Polls Show African-American Vote for Donald Trump is Double Mitt Romney’s

[volsrock]

On Friday, a poll of 506 Pennsylvania voters by Harper Polling showed Trump has the support of 18.46 percent of African-Americans. That’s eight points more than Romney’s share of the national vote in 2012, and if it proves true during the ballot, that 18.46 percent African-American support translates into 2 point shift towards Trump. The poll also said another 4.6 percent were undecided.

The Harper poll is small, with an error margin of 4.4 percent, but an Oct. 30 poll of 1,249 likely voters in Pennsylvania showed Trump has 19 percent support among African Americans, while another 7 percent remain undecided. That poll has a error margin of 2.77 percent.

In next-door Michigan, two nights of a tracking poll conducted for Fox 2 of 1,150 likely voters showed Trump with 14 percent support and 19 percent support, leaving Clinton with 83 percent and 79 percent support. That’s equivalent to a two-point shift from Clinton to Trump in the state.

Polls Show African-American Vote for Donald Trump is Double Mitt Romney's Vote - Breitbart


Also add in those blacks who will not admit they are voting for Trump in public.

 

[legalimmigrant]

On Friday, a poll of 506 Pennsylvania voters by Harper Polling showed Trump has the support of 18.46 percent of African-Americans. That’s eight points more than Romney’s share of the national vote in 2012, and if it proves true during the ballot, that 18.46 percent African-American support translates into 2 point shift towards Trump. The poll also said another 4.6 percent were undecided.

Does that poll mention how many European-Americans support Trump?

 

[haymarket]

There is a real potential sore spot growing here. If Clinton loses and the Black vote for her is not strong, many will be quick to point out that Clinton would not have won the primary delegates she did with almost universal support from Black primary voters. Were it divided evenly, Sanders may well have been the nominee. That is simply the tale the numbers tell.

So if Clinton loses and we end up with Trump and if a Black vote gets some of the blame for that fate, it could prove to be a real sore point within the Democratic Party for years to come.

The underpinning message will be simple to Blacks: you gave us this bitch and then you failed to support her and then gave us Trump.

It could be very very ugly.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Maybe that small percentage of black voters has figured out that Hillary is not (half) black like Obama and that even electing "brother" Obama did not make their situation any better. Doing the same thing, over and over, yet anticipating a better result is....

 

[MrPeanut]

Maybe that small percentage of black voters has figured out that Hillary is not (half) black like Obama and that even electing "brother" Obama did not make their situation any better. Doing the same thing, over and over, yet anticipating a better result is....

Republicans have always had a shot with African Americans. The big problem tends to be saying something like brother Obama which turns them off for obvious reasons.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Republicans have always had a shot with African Americans. The big problem tends to be saying something like brother Obama which turns them off for obvious reasons.

Yep, it is obvious that Obama's race had no effect on black voter turnout - he was simply much better qualified than Hillary was in 2008.

 

[legalimmigrant]

Maybe that small percentage of black voters has figured out that Hillary is not (half) black like Obama and that even electing "brother" Obama did not make their situation any better. Doing the same thing, over and over, yet anticipating a better result is....

...insanity.

 

[joG]

On Friday, a poll of 506 Pennsylvania voters by Harper Polling showed Trump has the support of 18.46 percent of African-Americans. That’s eight points more than Romney’s share of the national vote in 2012, and if it proves true during the ballot, that 18.46 percent African-American support translates into 2 point shift towards Trump. The poll also said another 4.6 percent were undecided.

The Harper poll is small, with an error margin of 4.4 percent, but an Oct. 30 poll of 1,249 likely voters in Pennsylvania showed Trump has 19 percent support among African Americans, while another 7 percent remain undecided. That poll has a error margin of 2.77 percent.

In next-door Michigan, two nights of a tracking poll conducted for Fox 2 of 1,150 likely voters showed Trump with 14 percent support and 19 percent support, leaving Clinton with 83 percent and 79 percent support. That’s equivalent to a two-point shift from Clinton to Trump in the state.

