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Excerpted from “Poll: Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair” Posted by Stephanie Condon, CBS News Poll analysis by the CBS News Polling Unit: Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto, Fred Backus and Anthony Salvanto, “Political Hotsheet,” CBS News, April 14, 2010 2:00 PM
[SIZE="+2"]A[/SIZE]s Tea Partiers gather for today's rally in Boston, home of the original Tea Party protest in 1773, 42 percent of Tea Party supporters think the amount of income taxes they'll pay this year is unfair, according to a new CBS News/ New York Times poll.
Yet while some say the Tea Party stands for "Taxed Enough Already," most Tea Party supporters - 52 percent - say their taxes are fair, the poll shows. Just under one in five Americans say they support the Tea Party movement. …
Excerpted from “Poll Finds Tea Party Backers Wealthier and More Educated” By KATE ZERNIKE and MEGAN THEE-BRENAN, The New York Times, Published: April 14, 2010
[SIZE="+2"]T[/SIZE]ea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public, and are no more or less afraid of falling into a lower socioeconomic class, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll. …
Huh? That's counterintuitive. The majority of Tea Partiers say their taxes are fair. The New York Times analysis helps to clarify Tea Partiers’ “fierce animosity toward Washington” is not over taxes specifically but rather a “deep pessimism about the direction of the country and the conviction that the policies of the Obama administration are disproportionately directed at helping the poor rather than the middle class or the rich.”
Agree with analysis or not these are interesting results at any rate.
When thinking about all the services provided by federal, state and local governments, 75% of voters nationwide say the average American should pay no more than 20% of their income in taxes. However, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that most voters (55%) believe the average American actually pays 30% or more of their income in taxes.
Sixty-six percent (66%) believe that America is overtaxed. Only 25% disagree.
Something like 95% of the country have had their taxes go DOWN so far during the Obama administration.
Tax credit = handout =/= tax cut. And don't think that the huge taxes on businesses and other things won't be passed on to any of those 95%.
Did Obama raise taxes on businesses?
I'm starting to get suspicious of these polls that supposedly show who the Tea Partiers are. They all seem to contradict each other. I think the problem is the ambiguity of defining who's a Tea Partier and who isn't.
75% of voters nationwide say the average American should pay no more than 20% of their income in taxes. However, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that most voters (55%) believe the average American actually pays 30% or more of their income in taxes.
I'll tell you one thing, my taxes sure as **** aren't fair. I'm an independent contractor, so I get taxed as a higher rate than someone else who makes the exact same amount of money as I do because of small business taxes and such.
That's not a fair system.
I'll tell you one thing, my taxes sure as **** aren't fair. I'm an independent contractor, so I get taxed as a higher rate than someone else who makes the exact same amount of money as I do because of small business taxes and such.
That's not a fair system.
Something like 95% of the country have had their taxes go DOWN so far during the Obama administration.
Yup, for small businesses, taxes are crushing. The company I work for pays corporation tax, franchise tax, unemployment tax, medicare tax, property tax, not only on the premises, but on what is inside, including inventory, sales tax (but we do collect that from the customer, so maybe it shouldn't count), a fee on our sign, permit fees, state registration fees, registration fees for EACH municipality we do work in (and there are a lot of them), taxes built into the fees on refrigerants we recover and recycle, taxes on our phone service, which are at a higher rate than residential, the same on the water we use, the same on our internet service, and the same on the electricity we use.
Of course, we do pass all this on to the consumer, as do all other contractors. Ever wonder why your A/C and heating system costs about 3 times as much as it did 10 years ago? Part of it is mandated higher efficiency standards - OK, no problem with that. It means fewer power plants have to be built, resulting in less reliance on foreign oil. Part of it is the switchover to new refrigerants which contain no chlorine, meaning compressors and coils in new units must be larger and more expensive - OK, no problem with that, as this is helping to shrink the ozone hole. And, of course, part of it is the huge increase in taxes. Now that, I have a problem with, but like I said, we merely pass those costs on to the consumer. When our taxes go up, it is you who pays it, not us.
While you are at your Tea Party, screaming about being overtaxed, think about more than just income tax. You are being taxed to death in ways you never imagined.
Something like 95% of the country have had their taxes go DOWN so far during the Obama administration.
that is the 95% who pay about 20% of the taxes. Those of us who pay the vast majority of the taxes are going to see massive tax hikes in the next year
How massive? 3 percent?
Whatta lie! Show us reduced taxes, since PBO took dictatorial powers.
Excerpted from “Ignorance Is Bliss for the Tea Party Crowd” posted by bruce bartlett, “capitalgainsandgames: Washington, Wall Street & Everything in Between,” 20 mar 2010
… [[SIZE="+2"]F[/SIZE]]ederal taxes are very considerably lower by every measure since Obama became president. And given the economic circumstances, it's hard to imagine that a tax increase would have been enacted last year. In fact, 40% of Obama's stimulus package involved tax cuts. These include the Making Work Pay Credit, which reduces federal taxes for all taxpayers with incomes below $75,000 by between $400 and $800.
According to the JCT, last year's $787 billion stimulus bill, enacted with no Republican support, reduced federal taxes by almost $100 billion in 2009 and another $222 billion this year. The Tax Policy Center, a private research group, estimates that close to 90% of all taxpayers got a tax cut last year and almost 100% of those in the $50,000 income range. For those making between $40,000 and $50,000, the average tax cut was $472; for those making between $50,000 and $75,000, the tax cut averaged $522. No taxpayer anywhere in the country had his or her taxes increased as a consequence of Obama's policies. …
It's because you'remore interested in doing the, "right thing", than playing by the rules that the government has set forth.
Doesn't bother me all that much when all is said and done. I live comfortably and can afford the taxes.
I was just pissed off when I posted that because I literally posted it within minutes of writing the check for my tax bill this year. :lol:
Apart from hyperbole about dictatorial powers, here you go.
It is interesting that taxes they are not paying upsets them so. :doh
You did see the other poll that showed they were wealthier, right? Kind of contradicts the idea that they are going to be beneficiaries of those cuts which were generally for the less wealthy.
And it ignores the fact that they are worried about the future raising of taxes that will likely follow from the increased spending, especially for wealthier Americans.
Not really. Even they are not seeing any real tax hikes.
And the question boils down to how reasonable their fears are. They sure weren't out protesting Bush's spending. You have to question their reasoning, . . . a lot.
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