Pornography

[Orion]

I just finished watching a BCC documentary called "Teens Hooked on Porn". It follows the lives of three adolescent men and the impact that pornography has upon them. According to the documentary the vast majority of teens, particularly young men, have watched porn. Approximately 20% of young women watch it regularly. In summary:

Teen A) Becomes a self-proclaimed porn addict until one day he flashes an undercover police officer on the internet via his webcam. The next day the police come to his door and threaten to charge him with indecency. He seeks a sex therapist with whom he uncovers that his tendency towards violent porn imagery has to do with being bullied earlier in life. After therapy, his interest in porn declines, though he still watches it.

Teen B) Watched porn routinely until his mother browsed his web history and discovered his activities. She moved the computer to the living room, but he still watched it whenever the parents weren't at home. He became convinced by his family and trusted community to seek advice from his pastor regarding his "problem". (I place it in quotes because the boy did not see it as a problem until his mother told him it is.) By the end of the documentary he did not watch porn at all and perceived himself as someone in recovery.

Teen C) Watches porn for gratification and entertainment, has porn parties with friends, and trades porn with his friends via their blue tooth cell phones. He sees no problem with porn, thinks it is a normal part of a young man's life, and will continue watching it for the foreseeable future. His girlfriend said on camera that although she has no problem with porn, it can become awkward when she is expected to be an experimental outlet for fantasies portrayed in the movies.

Some discussion starters:

Is porn 'deviant' or immoral? Teen C said in the program that if people had access to the internet 50 years ago, they'd be doing the exact same thing as teens are today.

Is the sheer quantity of porn available causing people to shift their views of what sex represents? Is it degrading the meaning?

Should there be porn laws, further restrictions, or bans?

Is all porn consumption unhealthy?

Legalities aside, do all teens who watch porn require intervention?

 

[rathi]

Porn is basically sex entertainment. It can be addictive, but no more than watching TV or drinking coffee. I personally don't find it immoral. Banning it would be stupid. It can promote unrealistic expectations, but no more than PG rated romantic comedies.

 

[Thorgasm]

When I was a kid I would probably watch it daily if we had the internet back then.

Now, maybe once a week.

 

[1069]

I think... that when a society becomes so affluent that it has no real problems, it begins to make some up.
That's my response to the situation outlined in the OP.

 

[danarhea]

I just finished watching a BCC documentary called "Teens Hooked on Porn". It follows the lives of three adolescent men and the impact that pornography has upon them. According to the documentary the vast majority of teens, particularly young men, have watched porn. Approximately 20% of young women watch it regularly. In summary:

Teen A) Becomes a self-proclaimed porn addict until one day he flashes an undercover police officer on the internet via his webcam. The next day the police come to his door and threaten to charge him with indecency. He seeks a sex therapist with whom he uncovers that his tendency towards violent porn imagery has to do with being bullied earlier in life. After therapy, his interest in porn declines, though he still watches it.

Teen B) Watched porn routinely until his mother browsed his web history and discovered his activities. She moved the computer to the living room, but he still watched it whenever the parents weren't at home. He became convinced by his family and trusted community to seek advice from his pastor regarding his "problem". (I place it in quotes because the boy did not see it as a problem until his mother told him it is.) By the end of the documentary he did not watch porn at all and perceived himself as someone in recovery.

Teen C) Watches porn for gratification and entertainment, has porn parties with friends, and trades porn with his friends via their blue tooth cell phones. He sees no problem with porn, thinks it is a normal part of a young man's life, and will continue watching it for the foreseeable future. His girlfriend said on camera that although she has no problem with porn, it can become awkward when she is expected to be an experimental outlet for fantasies portrayed in the movies.

Some discussion starters:

Is porn 'deviant' or immoral? Teen C said in the program that if people had access to the internet 50 years ago, they'd be doing the exact same thing as teens are today.

Is the sheer quantity of porn available causing people to shift their views of what sex represents? Is it degrading the meaning?

Should there be porn laws, further restrictions, or bans?

Is all porn consumption unhealthy?

Legalities aside, do all teens who watch porn require intervention?

Unless children are involved, or unless women are being forced to make porn, it is none of the government's business. If it is forcible, or if the makers are using children, then the government SHOULD get involved, preferably whacking off their tallywhacker.

 

[rivrrat]

Is porn 'deviant' or immoral?

Morals are subjective. If one thinks it is deviant and immoral, then one shouldn't expose oneself to it.


Is the sheer quantity of porn available causing people to shift their views of what sex represents? Is it degrading the meaning?
The meaning of sex is whatever the individuals involved want it to be.


Should there be porn laws, further restrictions, or bans?

