Bush for that. When our troops are put in harm's way, the objective should be to kick ass, win, and come home.
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No, it's that you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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