Rand Paul drops out. (1 Viewer)

[NonoBadDog]

Jalapeno dip... that way I always feel the bern. From beginning to end.

Come on ice cream.

 

[jonny5]

So let me get this straight, politicans who tell the public that the government is wasteful and are spending to much money then go and spend millions on a election campaign which they end after one state????

American politics hurts my head.

Govt takes money at gunpoint and spends it on things people dont need or want. Rand ASKS for money, and spend its on things those people want. Quitting is stupid though, and so is campaigning when hes supposed to be working in the Senate.

 

[poweRob]

Come on ice cream.

Jalapeno Ice Cream Recipes

 

[Gaius46]

I would like him better if he stopped endorsing the Republican Party. Not surprised though. We libertarians are only 1% of the country. Easier to take over a region politically and secede than try and change the US away from socialism. Even if Rand had won he wouldnt get anything done, and would only postpone things for 4 years.

Same applies for Bernie. He'd never get Congress to go along with much of what he says. In truth the same applies to any President wanting to make radical change who doesn't also own both houses of Congress. It's tough enough to tinker at the margins with the other party running the legislature.

 

[jonny5]

I was a Rand Paul supporter. I suppose my support will now go to Rubio. Cruz is a bit too far right for me....especially on fiscal policy.......his "Fair Tax" plan scares me. I also think Cruz has the wrong approach on foreign policy.....the "carpet bombing" statements make me a tad uneasy as well. So yeah....its Rubio for me.

Cruz's tax policy is:

10% flat income
16% flat business tax
a few deductions

How is that scary?

 

[jonny5]

Same applies for Bernie. He'd never get Congress to go along with much of what he says. In truth the same applies to any President wanting to make radical change who doesn't also own both houses of Congress. It's tough enough to tinker at the margins with the other party running the legislature.

Checks and balances for the win! Sadly the courts and people are failing in their checks.

 

[Oberon]

Didn't know he was even still in the race. I guess that means I won't miss him. Few 'Libertarians' are anything but con artists suckering clueless Burb Brats by pasting some faux political credibility over the pursuit of mindless self-indulgence; they are the right wing's equivalent of 'social justice warriors', only with a smaller vocabulary.

 

[NonoBadDog]

Jalapeno Ice Cream Recipes

Yuk. You need help bro.

 

[poweRob]

I would like him better if he stopped endorsing the Republican Party. Not surprised though. We libertarians are only 1% of the country. Easier to take over a region politically and secede than try and change the US away from socialism. Even if Rand had won he wouldnt get anything done, and would only postpone things for 4 years.

Two things here:

1) 19% of Americans Self-Identify as Libertarians, New Reuters Poll Finds
2) Taking over a region... Libertarians tried and are trying that. It's called the Free State Project. It's about trying to get libertarians to move to New Hampshire.

What you should be promoting is proportional representation. Kill the house of representative and implement a parliament where the house was. then 19% of the parliament would be libertarian.

 

[Gaius46]

Didn't know he was even still in the race. I guess that means I won't miss him. Few 'Libertarians' are anything but con artists suckering clueless Burb Brats by pasting some faux political credibility over the pursuit of mindless self-indulgence; they are the right wing's equivalent of 'social justice warriors', only with a smaller vocabulary.

I'd put my vocabulary up against anyone's.

 

[jonny5]

Two things here:

1) 19% of Americans Self-Identify as Libertarians, New Reuters Poll Finds
2) Taking over a region... Libertarians tried and are trying that. It's called the Free State Project. It's about trying to get libertarians to move to New Hampshire.

Polls are BS. And Free State might work. We'll see. Too cold for me though.

 

[jonny5]

I'd put my vocabulary up against anyone's.

Dont feed the trolls.

 

[tres borrachos]

He may gain traction if he can just hold on and the field thins so he isn't buried under the rest of them and can actually get seen. If I were advising him I'd have him CONSTANTLY saying "I'm a governor". That way people who don't know him see instantly learn of him as an executive. His name should never be seen or heard without "governor" right there with it. If a reporter called him Mr. Kasich or Kasich or such... I'd have him correcting them on the spot. "That's Governor Kasich."

Kasich, who I like a lot, announced today that he will drop out promptly after New Hampshire if he has a bad showing. I really like him. I also love what you say here. It's respectful to call him "Governor Kasich".

