tr1414
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tr1414 said:Allah boasts of being a terrorist.Where did you see that?
I have seen most of what you say in the Sunnah and the Koran but I dont recall that statement. Got a quote from the Koran?
ShamMol said:Qur'an 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
That seemed to be Christianity...could this be the muslim crusades and they will change after?
These days, the mosque near me is preaching peace (My school required me to go to services of many different faiths for two projects). Must be wrong.tr1414 said:What are they teaching these days? Read the Qur'an then get back to me.
tr1414 said:All of the following are in Muhammad's own words.
Bukhari:V4B52N50 "The Prophet said, A single endeavor of fighting in Allah's Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it."
Qur'an 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an 9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Qur'an 8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah. So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (non-Muslims) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone."
Ishaq:324 "Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals."
Qur'an 9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."
Ishaq:300 "I am fighting in Allah's service. This is righteous, true and good."
Ishaq:587 "Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly, seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Isalm. We will fight until our religion is established everywhere. We will plunder them, for they (non-Muslims) must suffer."
Qur'an 9:123 "Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you."
Muslim:C9B1N31 "I have been commanded to fight against people (non-Muslims) till they testify to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and belive in me (that) I am the Messenger and in all that I have brought."
Tabari IX:69 "Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah's helpers and viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they belive in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Missenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for those who disbelive, we will fight them forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter to us."
Wow, that is cordial. How bout this, I will link you to the post so you can give your thoughts.tr1414 said:How about get a life... that's what I owe you... grow up & see what the world is like
ShamMol said:One of the five pillars of their religion is peace. The vast majority of muslims believe in the value of that. It is only the extremists who don't.
Wow! When I read hatred like this it really makes me sad. The very hatred that the accuser is portraying as being spewed by the average Muslim is being spewed by the poster.tr1414 said:Muslims are quite the peacefull ones now huh? Give me a break.... EVERYWHERE in the world today it's Muslims against somebody... religion of peace my ass.
I lost my cousin. You weren't the only one who suffered ahole, get that. However, I see past my rage and see a religion that is in chaos. You have one set who is a small minority believe in extremist views and then you have the majority who believe in the five pillars, not the jihadist six. Those five include peace, while the jihadists add on their purpose in life jihad.tr1414 said:Tell that to my anut who died in the towers on 9/11 & the rest of the 3,000 who were murderd that day by MUSLIMS.... if you love them so much move to the middle east
tr1414 said:Tell that to my anut who died in the towers on 9/11 & the rest of the 3,000 who were murderd that day by MUSLIMS.... if you love them so much move to the middle east
26 X World Champs said:Wow! When I read hatred like this it really makes me sad. The very hatred that the accuser is portraying as being spewed by the average Muslim is being spewed by the poster.
Condemning one billion people is just as dumb as dumb can get. It shows a complete disconnect from society for anyone with even half a brain judges people not by the billions, but by the individual.
What bothers me is that hatred for other nations/societies that I read in this community. Some of you hate all Muslims, some of you hate all French or Germans, some of you hate all non-Christians, non-Whites, or you hate all Communists, all you hate all Democrats, etc. etc.
What does hate beget?
tr1414 said:Why is it that liberals want to understand everyone so bad? Expecpt when you defend America. Beget this, MUSLIMS caused 9/11, no one else.
Surenderer said:how many muslims? 1.5 billion? are you judging that many muslims by the actions of 19?
Hating people for being Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Black, White, Yellow or Red is WRONG. Surely your smart enough to know that the actions of a few do not mean that the overwhelming majority agree with their sick ideology?tr1414 said:Oh. it's only 19 muslims in the world that suck? Then you wonder why Bush won... you guys just don't get it.... maybe you want to bow to the east, I don't.
26 X World Champs said:Hating people for being Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Black, White, Yellow or Red is WRONG. Surely your smart enough to know that the actions of a few do not mean that the overwhelming majority agree with their sick ideology?
For example, there are Americans who belong to the KKK, or are Nazis etc. Are all Americans to be judged by them? How about the abortion terrorists who bomb abortion clinics? Are all people who are anti-abortion also terrorists?
It's unhealthy to hate, especially so if you're hating people because of their religion or their skin color. It's also incredibly wrong.
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