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****** Any specifics on those wanting some new legislation I am not familiar with.

I've posted two links in this thread on the issue. You said you couln't open the first and you ignored the second.

***** You guys have difficulty with straight questions :( Here's one of them.

Says the guy who was just asked a specific question, but decided not to answer it.

******* Even if 2 Same Sex individuals are regular attendees at a given Church - have a valid State issued license - even if other denominations Marry Gays - that Church can legally refuse to Marry those Two forever and cannot be litigated against because of it by LAMBDA - the ACLU or any other group.

Based on the legislation being proposed in California, that Church would face no consequences for refusing to marry them. None. Zero. Ever.

***** No mater how Many Same Sex Marriages take place - No Church can be forced to comply . Is that corrcect ??? YES or NO

Correct.

***** Don't come back with the Forst Amendment . You say so.

What about the 1st amendment? I'm only talking about the proposed legislation in California that you refuse to read about because it doesn't coincide with your conspiracy views on gays. Here it is one more time...

Bill would let clergy refuse to marry gays

Either read it or shut up. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and you have no interest in educating yourself.
 
****** It's not a Conspiracy - it's an eventualityand it will be tried somewhere because it's the nature of some of those seeing this topic as the Highest priority.
 
****** Now that I've read it as initially stated it seems okay and I see that various Church's support it HOWEVER - Two Points - First Assemblymen Leno from his Day One in the Legislature has been focused on Gay Marriage like it's the Holy Grail. Therefore Pardon me if I am doubtful that he might stand by in the future even if this becomes law.

***** Secondly some Church's Will jump aboard in short order and Marry Gays - Unitarians, some Episcopals and some Reformed Jews . When that occurs and becomes routine THEN there might still exist a precedent - a vehicle for an opening to exist for some LAMBDA type group to sue and in the Bay area get a receptive judge - THEREFORE as of now ONLY a clear concise statement by LAMBDA and the ACLU insisting they will NEVER sue any Church will suffice and that I think there will be a reluctance to do.

**** Finally acording to Capt. Courtesy and others all my concerns about Church's being targeted along these lines was ridiculous and unwarranted - however the article YOU presented shows that all along in California many have had this concern so it wasn't just me. Therefore to say it was some bizarre paranoia on my part is a LIE.
 
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****** It's not a Conspiracy - it's an eventualityand it will be tried somewhere because it's the nature of some of those seeing this topic as the Highest priority.

Wow....dude, you are arguing that gays are out to get you despite clear evidence to the contrary. I take it back. You aren't a troll, you are flipping nuts.
 
***** I have no problem with it. I have a piece of paper stating that I'm basically sane . Not everybody has that.

I love that you added the qualifier, "basically".

I'm done though.

If posting evidence that indicates the exact opposite of what you are saying is not enough then there really isn't much more than I can do.

I guess I could get a sworn affidavit from the Godfather of the Gay Mafia indicating that the gay agenda will be amended so that overthrowing religious freedom is not a priority, but it's just so hard to get an appointment with him between his work at recruiting the children of public schools to the homosexual lifestyle and his church burnings. :mrgreen:
 
I love that you added the qualifier, "basically".

I'm done though.

If posting evidence that indicates the exact opposite of what you are saying is not enough then there really isn't much more than I can do.

I guess I could get a sworn affidavit from the Godfather of the Gay Mafia indicating that the gay agenda will be amended so that overthrowing religious freedom is not a priority, but it's just so hard to get an appointment with him between his work at recruiting the children of public schools to the homosexual lifestyle and his church burnings. :mrgreen:



***** It's not about overthrowing any Religion . It's all about making the unwilling conform. Those interested in this are not all Gay - BUT Most Gays if Truthful might have to admit that smacking the larger society in it's collective face is a good idea and justified - and you don't have to be a Flaming Queen or Tansevestite type to see it that way.
 
***** It's not about overthrowing any Religion . It's all about making the unwilling conform.

You have still yet to present anything that indicates this directive by anyone. When you do have something to present, please get back to us. Until then, you get filed in the "bat**** crazy" folder.
 
***** It's not about overthrowing any Religion . It's all about making the unwilling conform. Those interested in this are not all Gay - BUT Most Gays if Truthful might have to admit that smacking the larger society in it's collective face is a good idea and justified - and you don't have to be a Flaming Queen or Tansevestite type to see it that way.

I like that you know what most gays are thinking. If you have that psychic ability you must now be one hell of an interior decorator and fashion designer.
 
I like that you know what most gays are thinking. If you have that psychic ability you must now be one hell of an interior decorator and fashion designer.

And flortist. Don't forget florist.

And it also means he knows every Liza song by heart, too.
 
**** If I was Gay - I'd admit it - and that BTW is a Threshold of Truth a few on this board have yet to cross or face up to.
 
That's ok because I'm certainly not inclined to call YOU a conservativerist.




***** BUT I am a Conservative . Just not the type certain Secularists and Hedonists are comfortable with.
 
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