PPP survey: Fox News most trusted news source in America

[The Prof]

these days, anyone who watches the news can only see things conservatives want to see, even on msnbc

the party in power is impaling itself on its own petard

headline by headline

every one

sorry

 

[The Prof]

just yesterday:

the son-of-9-11-commission, graham/talent, gave him an F on the threat of wmd's used domestically

his debt commission was killed by his own caucus

the movement of ksm to manhattan was ambushed, once more, by membership

his spending freeze, low hanging fruit, was fumed and fussed over by his own left

yup, every headline's a dud

the party ruptures, piece by piece

 

[Erod]

Re: Fox Most TRUSTED

My choices for news channels are clearly defined.

If there is a major disaster or event - like the Haiti earthquake or the London train bombing - I'll generally watch CNN. They are extremely good at that sort of thing.

When I want to watch something political, I watch Fox News, because I know I'm going to get a clear picture from both sides, and they don't bring on buffoons from either side. (However, I'm nauseated by the cartoonish Hannity or the overly simplistic and thin-skinned O'Reilly). Fox has terrific guests.

If I want to watch a train-wreck, I watch MSNBC. Other than Matthews, who's at least a pro at what he does, these people are in WAY over their heads. It's like a collection of every kid that got stuffed in a trash can during grade school lashing out at a world they can not get along in.

 

[winston53660]

Re: Fox Most TRUSTED

When I want to watch something political, I watch Fox News, because I know I'm going to get a clear picture from both sides, and they don't bring on buffoons from either side. (However, I'm nauseated by the cartoonish Hannity or the overly simplistic and thin-skinned O'Reilly). Fox has terrific guests.

I was watching Fox the other night and it was Al Sharpton vs Anne Coulter talk about a couple of clowns.

 

[Crunch]

i know, i know

americans are so stupid

indeed, the lack of perspicacity on the part of so many is so apparent, someone really should capitalize and campaign on that very platform

that would be the SMART thing to do

CABLE NEWS RACE
TUES., JAN., 26, 2010

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,581,000
FOXNEWS BECK 3,196,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 3,133,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,624,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,415,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 2,187,000
CNNHN BEHAR 949,000
CNNHN GRACE 914,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 818,000
CNN KING 796,000
MSNBC MADDOW 726,000

:doh

 

[Anarcho-fascist]

Re: Fox Most TRUSTED

It was a national survey of 1,151 registered voters.

There were over 131 million voters in the 2008 election (this number to estimate the political active).

Do the math.

Over 95% confidence the results are within a + or - 3% variation of the opinions of the entire registered voter population.

 

[AIA]

The spin doesn't stop at Fox, it starts at Fox. Fox News has the worst bias out of all channels. Fox is a bunch of unprincipled pundits searching desperately for the wackiest ways to criticize those on the left - and only those on the left. That should be a dead give away, right there.

 

[Groucho]

You have to analyze the results.

Basically, Fox is VERY trusted by conservatives by a huge margin.

It is DEAD LAST among liberals and moderates.

Conservative Trust Of Media Outlets (Yes/No)--PPP Poll 1/26/10

FOX NEWS: 75/13
CNN: 22/60
ABC NEWS: 16/67
NBC NEWS: 15/66
CBS NEWS: 14/68

Liberal Trust of Media Outlets (Yes/No)--PPP Poll 1/26/10

NBC NEWS: 64/22
CNN: 63/21
CBS NEWS: 56/29
ABC NEWS: 50/31
FOX NEWS: 26/66

Moderate Trust of Media Outlets (Yes/No)--PPP Poll 1/26/10

CNN: 47/31
NBC NEWS: 44/33
CBS NEWS: 41/33
ABC NEWS: 39/34
FOX NEWS: 33/48

The huge amount of conservative trust, which is not shared by the MAJORITY of those responding, overshadowed the medicore trust the rest of the US has of the media in general.

