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Preteens To Get Vaccinated Without Parental Consent

roguenuke said:
There is a difference between being prescient and being informed.
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AAP says exclusive breastfeeding until 6 months old. Do pediatricians give parents that opt for formula a hard time? Do pediatricians tell parents to introduce solids earlier than that timeline?

No, pediatricians don’t harass women that opt not to breastfeed and I know plenty of Moms that were told to introduce food before 6 months.

They are guidelines. Guidelines are generalized advice. Every child is different, hence the recommendation to speak to your pediatrician.

Oh, and until the last several years, the AAP only recommended rear-facing in car seats until 2 years old, despite a body of medical evidence and safety studies that showed that that extended rear-facing is actually much safer. The AAP has since adjusted its recommendation to be rear-facing until height/weight limits are met for the car seat in that position.
 
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BirdinHand said:
AAP says exclusive breastfeeding until 6 months old. Do pediatricians give parents that opt for formula a hard time? Do pediatricians tell parents to introduce solids earlier than that timeline?

No, pediatricians don’t harass women that opt not to breastfeed and I know plenty of Moms that were told to introduce food before 6 months.

They are guidelines. Guidelines are generalized advice. Every child is different, hence the recommendation to speak to your pediatrician.
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I also never said they should harass their patients about those things, but there is a huge difference between breastfeeding, which can come with some very legitimate problems doing and vaccinating your child. But most likely the pediatricians are going to ask the mother about breastfeeding and her views on various things and make recommendations with those things in mind, including unfortunately whether the parents are anti-vaccines or have religious objections to certain treatments.

And why would pediatricians recommend introducing solids before 6 months, whether formula fed or breastfed?

This is a global pandemic. Those are recommendations based on public health and what is best for the vast majority of children. They also aren't nearly as limiting or time consuming as the vast majority of things that doctors recommend but parents don't completely follow.
 
americanwoman said:
Democrats? Sounds like it's not really a partisan thing you are making it seem to allow minors to get vaccinated

But yes, even though there are already laws about vaccinations and minor's right in Republican states, it's the Democrats who want to rule the children.
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After reading posts from Democrats today, regarding Sarah Palin's children, well, don't they?
 
Chomsky said:
The bolded is exactly the way I see it.

Barring evidence of neglect or abuse, no one - definitely not the state - has the right to tell us how to raise our unemancipated progeny. What's more important, then our kids? Is there a bond more strong or more sacred? For most, it even supersedes the bond of matrimony! How many live with some level of spousal abuse, until the day comes when the abuser lays a hand on the children? Then, they're out-of-there in a flash!
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I appreciate that you got back to the thread... Makes me feel good that someone else with good old fashioned midwest values agrees with little old me.
 
CharisRose said:
The Common denominator in all of those States Title X … Providing 2 different source links and snippets from each one.

prh.org

What Is Title X? An Explainer

KNOW YOUR FACTS TITLE X EXPLAINER What is Title X? The Title X Family Planning Program is a federal grant program created to provide comprehensive and confidential family planning services and preventive health services. Title X was first enacted in 1970 as a bipartisan bill designed to address...
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What is Title X?​

The Title X Family Planning Program is a federal grant program created in 1970 to provide comprehensive and confidential family planning services and preventive health services. Services provided include contraception counseling and provision, breast and cervical cancer screenings, testing and treatment for sexually transmitted infections, and pregnancy diagnosis and counseling.

Title X is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Population Affairs (OPA). The program prioritizes serving people and families with low-incomes and is implemented through grants to over 3500 clinical sites, including public health departments and non-profit health centers.

www.kff.org

Rebuilding Title X: New Regulations for the Federal Family Planning Program | KFF

This analysis highlights state-level data on the status of the Title X family planning program on the eve of the implementation of the new Biden Administration regulations for the program.
www.kff.org www.kff.org

On October 4, 2021, the Biden Administration released new final regulations for the federal Title X family planning program. The new regulations replace those issued by the Trump Administration in 2019, which made significant and well documented changes to the Title X program leading to a significant reduction in the size of the Title X network and the number of low-income and uninsured clients served by the program. This brief presents new state-level data on the status of the Title X network on the eve of the implementation of the new regulations and summarizes the impact of Trump era regulations on the number of clients served and status of participation by clinics across the country.

3rd link no snippets. https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/title-x-family-planning-program-1970-1977
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Set, match, game! Wonder why @americanwoman hasn't responded yet...:unsure:
 
trixare4kids said:
Set, match, game! Wonder why @americanwoman hasn't responded yet...:unsure:
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For one thing title X has nothing to do with minors and consent.

CharisRose said:
The Common denominator in all of those States Title X … Providing 2 different source links and snippets from each one.

prh.org

What Is Title X? An Explainer

KNOW YOUR FACTS TITLE X EXPLAINER What is Title X? The Title X Family Planning Program is a federal grant program created to provide comprehensive and confidential family planning services and preventive health services. Title X was first enacted in 1970 as a bipartisan bill designed to address...
prh.org prh.org

What is Title X?​

The Title X Family Planning Program is a federal grant program created in 1970 to provide comprehensive and confidential family planning services and preventive health services. Services provided include contraception counseling and provision, breast and cervical cancer screenings, testing and treatment for sexually transmitted infections, and pregnancy diagnosis and counseling.

