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Reductions In Force

TheDemSocialist said:
:funny:cuckoo::lamo
youve got to be fist ****ing me?
So when you have no standing army are you a Marxist state?
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No. We would no longer have a country because every radical terrorist in the world would want to destroy us. Thankfully the military won't let that happen.
 
Paschendale said:
A couple of my friends in the military have said several times that there are just too many people in it. They've been turning away volunteers for years. I'm not surprised that they want to shrink it a bit.
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They have turned away some volunteers not because they don't want them, but because there is no money to pay them with. These "undeclared wars" have drained us, especially when the troops and commanders are not allowed to act like warriors and actually fight without consulting a lawyer...rules of engagement, you know...the wimpy-way to fight a war and lose.
 
coolwalker said:
They have turned away some volunteers not because they don't want them, but because there is no money to pay them with. These "undeclared wars" have drained us, especially when the troops and commanders are not allowed to act like warriors and actually fight without consulting a lawyer...rules of engagement, you know...the wimpy-way to fight a war and lose.
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Exactly. If we're going to fight a war, then we should fight a war. If we're going to go into it half way, we shouldn't go in at all.

We should have learned that lesson from Vietnam, but didn't.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Yep - it's actually a lifestyle and for those of us who are in it's a governing force that determines everything we do.
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All jobs are a governing force that determines everything we do. Just like the military, someone's job dictates to them how much time they spend at home, where he lives, when he goes to bed, how he dresses, how he grooms himself, what kind of vehicle he drives, how he conducts himself when he's not on the job.
 
apdst said:
All jobs are a governing force that determines everything we do. Just like the military, someone's job dictates to them how much time they spend at home, where he lives, when he goes to bed, how he dresses, how he grooms himself, what kind of vehicle he drives, how he conducts himself when he's not on the job.
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what kinda jobs are you talking about????????????????

:lamo
 
Thunder said:
please list other "jobs" where you go to prison if you quit, or don't show up for work for a whole week...without scheduled leave.
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I can show you millions of jobs that have consequences for quitting, or not showing up for a whole week...without schedualed leave.

I've never had a job, where I could not show up for a whole week and not get fired.
 
apdst said:
I can show you millions of jobs that have consequences for quitting, or not showing up for a whole week...without schedualed leave.

I've never had a job, where I could not show up for a whole week and not get fired.
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ah....moving that ol' goalposts huh?? :lamo

if you don't show up for work at a job, you get fired.

if you don't show up for work in the military, you are tried & often convicted of a crime.

BIG DIFFERENCE!!!
 
Thunder said:
what kinda jobs are you talking about????????????????

:lamo
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There's no dress code at your job? Grooming standards?

Take myself, for instance. I'm a CDL driver with a HAZMAT endorsement. If I get convicted of a crime, or get a DUI during my off time...I'm fired and will most likely never hold a CDL again. If I get too many speeding tickets in my personal vehicle, I could lose my CDL.

I also hold a TWIC. If I'm convicted of a crime, I lose my TWIC and will shortly after, lose my job.
 
Thunder said:
ah....moving that ol' goalposts huh?? :lamo

if you don't show up for work at a job, you get fired.

if you don't show up for work in the military, you are tried & often convicted of a crime.

BIG DIFFERENCE!!!
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Pointing out that there are negative concequences for not performing your job to the proper standards isn't moving the goal posts.

if you don't show up for work in the military, you are tried & often convicted of a crime.
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Not necessarily. AWOL's are dealt with through non-judicial punishment, usually.
 
apdst said:
There's no dress code at your job? Grooming standards?

Take myself, for instance. I'm a CDL driver with a HAZMAT endorsement. If I get convicted of a crime, or get a DUI during my off time...I'm fired and will most likely never hold a CDL again. If I get too many speeding tickets in my personal vehicle, I could lose my CDL.

I also hold a TWIC. If I'm convicted of a crime, I lose my TWIC and will shortly after, lose my job.
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we have no standards for hair length or style, facial hair, etc.

we have a basic dress code, that is enforced at the discretion of the supervisor.

if I don't come to work without leave enough times, I lose my job.

but I will NEVER be sent to prison....for not coming to work without leave.

UNLIKE IN THE MILITARY, HENCE MAKING YOUR ANALOGY STUPID & RIDICULOUS.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Exactly. If we're going to fight a war, then we should fight a war. If we're going to go into it half way, we shouldn't go in at all.

We should have learned that lesson from Vietnam, but didn't.
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What we should of learned from Vietnam is not to go into wars unless we are 100% sure it's a war we should be in.
 
Thunder said:
we have no standards for hair length or style, facial hair, etc.

we have a basic dress code, that is enforced at the discretion of the supervisor.

if I don't come to work without leave enough times, I lose my job.

but I will NEVER be sent to prison....for not coming to work without leave.

UNLIKE IN THE MILITARY, HENCE MAKING YOUR ANALOGY STUPID & RIDICULOUS.
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So, that's the difference, to you? :lamo
 
Dittohead not! said:
Vietnam should have taught us that. Unfortunately, we didn't learn the lesson first time around.
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I guess, if you actually believe we shouldn't have been there...that is.
 
apdst said:
I guess, if you actually believe we shouldn't have been there...that is.
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The Gulf of Tonkein incident didn't happen, the domino theory didn't pan out, we lost the war, we didn't go in it to win, the war was never declared, the country was not behind the war effort, other than that, it was perfect.
 
Dittohead not! said:
The Gulf of Tonkein incident didn't happen, the domino theory didn't pan out, we lost the war, we didn't go in it to win, the war was never declared, the country was not behind the war effort, other than that, it was perfect.
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We used ****ty tactics. I agree with that.
 
apdst said:
We used ****ty tactics. I agree with that.
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Yes, we did, and we had no reason to be there in the first place. The Vietnamese should have been able to keep the independence that they won from the French without fighting for another 21 years in an unnecessary war.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Yes, we did, and we had no reason to be there in the first place. The Vietnamese should have been able to keep the independence that they won from the French without fighting for another 21 years in an unnecessary war.
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Blame the commies for that.
 
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