Pro-Lifers at what time limit would you be willing to set abortion? [W:244]

[AGENT J]

Proof by repeated, HEATED assertion! :lol:

is this even English lol
your desperation is showing

sorry you dont understand the fact that a ZEF is human(adj) life

please double down on your ignorance of this topic again and say its not, we are all laughing at your lack of intelligence on this topic

 

[JayDubya]

Should a person select any age...one is automatically considered to be PRO-MURDERER to you, Jay, and a couple of others. Bob, you never fail to disappoint. We all can rely on your continued rude and crude comments toward others...and you keep on getting away with it. So...carry on. The Mod God's are with ya...

I'm not sure quite how to respond to something this barmy.

But yes, Bob is correct. The people who have voted on this poll were not even nominally "pro-lifers" before they set foot in this thread. At this point, only pro-abortion extremists have voted. But they weren't supposed to do so - see poll / thread title.

If a "pro-lifer" were to vote on such a poll and mean it, they objectively wouldn't be. Which means, again, that there is no such thing as a person who can actually participate in this stupid poll.

 

[AGENT J]

I'm not sure quite how to respond to something this barmy.

But yes, Bob is correct. The people who have voted on this poll were not even nominally "pro-lifers" before they set foot in this thread. At this point, only pro-abortion extremists have voted. But they weren't supposed to do so - see poll / thread title.

If a "pro-lifer" were to vote on such a poll and mean it, they objectively wouldn't be. Which means, again, that there is no such thing as a person who can actually participate in this stupid poll.

i love that you doubled down on the inane idea that you think YOU get to decide who pro-lifers are

thank you for that illogical dishonest assumption, please keep them coming so we can continue the laughter

 

[cpwill]

This should be a multiple choice poll. I would check all the boxes. Every life is a life worth saving, and I will take any restriction I can get on this peculiar institution as soon as I can get it.

I would not settle on any of these options. But I would gladly support any of them.

 

[jmotivator]

OK DebatePolitics folks, how much poop will you allow in your ham sandwich?

0- 1 Cup
0- 3/4 Cup
0- 1/2 Cup
0- 1/4 Cup

VOTE NOW!!

 

[nota bene]

I'll be sure to ask Upton Sinclair for his advice on how to vote.

 

[JayDubya]

Where is that "Vegans how many steaks did you eat last week?" poll?

The only options should be multiples of 3, not including 0:
300
297
294
291
288

And then lots of people that regularly eat meat and never called themselves vegans should vote.

It'd be great. So informative.

 

[davidtaylorjr]

Pro-Lifers at what time limit would you be willing to set abortion?

24 weeks (Current 50% viability)
21 weeks (Earliest viability and when preterm starts)
18 weeks (Non-viable)
15 weeks
12 weeks (approx end of first trimester)

are any of these options acceptable to you?

0 days/weeks/minutes/etc

 

[nota bene]

Where is that "Vegans how many steaks did you eat last week?" poll?

The only options should be multiples of 3, not including 0:
300
297
294
291
288

And then lots of people that regularly eat meat and never called themselves vegans should vote.

It'd be great. So informative.

And purposeful too!

 

[AGENT J]

This should be a multiple choice poll. I would check all the boxes. Every life is a life worth saving, and I will take any restriction I can get on this peculiar institution as soon as I can get it.

I would not settle on any of these options. But I would gladly support any of them.

wow honesty

good post

 

[AGENT J]

awww the extreme disgruntled dishonest pro-lifers getting angry . . . who would have guessed that LMAO

like i said this is only for honest posters and poster who find an option, if not move along instead of having temper tantrums :lamo


wait . . . i take that back, actually keep posting them for further entertainment and exposure of your true colors

 

[mac]

It is no such thing, that is a religious belief.

It's not a religious belief. It is a growing, developing human organism....human life.

 

[mac]

Wow, you're not even consistent! You think a zygote is human, but killing it isn't murder. Cool!

It's not murder because it is legal.

 

[TiredOfLife]

It's not a religious belief. It is a growing, developing human organism....human life.

Developing is correct. It's when we cal it a person, like us, that is the question. Usually we call a cake a cake when we take it out of the oven and put icing on it.

 

[cpwill]

wow honesty

good post

No, JayDubya is also right - asking pro lifers to accept as a settled matter a certain portion of babies killed in the womb is akin to asking Jews to accept the legality of a certain level of pogroms, or women to accept that some levels of rape are acceptable and should be legalized. You cannot countenance the deliberate stripping of peoples' rights from them.