I mean, look -- with the exception of conservatives, who apparently are unquestioning blind followers (75%??!!!), everyone else has a healthy distrust of the media -- ALL media. That's usually a good thing.

The PPP's analysis of the results admits Fox's bias and makes an interesting conclusion: These numbers suggest quite a shift in what Americans want from their news. A generation ago Walter Cronkite was the most trusted man in the country because of his neutrality. Now people trust Fox the most precisely because of its lack of neutrality. It says a lot about where journalism is headed.

 

[phildozer9121]

George Washington said in his farewell address,

"I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy."


EVERY single person on this forum knows (all though very few will admit it)

that major news outlets are NOT to be trusted, especially Faux news.

We are all blinded by our partisan-ship, which is perpetuated by said news outlets and our very own representatives in the government.

I watch fox, and want to punch someone in the face
I watch msnbc, and wonder what details are being left out, or what part of the story they're not telling.

"It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another."

 

[Groucho]

If we assume that there were equal numbers of liberals, conservatives and moderates polled, then another conclusion is this:

"67% of all Americans find Fox News the least trustworthy."

 

[Tucker Case]

These numbers suggest quite a shift in what Americans want from their news. A generation ago Walter Cronkite was the most trusted man in the country because of his neutrality. Now people trust Fox the most precisely because of its lack of neutrality. It says a lot about where journalism is headed.

That's an interesting line from the article linked in the OP. I'd like to hear what people think of that?

I basically said as much in another thread today. Good work to Fox on that. Their marketing and ability to get extreme brand loyalty is brilliant and is a testament to their research department.

 

[Groucho]

Here's the link to the original story so no one accuses me of making anything up:

Public Policy Polling: Fox leads for trust

 

[The Prof]

walter conkrite, neutral?

LOL!

LOLOLOL!

 

[Erod]

That's an interesting line from the article linked in the OP. I'd like to hear what people think of that?

As opposed to MSNBC, which only brings on a conservative if at gunpoint.

 

[Tucker Case]

As opposed to MSNBC, which only brings on a conservative if at gunpoint.

Personally, I think MSNBC tries to copy Fox's bias-aspect without understanding the brilliant nature of how Fox approaches it's marketing and how they layout their news programing.

Fox puts a ton of effort into tailoring their broadcasts in a subtle fashion. MSNBC has no idea of how to pull it off with any degree of artistry or skill.

The amount of research Fox puts in to appease its demographic and induce a vehement degree of brand loyalty is impressive.

 

[Groucho]

I see that Fox News is showing how unbiased they are today. They cut off the televised meeting the President had with the Republicans 20 minutes before it was over since the President was coming across so well, apparently.

I'm anxious to read their explanation as to why they decided to do so. I'm sure it will be "fair and balanced."

 

[Harshaw]

Oh, puh-lease. :roll: There could be a thousand reasons why they cut away, just like there could be a thousand reasons why CNN and MSNBC showed only a little, or none, of Scott Brown's victory speech.

But no; because you think Obama was looking too good, their "bias" must be the reason.

Got it. :roll:

 

[The Prof]

fox news during the day is WAY too much puppies caught in pipes and strippers suing some patron cuz she slipped on her pole

msnbc is THE place for politics during the day, especially btwn 3 and 7 am, eastern

that'd be coffee joe, mika, and their outstanding panelists, usually featuring politico mag

then it's chuck todd and savanah

it used to be dylan ratigan

and i forget right now who comes on at 6, but it's still THE place to be

msnbc has been all over this president in its hard news

so has fox

THE schedule is like this---little chrissy matthews at 2:00 (my time, now, pacific, it would be 5 eastern)

then bret bair

then kinda an open hour

then oreilly, sean, greta

during the prime time, bill-o, sean and the former cnn law analyst, there's constant changing of channels

i have a second tv on, sound down, within view

i can see olbermann has switched to health care, for example

a whole lotta ed, keith and rachel, up to 50% of my time (see what the opp is saying)