 

[tres borrachos]

I was a Rand Paul supporter. I suppose my support will now go to Rubio. Cruz is a bit too far right for me....especially on fiscal policy.......his "Fair Tax" plan scares me. I also think Cruz has the wrong approach on foreign policy.....the "carpet bombing" statements make me a tad uneasy as well. So yeah....its Rubio for me.

I just left an event with the Rubio people. It's amazing how many people all of a sudden are coming out in support of Rubio.

Thank you for NOT going to Trump.

 

[tres borrachos]

I have an idea. More of a where though.

I think I just saw a few of them in the Hooka Lounge in Manchester.

 

[SocialD]

Kasich, who I like a lot, announced today that he will drop out promptly after New Hampshire if he has a bad showing. I really like him. I also love what you say here. It's respectful to call him "Governor Kasich".

As I said in another thread ive heard a theory of Kasich hanging around a bit longer as a possible vp bid, he could very possibly deliver Ohio in the gen election , which is a key state quite often.

 

[Gill]

It only partially gets around the law. If Rand Paul had won the nomination he still couldn't run for both Senator and President so if he didn't win the presidency he would be standing in the unemployment line and collecting food stamps.

It gets around the law as much as they needed for the time being. If he became the Republican nominee, then he wouldn't really care about the Senate. I seriously doubt a well known and successful ophthalmologist would be collecting food stamps, although under Obama's lowered regulations he would probably qualify.

 

[tres borrachos]

As I said in another thread ive heard a theory of Kasich hanging around a bit longer as a possible vp bid, he could very possibly deliver Ohio in the gen election , which is a key state quite often.

My dream ticket is Rubio-Kasich and if Rubio gets the nod, I predict that is exactly what happened.

Just posted to you in the other thread what Kasich said today. If he does 3rd or better here, he will stay, but short of 3rd, he'll drop out right away. He actually has a very good chance at pulling 3rd here.

 

[SocialD]

My dream ticket is Rubio-Kasich and if Rubio gets the nod, I predict that is exactly what happened.

Just posted to you in the other thread what Kasich said today. If he does 3rd or better here, he will stay, but short of 3rd, he'll drop out right away. He actually has a very good chance at pulling 3rd here.

I could see NH going Trump, Rubio, Kasich, Cruz as the top 4 possibly.

 

[tres borrachos]

I could see NH going Trump, Rubio, Kasich, Cruz as the top 4 possibly.

The bloom seems to have fallen off Trump's rose. Funny, until last week all they ever talked about here was him. Now he's getting mentioned only after they talk about Rubio & Cruz. I think your top 4 may be right although I'd say Bush & Christie will give Kasich a run for his money.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

The bloom seems to have fallen off Trump's rose. Funny, until last week all they ever talked about here was him. Now he's getting mentioned only after they talk about Rubio & Cruz. I think your top 4 may be right although I'd say Bush & Christie will give Kasich a run for his money.

I think bush and his super pax intend to spend their financial resources by targeting Rubio.

 

[BloodRedKane]

Well - thats it - I'm throwing out my voter registration card I received in the mail yesterday.

I had to re-register because I refused to vote after Kucinich lost the 2008 Primary.

Watching the Presdiential Election on TV now - its like watching 'Charlies Angels'

after Farrah Fawcett left - its still on - but who gives a s__t.

All the candidates are just warmongers with mass graves and blood on their hands!:damn

 

[haymarket]

I think bush and his super pax intend to spend their financial resources by targeting Rubio.

You might be onto something. I saw Bush on TV today and to say he is taking Rubio very very personally is an understatement. This personal feud could doom the only chance the GOP really has to win in November. I wonder what happened between these two to cause such bitter enmity?

 

[Unitedwestand13]

You might be onto something. I saw Bush on TV today and to say he is taking Rubio very very personally is an understatement. This personal feud could doom the only chance the GOP really has to win in November. I wonder what happened between these two to cause such bitter enmity?

Must have been somthing to do with Florida politics.

 

[Fishking]

I'm guessing that a certain number of them will go to Cruz. Why do some of you ask? Because of Trump. Trump was horrible for many of the candidates. People will now go to the person that gives them the best chance at stopping him (Trump) from winning the primaries. The only reason why Rand would stay in is to help spread the message of liberty a little longer, but not to actually win. The numbers just weren't there.

If I were to say one thing positive about Cruz is that he's pretty handy in debates and would probably smash Hillary (but really, I think maybe anyone could do that) and do well against Bernie. As far as actual policy from Cruz, I don't see him being much different than what we've had for the past few decades.