Title X is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Population Affairs (OPA). The program prioritizes serving people and families with low-incomes and is implemented through grants to over 3500 clinical sites, including public health departments and non-profit health centers.

www.kff.org

Rebuilding Title X: New Regulations for the Federal Family Planning Program | KFF

This analysis highlights state-level data on the status of the Title X family planning program on the eve of the implementation of the new Biden Administration regulations for the program.
www.kff.org www.kff.org

On October 4, 2021, the Biden Administration released new final regulations for the federal Title X family planning program. The new regulations replace those issued by the Trump Administration in 2019, which made significant and well documented changes to the Title X program leading to a significant reduction in the size of the Title X network and the number of low-income and uninsured clients served by the program. This brief presents new state-level data on the status of the Title X network on the eve of the implementation of the new regulations and summarizes the impact of Trump era regulations on the number of clients served and status of participation by clinics across the country.

3rd link no snippets. https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/title-x-family-planning-program-1970-1977
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Title X is the only federal grant program dedicated solely to providing individuals with comprehensive family planning and related preventive health services. It says nothing about vaccinations and minors.

States like Alabama have it in their laws and have nothing to do with Title X.

law.justia.com

2013 Code of Alabama :: Title 22 - HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH, AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL. :: Title 1 - HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL GENERALLY. :: Section 22-8-4 - When minor may give consent generally.

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Universal Citation: AL Code § 22-8-4 (2013)
Section 22-8-4When minor may give consent generally.
Any minor who is 14 years of age or older, or has graduated from high school, or is married, or having been married is divorced or is pregnant may give effective consent to any legally authorized medical, dental, health or mental health services for himself or herself, and the consent of no other person shall be necessary.

(Acts 1971, No. 2281, p. 3681, §1.)
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americanwoman said:
For one thing title X has nothing to do with minors and consent.




Title X is the only federal grant program dedicated solely to providing individuals with comprehensive family planning and related preventive health services. It says nothing about vaccinations and minors.

States like Alabama have it in their laws and have nothing to do with Title X.

law.justia.com

2013 Code of Alabama :: Title 22 - HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH, AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL. :: Title 1 - HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL GENERALLY. :: Section 22-8-4 - When minor may give consent generally.

law.justia.com law.justia.com
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All of the VAXTEENS links for Alabama, Louisiana, North Carolina and Tennessee posted in the original post I responded to…

There is a connection. All 4 had the following What this means: explanation and all 4 had the same Note:

What this means:​

In Alabama, minors who are 14 years old or older or have graduated from high school do not need their parent’s consent to receive all healthcare services, including vaccinations

In Louisiana, minors of any age do not need their parent’s consent to receive any medical care they deem necessary, including vaccinations.

In North Carolina, minors of any age do not need their parent’s consent to receive all healthcare services, including vaccinations.

In Tennessee, minors who are 14 years old or older do not need their parent’s consent to receive all healthcare services, including vaccinations. This is called a “mature minor doctrine” and essentially means that if you talk to your doctor/healthcare provider and they decide you are “mature enough” to make your own health care decisions, you can.

Note: Minors can receive some health care services without parental consent in Title X-funded clinics. Call a nearby clinic to see if they will administer vaccinations without parental consent or your state health department for more information.

Find clinics near you below.
 
BlueTex said:
My god editorial standards have gotten low...


Other states, like Philadelphia and Washington, D.C.


Neither is a state...
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^---Look guys! We found someone who doesn't have a valid point.
 
CharisRose said:
All of the VAXTEENS links for Alabama, Louisiana, North Carolina and Tennessee posted in the original post I responded to…

There is a connection. All 4 had the following What this means: explanation and all 4 had the same Note:

What this means:​

In Alabama, minors who are 14 years old or older or have graduated from high school do not need their parent’s consent to receive all healthcare services, including vaccinations

In Louisiana, minors of any age do not need their parent’s consent to receive any medical care they deem necessary, including vaccinations.

In North Carolina, minors of any age do not need their parent’s consent to receive all healthcare services, including vaccinations.

In Tennessee, minors who are 14 years old or older do not need their parent’s consent to receive all healthcare services, including vaccinations. This is called a “mature minor doctrine” and essentially means that if you talk to your doctor/healthcare provider and they decide you are “mature enough” to make your own health care decisions, you can.

Note: Minors can receive some health care services without parental consent in Title X-funded clinics. Call a nearby clinic to see if they will administer vaccinations without parental consent or your state health department for more information.

Find clinics near you below.
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We are seeing why they want universal health care.
 
trixare4kids said:

Democrats replacing parents? Is this really the direction we want to take?
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One of the main goals of modern liberalism is the destruction of the family. They see kids as wards of the state, not children under the guardianship of the parents.
 
HennyBogan said:
www.thegatewaypundit.com

Fauci Proposes Three Shot Series for Babies 6-Months-Old Up to Children 4-Years-Old (Video) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Fauci wants to stick the babies three times with the experimental COVID shots.
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Fazi wants to turn babies into junkies! This guy is a narcissist monster who needs to be blown away
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Totally! Never, ever had I heard about a baby getting vaccinated.

Except of course, all of these:

www.cdc.gov

Immunization Schedules for 18 & Younger

View and print CDC recommended immunization schedules.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
 
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