anderson cooper

larry, the few times he's relevant

cspan

unfortunately, outside bill-o and his following pair, there's no other place to get the OTHER side

except drudge and rcp

that's my take

sean, for instance, breaks all kindsa news

half a T cuts to m and m

mandates on individuals to buy for themselves that which they can't afford

backbreaking impounds on already bankrupt states

10 years of taxes, 6 of benefits

the czars

the humiliations in china, copenhagen, copenhagen, oslo

putin's plays, iran's

scott brown's campaign and his truck

you're not gonna get that kinda stuff outta keith

have a wonderful weekend, all

oh, DEFINITELY watch ALL sunday talks---mtp, ftn, fns, stephy---NEVER miss a sunday talk

don't talk so much around here if you do, i'd suggest, respectfully

don't try to pass yourself off, unless you want to

peace

 

[cpwill]

A generation ago Walter Cronkite was the most trusted man in the country because of his neutrality.

woops. :doh

 

[AIA]

Oh, puh-lease. :roll: There could be a thousand reasons why they cut away, just like there could be a thousand reasons why CNN and MSNBC showed only a little, or none, of Scott Brown's victory speech.

But no; because you think Obama was looking too good, their "bias" must be the reason.

Got it. :roll:

Just like CNN and MSNBC showed bias, Fox were showing their bias. Only Fox were even more biased, because it was the f***ing president.

"And today we'd like to talk about how Democrats hate your tooth paste, while we use flashy distracting things to divert your attention from the State of the Union Address. Did I say that? I meant that the fifth dentist is Nancy Pelosi."

 

[Groucho]

woops. :doh

Did you read what you posted?

The attack on his "liberal bias" stated very clearly "since he retired." In other words, when he was a journalist, he had a reputation for being unbiased and for not letting his personal views shine through. Once he retired, he no longer had to.

Surely you see the difference. Everyone has political views -- good journalists don't let you know what theirs are. During his run, people of all views trusted Cronkite, exactly because he didn't show his views.

 

[Harshaw]

Just like CNN and MSNBC showed bias, Fox were showing their bias. Only Fox were even more biased, because it was the f***ing president.

I didn't say any of them showed bias. In fact, my point was rather opposite -- that there could be a thousand reasons why any of them would choose to cut away when they did.

I think automatically chalking it up to "bias" says more about the viewer's assumptions than anything about the channels in question.

 

[The Prof]

when he was a journalist, he had a reputation for being unbiased and for not letting his personal views shine through

cronkite?

LOL!

certainly not in my neck of the woods

but i guess i and mine don't matter, we're only americans

During his run, people of all views trusted Cronkite, exactly because he didn't show his views.

people of all views?

you sure about that?

 

[Grim17]

Fox News's late night show "Red Eye" has a little fun with MSNBC's David Shuster on this subject. :rofl

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cFuryFymU8"]YouTube- Robot David Shuster[/ame]

 

[Manc Skipper]

" In a development believed to have caused Thursday's international run on duct tape and tinned goods, an opinion poll this week suggested Fox News is the most trusted news operation in America. Dig into the data and it's a little more nuanced and complex than "flood's a comin'", but what it shakes down to is that 49% of Americans trust Fox. The survey of 1,151 registered voters was greeted by much wailing and gnashing of teeth – making it in many ways resemble a broadcast by Fox's most eye-catching lab experiment, Glenn Beck.

If the wailers and gnashers weren't such godless liberals, of course, they'd be thumbing their way to the bit in the Book of Revelation that predicts exactly this occurrence, but instead they have been plunged into shock. Yet is it all that surprising? Whether Rupert Murdoch's news network is to your taste or not, you have to concede that it is an awesomely effective product, and the news-as-telenovela concept has revolutionised the marketplace.

On the plus side, this week also saw Forbes magazine reveal the results of its poll to find America's 10 most trusted celebrities. And the Forbes poll doesn't so much put the Fox stuff into perspective as put the whole idea of trust into perspective. ... "



http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/29/fox-news-america-tv-trust