 

[AGENT J]

No, JayDubya is also right - asking pro lifers to accept as a settled matter a certain portion of babies killed in the womb is akin to asking Jews to accept the legality of a certain level of pogroms, or women to accept that some levels of rape are acceptable and should be legalized. You cannot countenance the deliberate stripping of peoples' rights from them.

sorry you dont get to make that decision :shrug:

there are in fact self identified pro-lifers here that are ok with abortion under better restrictions
just like there are pro-lifers here that are personally pro-life but dont want thier opinions forced on others
sorry you are wrong just like jay, neither of you have the authority to say who is or who isnt pro-life, facts defeat you

i can even fathom how you think its your choice, pompous positions like that of yours and his are one of the biggest problems with politics and thinking today.

also banning abortion is stripping of peoples rights :shrug: so thats always a losing battle, theres TWO lives involved you just cant ignore one because you find it convenient or view one as a lesser. Banning or granting abortions will ALWAYS strip rights away from the ZEF or woman, always, this fact will never change.

 

[AGENT J]

It's not a religious belief. It is a growing, developing human organism....human life.

correct it is human life, somehow i never thought id encounter anybody that didnt understand this fact but BOOM DP now official has one

 

[cpwill]

sorry you dont get to make that decision :shrug:

Actually I'm a citizen of the United States of America, so I live under a representative government, and so I do.

there are in fact self identified pro-lifers here that are ok with abortion under better restrictions
just like there are pro-lifers here that are personally pro-life but dont want thier opinions forced on others

Yeah. That's like being personally anti-slavery, but not against outlawing the institution itself.

also banning abortion is stripping of peoples rights :shrug: so thats always a losing battle, theres TWO lives involved you just cant ignore one because you find it convenient or view one as a lesser. Banning or granting abortions will ALWAYS strip rights away from the ZEF or woman, always, this fact will never change.

Sort of. We stripped quite a few southerners of their rights and property back in 1865; and we've stripped States of their rights to abuse people based on the color of their skin. The 'right' to harm and abuse others is shrinking over time. May it continue to do so.

 

[mac]

Developing is correct. It's when we cal it a person, like us, that is the question. Usually we call a cake a cake when we take it out of the oven and put icing on it.

Person is subjective, definable any way you like.

 

[AGENT J]

1.)Actually I'm a citizen of the United States of America, so I live under a representative government, and so I do.
2.)Yeah. That's like being personally anti-slavery, but not against outlawing the institution itself.
3.)Sort of. We stripped quite a few southerners of their rights and property back in 1865; and we've stripped States of their rights to abuse people based on the color of their skin. The 'right' to harm and abuse others is shrinking over time. May it continue to do so.

1.) translation: you have no logic to support thinking you get to make that decision.

you can have that OPINION and thats all it is and nothing more

2.) again you are free to have that opinions and your analogy fails because abortion is nothing like slavery lol

3.) not sorta its a fact on the abortion topic and again slavery analogies are the quickest failed illogical analogies to use to not be taken seriously

i can even fathom how you think its your choice, pompous positions like that of yours and his are one of the biggest problems with politics and thinking today. People assume they get to decide who republicans are, democrats are, Christians are etc etc its hilarious. You can have an opinion and nothing more.

 

[wbcoleman]

It's not a religious belief. It is a growing, developing human organism....human life.

It's living human tissue, OK?

 

[AGENT J]

0 days/weeks/minutes/etc

again see my response to the other extremists like BOB
"sorry the poll isnt for you . . .
I know there are prolifers out there that dont want to comprise, dont care about the womans life, dont care about the legal or human rights of the woman and you value the ZEF more.
This isn't for them, this is for people that care about BOTH lives, you dont. You have factually and clearly established this but thanks for your participation and proving it again."

it fits perfectly for you too

 

[TiredOfLife]

Person is subjective, definable any way you like.

Subjective like 'porn' or 'drug'? And we still make laws around it, which is why it very much matters. No person, no murder charge.

 

[wbcoleman]

sorry you dont get to make that decision :shrug:

there are in fact self identified pro-lifers here that are ok with abortion under better restrictions
just like there are pro-lifers here that are personally pro-life but dont want thier opinions forced on others
sorry you are wrong just like jay, neither of you have the authority to say who is or who isnt pro-life, facts defeat you

i can even fathom how you think its your choice, pompous positions like that of yours and his are one of the biggest problems with politics and thinking today.

also banning abortion is stripping of peoples rights :shrug: so thats always a losing battle, theres TWO lives involved you just cant ignore one because you find it convenient or view one as a lesser. Banning or granting abortions will ALWAYS strip rights away from the ZEF or woman, always, this fact will never change.

But the zygote has no rights, nor should it.

 

[AGENT J]

It's living human tissue, OK?

yes that is true
its also human(adj) life

its amazing that you dont even understand that our sentence above is identical to my sentences above meaning wise

ive repeated many times over and over for like 3 years that there is nobody here at DP or probably in america the denies the fact that a ZEF is human(adj) and its living and BOOM, here you are.

Are you really from the US, why do yo deny this fact?