Polls Show African-American Vote for Donald Trump is Double Mitt Romney's Vote - Breitbart


Also add in those blacks who will not admit they are voting for Trump in public.

I read in the NYT the other day that the lower than expected turnout of Blacks as seems to be happening is a great concern of the Clinton people.

 

[Casper]

On Friday, a poll of 506 Pennsylvania voters by Harper Polling showed Trump has the support of 18.46 percent of African-Americans. That’s eight points more than Romney’s share of the national vote in 2012, and if it proves true during the ballot, that 18.46 percent African-American support translates into 2 point shift towards Trump. The poll also said another 4.6 percent were undecided.

The Harper poll is small, with an error margin of 4.4 percent, but an Oct. 30 poll of 1,249 likely voters in Pennsylvania showed Trump has 19 percent support among African Americans, while another 7 percent remain undecided. That poll has a error margin of 2.77 percent.

In next-door Michigan, two nights of a tracking poll conducted for Fox 2 of 1,150 likely voters showed Trump with 14 percent support and 19 percent support, leaving Clinton with 83 percent and 79 percent support. That’s equivalent to a two-point shift from Clinton to Trump in the state.

Polls Show African-American Vote for Donald Trump is Double Mitt Romney's Vote - Breitbart


Also add in those blacks who will not admit they are voting for Trump in public.

True, if she were black it would be 95%. That said, how many Conservative Republicans are not going to vote for Trump, most will not vote for Hillary either but my guess is it is enough to make up the black votes Hillary will not get. As for Indes I think their turn out will be low and many will vote Johnson or none of the above. Thanks, DNC and GOP for the worst election Ever.

 

[ttwtt78640]

...insanity.

It is surely racist to call such a large percentage of black voters insane.

 

[legalimmigrant]

It is surely racist to call such a large percentage of black voters insane.

Recently, while attending an annual service award lunch where I used to work, I aksed a black guy why they always vote for the democrats instead of being a swing vote to get the most from both parties.

This was later reported to the HR, followed by a call from the company president. He told me that the new company regs make any refrences to race, gender or sexual orientation verboten. Even if friendly.

This is the new level of insanity "America" has reached and some are oh so proud of it.

 

[Tigerace117]

On Friday, a poll of 506 Pennsylvania voters by Harper Polling showed Trump has the support of 18.46 percent of African-Americans. That’s eight points more than Romney’s share of the national vote in 2012, and if it proves true during the ballot, that 18.46 percent African-American support translates into 2 point shift towards Trump. The poll also said another 4.6 percent were undecided.

The Harper poll is small, with an error margin of 4.4 percent, but an Oct. 30 poll of 1,249 likely voters in Pennsylvania showed Trump has 19 percent support among African Americans, while another 7 percent remain undecided. That poll has a error margin of 2.77 percent.

In next-door Michigan, two nights of a tracking poll conducted for Fox 2 of 1,150 likely voters showed Trump with 14 percent support and 19 percent support, leaving Clinton with 83 percent and 79 percent support. That’s equivalent to a two-point shift from Clinton to Trump in the state.

Polls Show African-American Vote for Donald Trump is Double Mitt Romney's Vote - Breitbart


Also add in those blacks who will not admit they are voting for Trump in public.

Breitbart has not proved itself a credible source during this election cycle. We'll see if there's any truth to this soon enough.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Recently, while attending an annual service award lunch where I used to work, I aksed a black guy why they always vote for the democrats instead of being a swing vote to get the most from both parties.

This was later reported to the HR, followed by a call from the company president. He told me that the new company regs make any refrences to race, gender or sexual orientation verboten. Even if friendly.

This is the new level of insanity "America" has reached and some are oh so proud of it.

