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So now liberals are concerned with religious freedom? Well thank goodness that it isn't a Christian church we are speaking of, the argument would probably be 180 degrees turned around.
BTW, can you answer why this Mosque is being fast tracked, while St. Nicholas is being stonewalled?
j-mac
Straw man and straw man.
Relevance?
Christian churches can be built anywhere they want to as long as they follow zoning laws. Liberals are 100 % consistent on this. Nice spin though.
Do you even know what a straw man is?Just wondering outloud....Si if it is a straw man argument, do you then concede that if the tables were turned you'd be arguing against the Christian church? Just curious.
Hell if I know. Are you alleging some sort of swarthy conspiracy?the relevance is that there is a Greek Orthodox Church that has been established in this area for decades, was damaged by 9/11, and is meeting with flack over getting permits to rebuild, meanwhile the Mosque gets the immediate green light? Why?
Do you lefties even consider the victims of the families of the people murdered on 9/11? It would be like a kick in the gut to build a mosque at or near thatsite...........
Uh huh...Tell that to those in CA concerning that Cross that had to be taken down. Tell that to the parishioners of St Nicholas church NYC.
j-mac
They don't.
There's only one way to find out.
\Relevance?
the people with whom mr rauf is attempting to strengthen ties don't matter, huh?
interesting...
go for it, build the mosque in open defiance of the sentiments of those to whom you wish to reach out
"find out" what will happen, by all means
Do you lefties even consider the victims of the families of the people murdered on 9/11? It would be like a kick in the gut to build a mosque at or near thatsite...........
the relevance is that there is a Greek Orthodox Church that has been established in this area for decades, was damaged by 9/11, and is meeting with flack over getting permits to rebuild, meanwhile the Mosque gets the immediate green light? Why?
j-mac
So yeah, it's a totally different circumstance and thus irrelevant. But nice try with the red herring. :sarcasticclap\
Um because they already owned this property, already had a church on this property, and only want to rebuild the church that was destroyed by the 9-11 attacks, seems kind of assbackwards that the people supporting this Mosque had to buy the property, didn't have a Mosque there prior to 9-11, and were allowed to build the Mosque and yet the Greeks are being denied the right to rebuild their Church. If this was about property rights and religious freedom rather than PC bull**** where the left now laughably claims a rightous belief in the unshakable sanctity of property rights, then where's the outcry over the plight of the Greek Orthodox Church?
I know where the probability stands, do you?
Not sure what you're referring to.
Not sure what you're referring to.
of course, relations will worsen
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Um because they already owned this property, already had a church on this property, and only want to rebuild the church that was destroyed by the 9-11 attacks, seems kind of assbackwards that the people supporting this Mosque had to buy the property, didn't have a Mosque there prior to 9-11, and were allowed to build the Mosque and yet the Greeks are being denied the right to rebuild their Church.
So New Yorkers will end up hating Muslims worse and eventually want to do bad things to them. That pretty much accomplishes what you're after in the first place. If I were you, I'd definitely want the mosque built just to get everyone all good n' pissed off.of course, relations will worsen
So yeah, it's a totally different circumstance and thus irrelevant. But nice try with the red herring. :sarcasticclap
Not sure what you're referring to.
Tell that to the parishioners of St Nicholas church NYC.
Funding them? Hell they just attacked them.....
j-mac
www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/nyregion...erence/Times Topics/People/B/Bagli, Charles V
No Church at Ground Zero, Yet Faith and Hope Persist - City Room Blog - NYTimes.com
Nine years later, church at Ground Zero still not rebuilt, but mad rush to build Islamic supremacist mega-mosque - Jihad Watch
j-mac
The Greek Orthodox Church of St. Nicholas that was destroyed in the 9-11 attacks, the Greeks are not being allowed to rebuild their church on property they already owned and that had already had a church on it. Look I support the right of these people to build their Mosque, likewise I support protesting the hell out of it, but if those on the left now claiming their undying belief in the sanctity of property rights and religious tolerance weren't just using them as a cover for their multiculturalist east = good, west = bad, bull****, then where the hell were their cries of indignation for the Greek Christians? I guess that didn't rank on their outrage meter's because they weren't the right religion and not a dark enough shade of brown.
Actually, now that I think about it, some people on the right don't really think that highly of families of the victims, unless their opinions align with theirs:
See, I can play the partisan game too!
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