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Racist Comment By L.A. City Council Prez Prompts Calls For Her Resignation

PeacefulWarrior said:
Well thats what you say, but in fact I have used the "slur" several times in regards to White people.
So: it can be said that people do indeed use the word to refer to people who are not black. How do we know what the intent was?
Meh. Tempest in a teapot imo.
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Playing stupid is not a good look. Be better.
 
Play stupid games win stupid prizes, regardless of the apology Nury Martinez should have known better.

About the only ounce of integrity she does have is stepping down as President of the Los Angeles City Council (there seems to be conflicting reports on stepping down as President or completely vacating the seat.)
 
Callen said:
She just did.....
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There are racists in both parties, but as a general rule, racism and other isms are tolerated far less among Democrats, if for no other reason than the fact it has a lot more diversity.
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
Well thats what you say, but in fact I have used the "slur" several times in regards to White people.
So: it can be said that people do indeed use the word to refer to people who are not black. How do we know what the intent was?
Meh. Tempest in a teapot imo.
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I think the context makes it obvious what she/they meant. The degree to which they are actually 'racist' can be debated, but it's pretty obvious that the discussion used racially-loaded language.

www.latimes.com

Racist remarks in leaked audio of L.A. council members spark outrage, disgust

A leaked recording of L.A. City Council members and a labor official includes racist remarks. Council President Nury Martinez apologizes; Councilmember Kevin de León expresses regret.
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During the conversation with Councilmembers Gil Cedillo and Kevin de León and Los Angeles County Federation of Labor President Ron Herrera, Martinez described Bonin at one point as a “little bitch,” according to a recording of the meeting reviewed by The Times.

Martinez also mocked Oaxacans and said “F— that guy … He’s with the Blacks” while speaking about Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. George Gascón.
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Along with revealing cruel and racist comments, the leaked audio offered a rare window into the behind-the-scenes machinations of the redistricting process and the bare-knuckled fighting between various groups trying to secure political power.
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“The context of this conversation was concern over the redistricting process and concern about the potential negative impact it might have on communities of color,” she added. “My work speaks for itself. I’ve worked hard to lead this city through its most difficult time.”
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Glad she resigned
minimum her comments were repulsive, bigoted and completely uncalled for a council member 🤷‍♂️
 
multivita-man said:
There are racists in both parties, but as a general rule, racism and other isms are tolerated far less among Democrats, if for no other reason than the fact it has a lot more diversity.
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It would be a rare white person indeed who harbors no racist thoughts or stereotypes.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Play stupid games win stupid prizes, regardless of the apology Nury Martinez should have known better.

About the only ounce of integrity she does have is stepping down as President of the Los Angeles City Council (there seems to be conflicting reports on stepping down as President or completely vacating the seat.)
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From my quick research, Martinez resigned as President, remains a member of City Council.

Annual salary in excess of 200K, four year term with more than two years left, decades of experience as an elected official with requisite skills at back room deals, I see her seeking refuge in her inner sanctum and strategizing over the next few days on how to keep her seat.

Can her enemies on the council drum up enough votes to suspend her? I doubt it.

Can non-elected opposition hound her out of office? I doubt it.

Can she quell any uproars among her constituents? I think she can.

I expect her to make it to the end of her term, then to assess her options. She has served on City Council since 2013. I don’t know if and when term limits come into play. She walloped all her competitors in the 2020 election.

She made gut-wrenching comments in that recorded call, much like Chump when he bragged about grabbing women by the *****. She did not expect that call to go public.
 
BitterPill said:
Lib-progs are weak. We in the MAGAsphere never apologize for the racist things we say, and we sure as hell don't resign.

MAGA.
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Well, yeah. It appeals to the base.
 
Fishking said:
According to the far left, minorities can't be racist, so as a Hispanic woman she couldn't have been racist. Also, since she's a female and the target of her comments is male, she's even lower on the victim hierarchy so extra nothing wrong with what she said
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About 90% of your posts are this same simple-minded, Tu Quoque drivel.
 
Fishking said:
According to the far left, minorities can't be racist, so as a Hispanic woman she couldn't have been racist. Also, since she's a female and the target of her comments is male, she's even lower on the victim hierarchy so extra nothing wrong with what she said.

OK...dispensing with leftist wacko ideology,
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BWHAHAHAHA another example of pure retarded triggered meltdown nutter lies that cant be backed up with any facts that make them true, this is everything wrong with politics right now

hell even here at DP ive only known one poster to say minorities can't be racist and he gets mocked by people right left and center for it because that claim is factually wrong
 
SkyChief said:
A racist comment made by Angeles City Council president Nury Martinez prompted calls for her removal.

Councilman Martinez allegedly referred to fellow councilman Mike Bonin's son who is Black as "ese changuito," which translates from Spanish to English as "that little monkey."