I can see the reason for that HR complaint. Had you asked your coworker about his personal political views rather than assuming, in advance of any answer, that they were race based (simply because he was black?) then you may have actually learned something and avoided any HR involvement.

 

[reinoe]

The underpinning message will be simple to Blacks: you gave us this bitch and then you failed to support her and then gave us Trump.

It could be very very ugly.

So instead of Dems putting Blacks on plantations metaphorically they'll put Black on plantations literally? There are very few ways that the Democratic Party could treat the Black voters any worse.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

I still don't understand this whole "black = democrat" thing. Democrats TALK about how they're for minorities, but then they DO very little about it (except for Muslims, whom they're afraid of, and Mexicans whom they need their vote).

 

[reinoe]

Republicans have always had a shot with African Americans. The big problem tends to be saying something like brother Obama which turns them off for obvious reasons.

Yes, the GOP has been both overtly racist and used dog-whistle subtle racist towards Black voters. I've always pointed out that since Black on average are more socially conservative than most Americans, if the GOP could cool it with the racism and just start treating Blacks like they're human then they'd make huge inroads. The DEMS have offered Black voters nothing: but nothing is still better than what the GOP typically offered. Trump is the first GOP candidate that actually has something to offer Black voters that's worthwhile, even with all the kkk supporters saying otherwise. Hillary Clinton's support for Big Wall Street Banks that prey on Black voters, along with her unwavering support for the prison industrial complex is the first Dem in a long time whose going to be worse for Black voters than the GOP. She is truly awful.

 

[reinoe]

Yep, it is obvious that Obama's race had no effect on black voter turnout - he was simply much better qualified than Hillary was in 2008.

He was certainly a much better campaigner than her. Her terrible campaign management is just another example of how terrible of a candidate she truly is. And let's not forget Bill's "Obama should be serving me coffee" comments.

 

[ttwtt78640]

He was certainly a much better campaigner than her. Her terrible campaign management is just another example of how terrible of a candidate she truly is. And let's not forget Bill's "Obama should be serving me coffee" comments.

She appears to have gotten the DNC nod (albeit with plenty of "establishment" help) and has Obama himself now at her service pulling campaign (and fundraising) duty. I am curious as to how many minutes into her term before she will give up on "debt free" college, raising taxes on "the rich", using no US "boots on the ground" when fighting ISIS (ME, Asian and African terror) and mandating a "much" higher MW. She ran a decent campaign considering what her "experience" actually did for (to?) the country (as opposed to her going from "dead broke" to a multi-millionaire) and basically just saying that she is not as bad as Trump "surely would be".

 

[haymarket]

So instead of Dems putting Blacks on plantations metaphorically they'll put Black on plantations literally? There are very few ways that the Democratic Party could treat the Black voters any worse.

That response makes no sense as a reply to the post from me you led with.

 

[Skeptic Bob]

I still don't understand this whole "black = democrat" thing. Democrats TALK about how they're for minorities, but then they DO very little about it (except for Muslims, whom they're afraid of, and Mexicans whom they need their vote).

I wonder the same thing sometimes. But I do think a lot of it comes down to outreach, rhetoric, and just plain ol' upbringing.

The Republican Party just assumes they are not going to win the black vote. So they don't "waste" their time and money reaching out to them and in turn the black community feels the Republican Party at best is ignoring them. At worst they think the Republicans actively dislike them.

The Democrats' rhetoric is very pro-black and empathizes more with the black community. It is of course just rhetoric.

And then the fact remains that most people vote the party that their family votes. Following the civil rights movement blacks flooded to the Democrratic party for very valid reasons. From there it is inertia. Yeah, the Democrats are at the point they just take the black vote for granted. And some black voters are tired of that. But the Republican Party needs to start working for the black vote. Republicans actually have policies that would help blacks, like loosening regulations on small business owners.

