I wonder if he gave his victim a vote on how she died.WASHINGTON (AP) – The Supreme Court's latest clash over the death penalty involves the lethal chemical cocktail used by many states and whether it is an unnecessarily cruel way to die.
The high court temporarily stopped a Missouri execution early Wednesday so justices could consider a last-minute appeal. A few hours later, Vernon Brown was put to death, after justices lifted the stay.
The 5-4 vote was illustrative of the court's sharp division on the death penalty. Earlier this year, by the same vote, the justices issued a landmark ruling barring executions of juvenile killers on grounds they were cruel and unusual punishment.
Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion on that case; in the Brown case, he voted to allow the execution.
Brown was convicted of strangling a 9-year-old girl with a rope after luring her into his home as she walked home from school in 1986. His lawyers contended his execution would be cruel because the drug combination of sodium pentathal, pancuronium bromide and potassium chloride can paralyze inmates before subjecting them to suffocation, a burning sensation and a heart attack.
SourceLethal injection is used in 37 states because it is considered more humane than options like the gas chamber and hanging. Chemical solutions vary some by state.
Squawker said:I don’t think we need to have any court discussion of the humane way to execute a cold blooded murderer. I vote for the same method he used to kill the victim.
I wonder if he gave his victim a vote on how she died.
Squawker said:I don’t think we need to have any court discussion of the humane way to execute a cold blooded murderer. I vote for the same method he used to kill the victim.
I wonder if he gave his victim a vote on how she died.
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Squawker said:I don’t think we need to have any court discussion of the humane way to execute a cold blooded murderer. I vote for the same method he used to kill the victim.
I highly agree with this but I think they should have to feel more pain than the person they killed.
Same here, a being is a being and no matter what they did, they should not face what I consider inhumane treatment. Do they become un-human when they kill someone? Debatable, but the fact remains that they still have given rights and one of them is not to face inhumane treatment, which I consider the death penalty. Lock them up, make them think about what they have done, make sure they never get out onto the street again and as an added bonus, show that society really values a being's life.GarzaUK said:Some people on this forum disturb me. lol :shock:
LaMidRighter said:I believe in public hanging like they did in the good ol' days. Execution is the only punishment shown to have a zero recidivism rate. My only problem is that we don't use execution for enough offenses. I am not saying that we should expand it to the point of being ridiculous, but rapists, murderers, child molesters, and other dangerous beings like those should get death. Hell, in Louisiana there are two crimes punishible by law, 1st degree murder(or second, might have gotten them mixed up) and forcible rape of a minor under 12.
The government is already involved with murder via abortion. At least the criminal is guilty enough to deserve such harsh punishment. If the appeals process wasn't so long, we would save money.My main problem with capital punishment is that it makes a murderer out of the government. It makes my tax money go toward such an effort of "eye for an eye," an idea that I personally believe will not solve any problem.
Yeah, that damned appeals process...oh, wait, what about evidence coming out...oh, yeah you are right about it all, forgive everything good sir. And that genetic evidence that wouldn't have come out if the process was streamlined and the murders put to dea....yeah, you are right.Squawker said:LaMidRighter !
The government is already involved with murder via abortion. At least the criminal is guilty enough to deserve such harsh punishment. If the appeals process wasn't so long, we would save money.
Is a person not a person if they committed a crime? Do they not have human rights? How are they going to get out of prison for first degree murder? That is an automatic life in prison without possibility of parole and it means they will suffer longer (if you want to look at it that way). It just doesn't satisfy our need for revenge, does it? We need that because we want revenge. Eye for an eye? Life for a life? Yeah, revenge is a great thing (sarcasm)-much better than letting them rot in jail.LaMidRighter said:I believe capitol punishment is just and proper but only if the punishment fits the crime, i.e, the most vile and harmful of acts against a fellow human being. I look at capitol punishment as being a relinquishing of the right to life by due process of law and have no problems with a long appeals process since it is a punishment that cannot be taken back or amended. That being said, I do believe that abortion is wrong from a moral standpoint, however, back alley abortions would still exist if we made the process illigitimate again and therefore it would serve us better as a country to encourage other options but still give a safe, legal means to do an abortion with less harm to the mother who choses the "nuclear" option for whatever reasons.
LaMidRighter said:Going by the logic of life in prison is worse, there is still the problem of paying for said life in prison. On average, it costs around 45k a year per prisoner to house, feed, clothe, etc. each prisoner.
Well, I didn't have to tell him he was wrong, because there was no way he was right on that account.Gandhi>Bush said:45k a year?
I'd like a source if at all possible.
For example:
It costs less to lock someone up than it does to put them to death.
SOURCE
Oh, I agree with you, I agree...wow...it is the most humane, but can any execution be considered humane?Fantasea said:My preference would be life sentences without the possibility of parole, with the time spent making little rocks out of big ones. In the event that the conviction was in error, let him out and pay him damages.
However, on the question; the first part of the multi-part lethal injection is an anesthetic such as is used in surgery. It renders the person completely unconscious in just a few seconds. There is no feeling of pain, or anything else, for that matter, as the other drugs kick in to cause death.
If the word can be reasonably applied to an execution, this method would be the most humane.
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