Refusing heart transplant for anti-vaxxer

[Schism]

Ah, you mean how the unvaccinated are like those who went around having unprotected sex knowing they already carried HIV/AIDS? Completely Agree.

Oh my. The stigma you've painted. How dehumanizing.

 

[Bodi]

This is a very sad story.

I am not at all happy a healthcare provider is denying care to a fellow American, based upon his vax status.

That being said, the provider seems to have a valid medical reason to refuse.

It's sad all around . . .

Yet tens of millions are denied healthcare based off of their economic status....

 

[Bodi]

i would sue.

Too bad America is a Third World Country when it comes to Healthcare because otherwise people would just be covered...

 

[Geoist]

Oh my. The stigma you've painted. How dehumanizing.

Actually what I referred to literally happened. And the unvaccinated are really not much better.

Hairdresser Daryll Rowe given life sentence for deliberately infecting men with HIV

‘Predatory’ Daryll Rowe found guilty of grievous bodily harm after transmitting virus to five partners

www.theguardian.com

 

[Arlette]

Hospital refusing heart transplant for man who won't get vaccinated

Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston says its policy won't allow DJ Ferguson to have the surgery since not being vaccinated seriously hurts its chances for success and his long-term outlook.

www.cbsnews.com

Taking anti-vaxx "principles" to another level. What sort of a monster chooses anti-vaxx over being there for their kids?

Hospital refusing heart transplant for man who won't get vaccinated

Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston says its policy won't allow DJ Ferguson to have the surgery since not being vaccinated seriously hurts its chances for success and his long-term outlook.

www.cbsnews.com

Taking anti-vaxx "principles" to another level. What sort of a monster chooses anti-vaxx over being there for their kids?

Maybe somebody who is suicidal, just done with hospitals and doctors.

 

[KevinKohler]

Not the same. There's a direct correlation between drinking and liver damage. There's no evidence that you're guaranteed to get covid infected.

There's a 100% chance everyone is going to get covid. Covid has made its way to Antarctica. Population, 15.

 

[KevinKohler]

A person has a risk of getting hit by a car on their way through the parking lot on their way out.

Sure. We'll call that a half percent chance. Vs a 100% chance of eventually coming into contact by, and being infected with, covid.

 

[snakestretcher]

Hospital refusing heart transplant for man who won't get vaccinated

Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston says its policy won't allow DJ Ferguson to have the surgery since not being vaccinated seriously hurts its chances for success and his long-term outlook.

www.cbsnews.com

Taking anti-vaxx "principles" to another level. What sort of a monster chooses anti-vaxx over being there for their kids?

A christian conservative, probably. The most backward and ignorant of all species.

 

[snakestretcher]

This is a very sad story.

I am not at all happy a healthcare provider is denying care to a fellow American, based upon his vax status.

That being said, the provider seems to have a valid medical reason to refuse.

It's sad all around . . .

Surgeons in Britain have refused to work on the morbidly obese for similar reasons.

No surgery for smokers or the obese: Policy in UK stirs debate | CNN

One local health group in the UK is adopting a policy that delays or denies routine surgery indefinitely to patients who smoke or are obese.

edition.cnn.com

 

[Decypher]

It is indeed. But will the hyperventilating vaxxers bother to read it?

Remarkable you managed to read it in the three minutes between when it was posted and you made this comment.

 

[Overitall]

Remarkable you managed to read it in the three minutes between when it was posted and you made this comment.

Why would you assume I didn't come across it before it was posted? If you bothered to pay attention to what I've been saying all along obviously I'm aware of the subject matter it brings to light. What you attempted to do here is very weak. Attacking my integrity instead of addressing my comments.

 

[Overitall]

Sure. We'll call that a half percent chance. Vs a 100% chance of eventually coming into contact by, and being infected with, covid.

The patient has just as much of a chance of getting a cold or flu. In both cases the risks are the same.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I'm vaccinated and boosted. What other people decide is their business, not mine.

Right.
And when they get rejected for a heart transplant, I dont give a , thats on them.

 

[Overitall]

There's a 100% chance everyone is going to get covid. Covid has made its way to Antarctica. Population, 15.

Then all the measures to prevent catching it (like masks, social distancing, etc.) are pointless. There's no need to implement mandates; shutdown schools and/or businesses if we're all going to catch it anyways. You're making the case for why we should return to normalcy and learn to live with covid.

 

[Overitall]

You seem to be unsure about the concept of risk assessment. There's a risk of a meteor killing us all. People good at risk assessments likely don't consider that risk for about 99.9999% of decisions. They do consider risks of a contagious and often deadly disease spreading rampantly throughout their community, and the risk/benefit of vaccines that protect against that disease. Different risks, different assessments.

The drugs given to transplant patients suppressing their immunity make those risks moot. There are other diseases they can be infected with that can be just as deadly as covid is for them. Plus it ignores the best way of mitigating the risks -- masks (PPE) and social distancing. You know, the measures we relied on before vaccines were even available.

 

[Overitall]

I asked him for a cite for his assertion. Maybe you have one that vaccines don't reduce the odds of dying if infected with diseases the patient was vaccinated against. Can't wait to see the literature.

Read through the thread. It's been posted. Or simply do a Google search. It's not difficult to find.

 

[Callen]

The patient has just as much of a chance of getting a cold or flu. In both cases the risks are the same.

Neither of those things are true when we speak of serious infection which is what the doctors are concerned about.The chances of catching omicron is much higher than the seasonal flu, cases counts have demonstrated that. I don't know about the common cold because it isn't tracked as much as the other two but rarely do colds land you in hospital. In any case, it is ridiculous for anyone to assume that the surgical team would have any reason other than the risk of an unsuccessful outcome to base their decisions on.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

The drugs given to transplant patients suppressing their immunity make those risks moot. There are other diseases they can be infected with that can be just as deadly as covid is for them. Plus it ignores the best way of mitigating the risks -- masks (PPE) and social distancing. You know, the measures we relied on before vaccines were even available.

I am thinking you probably know far more about it than a team of surgeons and experts whose job it is to determine the best possible outcomes for organ transplants.

Are you Facebook Certified™?

 

[Paradoxical]

your estate might, anyway

Left-wingers are truly heartless.

Congress needs to pass legislation shutting down any hospital refusing service.

 

[Paradoxical]

Free markets, baby. Deal with it.

Congress needs to step in.

 

[Paradoxical]

Too bad America is a Third World Country when it comes to Healthcare because otherwise people would just be covered...

Really now. What would happen of some snot-nosed liberal hospital director at a gubment run hospital refusing to treat fat people?

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Left-wingers are truly heartless.

Congress needs to pass legislation shutting down any hospital refusing service.

Take that guy off the heart transplant list...get him on the list for a

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Power BURN!!!!!

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Congress needs to step in.

You want Socialism.
I'd support it.

 

[OrphanSlug]

We should not be politicizing medical care anymore than we already have.

 

[Paradoxical]

You want Socialism.
I'd support it.

This is what we have now. Don't kid yourself.