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[clownboy]

to some people this story is about racism. But it was evident not in zimmerman's actions, but the system of justice for allowing zimmerman's attorneys to portray Trayvon as a sterotypical black hoodlum and thug, bringing up Martins school history, personal images on his cell phone, and information about how he stole some jewelry.

On the other hand the prosecution was not able use Zimmerman prior history of repeatedly calling the police to report African American's that he viewed as suspicious.

to some people, this trial ended up with Martin viewed as the criminal, not the victim.

Which of course is totally false. Are you sure you followed the trial and didn't just read the mountains of crap floating around the internet. The fact that Martin was stoned at the time was excluded from trial. If the point was to portray Martin as a garden variety street thug (pretty common for the defense to do in a case like this regardless of whether the "victim" is white or black) the judge would have included that evidence.

And calling Martin a victim shows your extreme bias to begin with. Zimmerman was found not guilty due to self defense. By definition that means Martin was not the victim.

 

[CanadaJohn]

to some people this story is about racism. But it was evident not in zimmerman's actions, but the system of justice for allowing zimmerman's attorneys to portray Trayvon as a sterotypical black hoodlum and thug, bringing up Martins school history, personal images on his cell phone, and information about how he stole some jewelry.

On the other hand the prosecution was not able use Zimmerman prior history of repeatedly calling the police to report African American's that he viewed as suspicious.

to some people, this trial ended up with Martin viewed as the criminal, not the victim.

I wasn't 100% focused on the trial, but what you've posted here, I believe, is blatantly false. It's perhaps why some people believe that the verdict was wrong and that the case was about race.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

if one removes the fact that Obama is president of the united states, he is also a father and African American. he can relate to what African American youth have to go through in life, always under suspicion and being stereotyped as a hoodlum or thug just by how he looks. maybe some people would understand why african Americans are upset if they could put themselves in Trayvon martins Postion, or understand what he had to go through based on other peoples perception of him.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

I wasn't 100% focused on the trial, but what you've posted here, I believe, is blatantly false. It's perhaps why some people believe that the verdict was wrong and that the case was about race.

some people were emotionally invested in this case. many of them could relate to the martins loss.

 

[clownboy]

if one removes the fact that Obama is president of the united states, he is also a father and African American. he can relate to what African American youth have to go through in life, always under suspicion and being stereotyped as a hoodlum or thug just by how he looks. maybe some people would understand why african Americans are upset if they could put themselves in Trayvon martins Postion, or understand what he had to go through based on other peoples perception of him.

I am one of many who would love to remove the fact that Obama is the POTUS, but that's not likely to happen. Doesn't matter one whit what else he is, he IS the POTUS and that comes first over everything else in his life until he's not the POTUS. He knows this. You should too.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Which of course is totally false. Are you sure you followed the trial and didn't just read the mountains of crap floating around the internet. The fact that Martin was stoned at the time was excluded from trial. If the point was to portray Martin as a garden variety street thug (pretty common for the defense to do in a case like this regardless of whether the "victim" is white or black) the judge would have included that evidence.

And calling Martin a victim shows your extreme bias to begin with. Zimmerman was found not guilty due to self defense. By definition that means Martin was not the victim.

Trayvon martin was the victim of a gunshot, he lost his life.

 

[Erod]

Isn't it sweet how our bastard of a president continues to inject himself into an isolated case in Florida just to stir up racism, all the while completely ignoring the multitudes of black-on-white crime that actually was criminal?

Obama is a stone cold racist himself. As is Holder.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

I am one of many who would love to remove the fact that Obama is the POTUS, but that's not likely to happen. Doesn't matter one whit what else he is, he IS the POTUS and that comes first over everything else in his life until he's not the POTUS. He knows this. You should too.

is a president capable of empathy a problem? is wrong for him to relate to the martins and acknowledge their grief?

 

[Josie]

Trayvon martin was the victim of a gunshot, he lost his life.

And many husbands who were beating the **** out of their wives are dead too. Loss of life doesn't necessarily equal "innocent victim".

 

[instagramsci]

A black man wants to express something about racism and is treated this way by the Right? Color me surprised.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

And many husbands who were beating the **** out of their wives are dead too. Loss of life doesn't necessarily equal "innocent victim".

we will never truely know if Trayvon martin was truely innocent, for the dead cannot speak or defend their actions while alive. but he lost his life, that makes him a victim of fate.

 

[SgtRock]

We, collectively, can't agree on much as it relates to Zimmerman/Martin, but I can agree that I wish this had happened 35 years ago and that Obama had been Martin.

What CJ said. Just think of all the grief that would have saved us

 

[clownboy]

is a president capable of empathy a problem? is wrong for him to relate to the martins and acknowledge their grief?