Only insofar as to restrict forced participation, of course.


Is all porn consumption unhealthy?
Of course not.


Legalities aside, do all teens who watch porn require intervention?
Of course not.

 

[Catz Part Deux]

Is porn 'deviant' or immoral? Teen C said in the program that if people had access to the internet 50 years ago, they'd be doing the exact same thing as teens are today.

I don't know why we spend so much energy mythologizing the sex act and expressions of it.

Is the sheer quantity of porn available causing people to shift their views of what sex represents? Is it degrading the meaning?

What does sex mean? I contend that sex only has whatever meaning we imbue it with.

Should there be porn laws, further restrictions, or bans?

Absolutely not.

Is all porn consumption unhealthy?

Porn consumption is like beer consumption. It's fine until there's a problem.

Legalities aside, do all teens who watch porn require intervention?

Intervention is only required if porn consumption is causing other problems. Porn, in and of itself, and interest in sex, is relatively normal.

IN another era, we'd all be sharing a house, and our parents would be having sex in the same room with the kids. And that would be "normal."

 

[Tucker Case]

If we count the porn that occurs in my head, I have to say more than once a day.

 

[roguenuke]

There wasn't an option for "not yet, but I want too".

I don't have a problem with porn, but personally I want a story to it. My husband told me this was probably going to be hard to find though. I really don't care if it's just a frivolous plot line that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, as long as it's not just video of people doing it.

As far as your questions go, my opinions are:

It's not immoral to me, and for anyone who thinks it is, don't watch.

I don't really have much of an opinion on internet porn, I'd prefer to just buy videos or books from a store then risk a virus or have to pay a periodic fee. But I can see how the internet allows people to find porn that suits them easier, and as long as the porn isn't made because of illegal activity (children, snuff, actual rape or forced sex) then I don't see a problem with it.

Now I'd say there is a point where someone could be addicted to porn, but it really isn't different than other addictions and safer than at least a few. As long as it isn't negatively affecting the teen, I don't see a problem with it. However, I do think parents should explain sex to their children before or at least at the first clues that those children may be watching porn so that they don't think that porn depicts a realistic expectation of what sex is like.

 

[Matos]

I used to be a video editor, and every now and then porn would arrive, and I had to stare at it daily. The excitement soon disappears.

It's like using the interwebs once you're used to 2girls1cup, Mr. hands lemonparty, goatse, and assjar.

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

Is porn 'deviant' or immoral? Teen C said in the program that if people had access to the internet 50 years ago, they'd be doing the exact same thing as teens are today.

Deviant? Obviously not. I think a brief look at the poll shows that it is a common activity for the majority, and I would suspect that the majority likewise considers it normal and healthy and probably moral as well.

I have stated many times that I believe that it is unhealthy and immoral, and I still stand by this position. It contributes to the objectification of women and the depersonalization of sexual relationships, and it contributes to the normalization of even more destructive facets of the sex industry. Porn at best detracts from more wholesome, beneficial expressions of sexuality and at worst promotes callousness and even outright cruelty to one's sexual partners.

Teen C is absolutely correct. If the Internet had existed 50 years ago, porn would be a significant portion of Internet traffic-- even though it would have been illegal at the time. If it were illegal today, it would still occur. There's been porn for as long as there's been art, and there likely will always be porn.

On the other hand, the appeal of porn is transgressive-- in order to be effective, porn must have the air of being "dirty" and "forbidden." The more society disapproves of pornography, the less worse the porn itself will be.

Legalities aside, do all teens who watch porn require intervention?

No more so than anyone else. Teens are adults it is both natural and healthy for them to possess the same sexual urges, and to act upon them as best they are able. Trying to pretend otherwise is a cultural sickness that centuries of tradition and sincere moral belief simply cannot transform into a truth.

 

[70s_guy]

I just finished watching a BCC documentary called "Teens Hooked on Porn". It follows the lives of three adolescent men and the impact that pornography has upon them. According to the documentary the vast majority of teens, particularly young men, have watched porn. Approximately 20% of young women watch it regularly. ...

Is porn 'deviant' or immoral? Teen C said in the program that if people had access to the internet 50 years ago, they'd be doing the exact same thing as teens are today.

Is the sheer quantity of porn available causing people to shift their views of what sex represents? Is it degrading the meaning?

Should there be porn laws, further restrictions, or bans?

Is all porn consumption unhealthy?

Legalities aside, do all teens who watch porn require intervention?

