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WASHINGTON – Congressional leaders plan to be at the White House on Wednesday, but it's hard to say how much negotiating will be going on as the partial government shutdown enters its 12th day.
Congressional officials have described the meeting as an informational session on border security, the issue at the heart of the budget impasse that created the shutdown; the White House schedule said only that Trump will participate "in a border security briefing for congressional leadership" to be held in the Situation Room.
Source: (USA Today) President Trump, Democratic lawmakers brace for White House meeting on government shutdown
I think it's interesting that the White House is not calling this a "negotiation" meeting, but rather a "border security briefing for congressional leadership". And it's being held in the Situation Room, of all places.
Please excuse my skepticism, but after the last Trump-Pelosi-Schumer meeting, I'm a bit suspicions this "information session" will be a reality-show infomercial. Let's hope not.
So will it be a stunt? A substantive discussion? What will come out of it?
We shall see ...
Trump won't get his wall. The House and Senate will pass a continuing resolution with the bill they already voted on with a veto proof majority. He won't have any say in the matter. That's been known since the beginning. The only one that doesn't appear to comprehend that is Trump.
Honestly, I have no idea what Trump may do. He is too impetuous and lacking in judgment.I would certainly imagine negotiation would be happening, though it's certainly not going to end up being a public cluster**** again seeing as that didn't work out very well for Trump the last time.
That's exactly why he should get nothing, unless the Dems extract their pound of flesh. He needs to see pulling-off this shenanigan leaves him in a worst place. For every penny I give him, I'd get two times more. Want more than the $1.3B? Then, cough-up DACA!Of course he won't get his wall. If he did Trump would know that he could shut down the government every few months to get absolutely anything he wants.
That's exactly why he should get nothing, unless the Dems extract their pound of flesh. He needs to see pulling-off this shenanigan leaves him in a worst place. For every penny I give him, I'd get two times more. Want more than the $1.3B? Then, cough-up DACA!
I didn't type that in my reply, but I was thinking something close or similar. But I think perhaps he should be presented with a bad option (DACA), to drive the point home. Though I do think Pelosi would recognize and take an advantageous deal, if she can get it.And seeing as his base hates immigrants with the fire of a thousand burning suns, he knows he can't give that. I see no outcome that isn't him just agreeing to reopen government eventually with the House's bill.
Source: (USA Today) President Trump, Democratic lawmakers brace for White House meeting on government shutdown
I think it's interesting that the White House is not calling this a "negotiation" meeting, but rather a "border security briefing for congressional leadership". And it's being held in the Situation Room, of all places.
Please excuse my skepticism, but after the last Trump-Pelosi-Schumer meeting, I'm a bit suspicions this "information session" will be a reality-show infomercial. Let's hope not.
So will it be a stunt? A substantive discussion? What will come out of it?
We shall see ...
I didn't type that in my reply, but I was thinking something close or similar. But I think perhaps he should be presented with a bad option (DACA), to drive the point home. Though I do think Pelosi would recognize and take an advantageous deal, if she can get it.
Meanwhile, Pelosi needs to get to work on punishing the GOP Senate with bill after bill. If she can't get to Trump, she needs to peel-off the GOP Senate. They'll never publicly rebuke Trump, but with enough pressure they may be forced to intervene behind-closed-doors to provide Trump a pathway out of his hole.
I hope they do. I'm a firm believer in government transparency, and I believe televised meetings and hearings are an important part of that.They should televise the meeting since we can't all be flies on the wall.
Some have theorized that backroom deals are being made for hm to resign and avoid charges. I think that's exactly what's going on now. I bet Trump himself is the hold out, wanting to believe he can quash the investigations and trimph. I think he'll fight it till the end, but I think right now McConnel is acting the loyalist part, while other factions work on getting Trump to accept the inevitable, that his presidency will end by or before the 2020 election or he will face music he doesn't want to face.
I think even the GOP internally knws how doomed the Trump ship is. All efforts are being made to show confidence in the administration, but internally the GOP is running scared.
I hope they do. I'm a firm believer in government transparency, and I believe televised meetings and hearings are an important part of that.
Well, that's an interesting concept.Some have theorized that backroom deals are being made for hm to resign and avoid charges. I think that's exactly what's going on now. I bet Trump himself is the hold out, wanting to believe he can quash the investigations and trimph. I think he'll fight it till the end, but I think right now McConnel is acting the loyalist part, while other factions work on getting Trump to accept the inevitable, that his presidency will end by or before the 2020 election or he will face music he doesn't want to face.
I think even the GOP internally knws how doomed the Trump ship is. All efforts are being made to show confidence in the administration, but internally the GOP is running scared.
Well, that's an interesting concept.
But he has so much possible criminal and civil exposure throughout his family, associates, and org & foundation, from various departments and governmental entities, that I can't believe anyone can give him a pass for the whole mess.
Well, that's an interesting concept.
But he has so much possible criminal and civil exposure throughout his family, associates, and org & foundation, from various departments and governmental entities, that I can't believe anyone can give him a pass for the whole mess.
Well from the Cohen plea allocution, it seems to me SDNY has little choice but to indict him once he leaves office.Oh I think that's the biggest reason he doesn't want to go. I have a feeling his cost will be financial only. I think he's worried about that, thinks he can slide on all this. He probably can charges wise, but this is gonna cost him financially no matter what, he's holding on to some insane dream he can both avoid charges and profit financially. I really do think he's being pushed to resign and is holding out stubbornly. I don't think it will take much time for the Democratic house to hammer him into submission by subpoena.
Others have theorized he'd cut a deal to save his family. Mayeb Ivanka, but IDK if even that matters to King TangFace. I think his own ass and image is really all he cares about.
Interesting that now during Trump's live monologue, he is now saying DACA is a good thing and most Republicans like it and want it!And seeing as his base hates immigrants with the fire of a thousand burning suns, he knows he can't give that. I see no outcome that isn't him just agreeing to reopen government eventually with the House's bill.
Interesting that now during Trump's live monologue, he is now saying DACA is a good thing and most Republicans like it and want it!
How about that?
I bet Rush, Ann, and Laura, will remind him they don't like DACA.
Not true at all. The last meeting was televised and they outmaneuvered Trump in front of an audience. It was reported that he was so mad that he kicked furniture.Of course, Chuck and Nancy would be pissed if it is. They love the dark.
Sounds like a bit of political salesmanship. He is framing this as a national security issue. Now he is posturing that he is serious about it. He is briefing congressional leadership of the threat in the situation room implying that a military response may be coming.Source: (USA Today) President Trump, Democratic lawmakers brace for White House meeting on government shutdown
I think it's interesting that the White House is not calling this a "negotiation" meeting, but rather a "border security briefing for congressional leadership". And it's being held in the Situation Room, of all places.
Please excuse my skepticism, but after the last Trump-Pelosi-Schumer meeting, I'm a bit suspicions this "information session" will be a reality-show infomercial. Let's hope not.
So will it be a stunt? A substantive discussion? What will come out of it?
We shall see ...
Interesting that now during Trump's live monologue, he is now saying DACA is a good thing and most Republicans like it and want it!
How about that?
I bet Rush, Ann, and Laura, will remind him they don't like DACA.
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