There is also a tendency for Republicans to completely dismiss the claims of the black community that racism is still alive and well. Even if that is what the Republicans believe they need to at least ACT like they can at least empathize with the black community. Like the Democrats do. When you put blame on people it just makes them defensive. It is human nature.

 

[legalimmigrant]

He was certainly a much better campaigner than her. Her terrible campaign management is just another example of how terrible of a candidate she truly is. And let's not forget Bill's "Obama should be serving me coffee" comments.

...and her terrible shrieking voice...

Luckily, I have the mute and the skip buttons on my remotes. The prospect of seeing this smug screaming bitch for the next four years terrifies me.

 

[Mustachio]

On Friday, a poll of 506 Pennsylvania voters by Harper Polling showed Trump has the support of 18.46 percent of African-Americans. That’s eight points more than Romney’s share of the national vote in 2012, and if it proves true during the ballot, that 18.46 percent African-American support translates into 2 point shift towards Trump. The poll also said another 4.6 percent were undecided.[/url]


Also add in those blacks who will not admit they are voting for Trump in public.

1. Stop saying "those blacks" immediately and never say it again. "Those whites," "those gays," etc. Stop.

2. Harper polling:

The organization was founded after the 2012 presidential election, with the goal of giving Republicans high-volume, inexpensive "robo-polling."

The firm plans to do this by using Interactive Voice Response (IVR), that is, automated survey techniques, in combination with live caller polls. [1]

The organization was founded by Brock McCleary, who had served as the polling director of the NRCC in the 2012 cycle.[2]

The organization was founded with the goal of emulating PPP, a left-leaning polling organization.[3]

Harper Polling has received some backlash for not being able to call cellphones

So can we see a poll that includes people who use cell phones and not home phones? Or a non robo-poll?

3. Breitbart? You are aware that Breitbart only publishes content that is pro-Trump, right?

 

[Mason66]

Maybe that small percentage of black voters has figured out that Hillary is not (half) black like Obama and that even electing "brother" Obama did not make their situation any better. Doing the same thing, over and over, yet anticipating a better result is....

Or that her husband, and by extension here, are responsible for their relatives being in jail.

 

[countryboy]

On Friday, a poll of 506 Pennsylvania voters by Harper Polling showed Trump has the support of 18.46 percent of African-Americans. That’s eight points more than Romney’s share of the national vote in 2012, and if it proves true during the ballot, that 18.46 percent African-American support translates into 2 point shift towards Trump. The poll also said another 4.6 percent were undecided.

The Harper poll is small, with an error margin of 4.4 percent, but an Oct. 30 poll of 1,249 likely voters in Pennsylvania showed Trump has 19 percent support among African Americans, while another 7 percent remain undecided. That poll has a error margin of 2.77 percent.

In next-door Michigan, two nights of a tracking poll conducted for Fox 2 of 1,150 likely voters showed Trump with 14 percent support and 19 percent support, leaving Clinton with 83 percent and 79 percent support. That’s equivalent to a two-point shift from Clinton to Trump in the state.

Polls Show African-American Vote for Donald Trump is Double Mitt Romney's Vote - Breitbart


Also add in those blacks who will not admit they are voting for Trump in public.

There's evidence all over the place. Here's a good one I watched the other day. Can't embed some vids on this old pc. If anyone wants to embed, that'd be great.

Dem Strategist: Clinton Should Be In "Panic Mode" Over Enthusiasm Gap With Black Voters, "Nothing She Can Do Now" | Video | RealClearPolitics

 

[MrPeanut]

Yep, it is obvious that Obama's race had no effect on black voter turnout - he was simply much better qualified than Hillary was in 2008.

If a Republican told me that the way I was voting wasn't effective because I'm still white trash I probably wouldn't be convinced. In the same way trying to convince blacks to turn Republican by telling them that voting for their "brother" didn't work out is probably not an effective way to approach the issue. Sprinkling in offensive comments into an otherwise reasonable point does not work. Republicans should've figured that out a long time ago.