1) Porn is immoral for Christians and of course it obviously leads to an increased addiction to damnable mas turd bation. If a person is an atheist, then have fun exciting yourself like Hairy Palms. I was there 50 years ago and believe me there would be NO pornography on the Internet had it come about back then. There were considerable protests whenever Playboy magazine first tried to sell on common store magazine racks until the courts stepped in so little of todays broad range of media filth would have had any chance of gaining general public access. That all changed of course in the 70s (thankyou lawyers and judges).

2) Reality is the majority of people have little self control when it comes to denying pleasure. So make porn easy to access and no wonder the result.

3) Vote for 70s_guy giving me the global power to restrict pornography in all media and I will push the zap porn button instantly. Would not ban totally but just not make it so easy to access.

4) What a person experiences, acts out, or fills their mind with especially if it affects emotions becomes a part of what they are regardless of how much a person would like to deny any effects.

5) Intervening with teens will do little given the cultural environment. Our laws and culture need to change.

 

[RightinNYC]

I think... that when a society becomes so affluent that it has no real problems, it begins to make some up.
That's my response to the situation outlined in the OP.

Basically agree with this 100%.

The only thing I would agree with is that the easy availability of so many different types of porn is really changing what most people view as normal or accepted sexual activity. Not saying that that's a bad thing, but there it is.

Example:

[ame=http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/166189]Internet Porn Simulator - Clips - South Park Studios[/ame]

(very mildly nsfw)

 

[Toothpicvic]

"Teens Hooked on Porn".

By Dr James Dobson right?

Is porn 'deviant' or immoral?

Nope. Ted Haggart is.

Teen C said in the program that if people had access to the internet 50 years ago, they'd be doing the exact same thing as teens are today.

Duh

Is the sheer quantity of porn available causing people to shift their views of what sex represents? Is it degrading the meaning?

Sex has never meant anything more than it has today. If anything respect for women has increased strongly thoughout history.

Should there be porn laws, further restrictions, or bans?

Their should be a law requiring all Christian clergy to watch (non-gay) porn for at least 8 hours a day. And their should be bans against Christians' criticizing (non-gay) porn.

Is all porn consumption unhealthy?

Are all priests pedophiles?

Legalities aside, do all teens who watch porn require intervention?

Nope. But the maker of that documentary requires immediate hospitalization and a heavy does of medication.

N-EEEXT.:roll:

 

[B L Zeebub]

The Rev Python Hellhound, torments me on a daily basis with his food porn.:shock:

His pics of immature cocktail sausages are revolting

 

[Phantom]

I watch it when ever I feel like it.

 

[B L Zeebub]

I dont have a pornograph

 

[paris]

I dont have a pornograph

You're not going to try and tell me you think you can diddle your way out of a criminal charge with an adding machine!

 

[B L Zeebub]

You're not going to try and tell me you think you can diddle your way out of a criminal charge with an adding machine!

I will have you know plasters, I have a hand pulled Anita

 

[EpicDude86]

I just finished watching a BCC documentary called "Teens Hooked on Porn". It follows the lives of three adolescent men and the impact that pornography has upon them. According to the documentary the vast majority of teens, particularly young men, have watched porn. Approximately 20% of young women watch it regularly. In summary:

Teen A) Becomes a self-proclaimed porn addict until one day he flashes an undercover police officer on the internet via his webcam. The next day the police come to his door and threaten to charge him with indecency. He seeks a sex therapist with whom he uncovers that his tendency towards violent porn imagery has to do with being bullied earlier in life. After therapy, his interest in porn declines, though he still watches it.

Teen B) Watched porn routinely until his mother browsed his web history and discovered his activities. She moved the computer to the living room, but he still watched it whenever the parents weren't at home. He became convinced by his family and trusted community to seek advice from his pastor regarding his "problem". (I place it in quotes because the boy did not see it as a problem until his mother told him it is.) By the end of the documentary he did not watch porn at all and perceived himself as someone in recovery.

Teen C) Watches porn for gratification and entertainment, has porn parties with friends, and trades porn with his friends via their blue tooth cell phones. He sees no problem with porn, thinks it is a normal part of a young man's life, and will continue watching it for the foreseeable future. His girlfriend said on camera that although she has no problem with porn, it can become awkward when she is expected to be an experimental outlet for fantasies portrayed in the movies.

Some discussion starters:

Is porn 'deviant' or immoral? Teen C said in the program that if people had access to the internet 50 years ago, they'd be doing the exact same thing as teens are today.

Is the sheer quantity of porn available causing people to shift their views of what sex represents? Is it degrading the meaning?

Should there be porn laws, further restrictions, or bans?

Is all porn consumption unhealthy?

Legalities aside, do all teens who watch porn require intervention?

I think it's the "perception" that porn is taboo (like many kinks) that makes it so sexually arousing. Humans LOVE doing the 'bad' thing or the 'wrong' thing.