Martinez apologized for making the slur:

"In a moment of intense frustration and anger, I let the situation get the best of me and I hold myself accountable for these comments. For that I am sorry . The context of this conversation was concern over the redistricting process and concern about the potential negative impact it might have on communities of color. "

The apology didn't satisfy the target of her racism, and Council Bonin called the slur "disgusting", and is calling for Martinez immediate resignation:

"The I'm disgusted and angry and heartsick. It's fair game to attack me - but my son? You have to be pretty petty and insecure and venomous to attack a child. He wasn't even 3 years old. Other than that, I'm speechless." said Bonin.

source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/l...cvid=d83b3b04a2d7467bac238e5b2009ad16#image=1

I agree with Councilman Bonin on this. These racist slurs are unacceptable from ANY member of the City Council - - especially the president! Martinez should step down.
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Boot them out. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
 
Fishking said:
According to the far left, minorities can't be racist, so as a Hispanic woman she couldn't have been racist. Also, since she's a female and the target of her comments is male, she's even lower on the victim hierarchy so extra nothing wrong with what she said.
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You could at least make an attempt to be honest.
 
SkyChief said:
A racist comment made by Angeles City Council president Nury Martinez prompted calls for her removal.

Councilman Martinez allegedly referred to fellow councilman Mike Bonin's son who is Black as "ese changuito," which translates from Spanish to English as "that little monkey."

Martinez apologized for making the slur:

"In a moment of intense frustration and anger, I let the situation get the best of me and I hold myself accountable for these comments. For that I am sorry . The context of this conversation was concern over the redistricting process and concern about the potential negative impact it might have on communities of color. "

The apology didn't satisfy the target of her racism, and Council Bonin called the slur "disgusting", and is calling for Martinez immediate resignation:

"The I'm disgusted and angry and heartsick. It's fair game to attack me - but my son? You have to be pretty petty and insecure and venomous to attack a child. He wasn't even 3 years old. Other than that, I'm speechless." said Bonin.

source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/l...cvid=d83b3b04a2d7467bac238e5b2009ad16#image=1

I agree with Councilman Bonin on this. These racist slurs are unacceptable from ANY member of the City Council - - especially the president! Martinez should step down.
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Just yet another unmasking of the racist left, so in other words, no surprises.

I wonder how far the left logic contortionists will go to try and excuse it away?
 
eohrnberger said:
Just yet another unmasking of the racist left, so in other words, no surprises.

I wonder how far the left logic contortionists will go to try and excuse it away?
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Here's one of your many problems: you're so accustomed to how your people respond to bad behavior by right-wingers, that you knee-jerkingly assumed that others do the same. Read the thread, homeslice.
 
Redress said:
Who says this? I can think of one person who says it, and he is referring to organizational racism. I do not know anyone who says this.
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No...he's just saying racism. They have turn the stand alone term of racism into what we used to call institutional or systemic racism and say that minorities cannot be racist. Even when talking about systemic or institutional racism, minorities can do that to. This is what is being taught in sociology departments at university.

Myth of Reverse Racism — Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre

www.aclrc.com www.aclrc.com

"While assumptions and stereotypes about white people do exist, this is considered racial prejudice, not racism. Racial prejudice refers to a set of discriminatory or derogatory attitudes based on assumptions derived from perceptions about race and/or skin colour. Thus, racial prejudice can indeed be directed at white people (e.g., “White people can’t dance”) but is not considered racism because of the systemic relationship to power. "
Redress said:
My definition of racism is "the belief that one race is superior or inferior to other races". In this case, it does not necessarily fit the definition. I would label it not as racism, but as a racial slur(probably, intent does matter and we cannot know her intent). Saying it is (probably) not racism by my definition is not an excuse of what was said, nor does it make it any less bad. People get too hung up on labels. The comment was inappropriate and pretty bad, and the context mentioned in the thread does not change that. She should(and did) resign.
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Your definition is mostly OK, I'd add in just hating a particular race as well, feelings of superiority or not. It's interesting that you're making some distinction between a racial slur and racism. I don't think you can do that. A racial slur is racist. I think some people can use them and not be racist (e.g trying to be edgy or mad and saying something calculated to maximize hurt) but a lot of times it's going to be indicative of there something being there.
 
phoenix2020 said:
Congratulations on your tremendous and powerful owning of the left. Before you arrived, no one even knew that the left could be owned so strongly and with great strengthiness!
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You're not even original in your inanity.
 
JasperL said:
Well, "the left" did call her out, including the president of one of the largest university unions, and she resigned. That was quick. Seems like the right answer to me. As of now she's just resigned as president, but kept her seat. That might also change in the coming days and I wouldn't object.
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Yeah....what part did they get mad about? That's the key point.
 
Galactic Spin said:
About 90% of your posts are this same simple-minded, Tu Quoque drivel.
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*yawn*

Myth of Reverse Racism — Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre

www.aclrc.com www.aclrc.com

" While assumptions and stereotypes about white people do exist, this is considered racial prejudice, not racism. Racial prejudice refers to a set of discriminatory or derogatory attitudes based on assumptions derived from perceptions about race and/or skin colour. Thus, racial prejudice can indeed be directed at white people (e.g., “White people can’t dance”) but is not considered racism because of the systemic relationship to power."
 
Hamish Howl said:
You could at least make an attempt to be honest.
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OK....let me rephrase to the same thing I just said.

Myth of Reverse Racism — Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre

www.aclrc.com www.aclrc.com

"While assumptions and stereotypes about white people do exist, this is considered racial prejudice, not racism. Racial prejudice refers to a set of discriminatory or derogatory attitudes based on assumptions derived from perceptions about race and/or skin colour. Thus, racial prejudice can indeed be directed at white people (e.g., “White people can’t dance”) but is not considered racism because of the systemic relationship to power."
 
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