Yes, in the way he's doing it. He's siding with the one who was found to be the aggressor and further fanning the flames making this into a racial dustup. That's wrong enough when self-aggrandizing degenerates like Sharpton do it, it's absolutely heinous when the POTUS does it.

 

[CanadaJohn]

some people were emotionally invested in this case. many of them could relate to the martins loss.

Being emotionally involved doesn't mean you're entitled to blatantly falsify the evidence presented in the case. As with a rape case, the defense here was not allowed to bring into evidence the character and/or history of Martin. It would only be relevant and brought into the case if the prosecution had put on witnesses to give character references for Martin or if there was some prior interaction between Zimmerman and Martin.

Everyone can be emotional and saddened by the loss of a young man's life, irrespective of the evidence in the case. It is, however, your loss of contact with the reality of the case, and others like you, that wrongly brought this matter to trial in the first place, particularly as a second degree murder case, and it is your loss of contact with the reality of the case, and others like you, that perpetuates a false narrative of the case and it's outcome. Neither of which does anything to further the discussion of either race relations or stand your ground laws - both of which were not part of this case.

 

[Fenton]

is a president capable of empathy a
problem? is wrong for him to relate to
the martins and acknowledge their grief?

Every mother mourns their son. The President singling out this issue and ignoring the mass violence in South Chicago sure makes him look like a hypocritical douche.

In 2013, the largest threat to a young black male is not a " white hispanic " or the KKK or white people or " the man".

Its another black male.

When is the left REALLY going to give a rats ass about Black people and stop manipulating them ?

 

[clownboy]

A black man wants to express something about racism and is treated this way by the Right? Color me surprised.

Except in this case he's NOT a black man but the President of the United States. Nixon wasn't black or a liberal and it was just as heinous when he commented upon the Manson trial while in progress. He learned his lesson and shut up about it thereafter. Obama doesn't appear to be as smart as Nixon in this regard.

 

[Josie]

Listen to what these analysts and politicians are saying.

1. They're lying about this being about race (so that it will keep people's attention and keep the momentum up).

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2. They're lying about this being about the SYG laws.

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3. More gun control!

 

[clownboy]

we will never truely know if Trayvon martin was truely innocent, for the dead cannot speak or defend their actions while alive. but he lost his life, that makes him a victim of fate.

Want some tissues to go with that weeping racial guilt? Fate? He made the choice to be the aggressor and paid the full price for it.

 

[instagramsci]

Except in this case he's NOT a black man but the President of the United States. Nixon wasn't black or a liberal and it was just as heinous when he commented upon the Manson trial while in progress. He learned his lesson and shut up about it thereafter. Obama doesn't appear to be as smart as Nixon in this regard.

He's a black man and the President. I don't see how he stopped being a black man after becoming president.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Yes, in the way he's doing it. He's siding with the one who was found to be the aggressor and further fanning the flames making this into a racial dustup. That's wrong enough when self-aggrandizing degenerates like Sharpton do it, it's absolutely heinous when the POTUS does it.

we do not know how trayvon's life would have Panned out if he had lived. it is easy to portray someone in a negative light when the person being protrayed can not speak or defend himself.

 

[KLATTU]

A black man wants to express something about racism and is treated this way by the Right? Color me surprised.

Fine. He can say that. But why doesn't he address the real reason young black males might followed by neighborhood watch people?
Is it JUST beacuse of racism? Or do we continue the liberal pretend game and pretend that blacks don't commit more crimes? And they certainly did in Twin Lakes.

And it is pretty certain Martin just wasn't walking home froma store. minding his business.

 

[Bronson]

why can't obama have a opinion on this story?

Why can't Obama unite the country instead of dividing it?

 

[Josie]

What he should have done is comment on all of the actual hateful gun violence (not self-defense) in Chicago, what creates that atmosphere and what we can do about it.

 

[CanadaJohn]

we will never truely know if Trayvon martin was truely innocent, for the dead cannot speak or defend their actions while alive. but he lost his life, that makes him a victim of fate.

To believe that Martin was simply a victim of fate, one has to believe that Zimmerman is a psychopathic, stalking, black youth hating, assassin. You have to believe that Zimmerman injured/bloodied himself, broke his own nose, and hunted down a black teenager he didn't know and coldly murdered him, in the middle of a residential complex with apparently five or six witnesses.

I'm not naive enough to believe that scenario.

 

[instagramsci]

Fine. He can say that. But why doesn't he address the real reason young black males might followed by neighborhood watch people?
Is it JUST beacuse of racism? Or do we continue the liberal pretend game and pretend that blacks don't commit more crimes?

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