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(Poll) JD Vance: judges cannot "tell the American people they’re not allowed to have what they voted for"

Can judges "tell the American people they're not allowed to have what they voted for"


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So many people in this thread want a Dictatorship it’s disgusting.

Because they believe that dictatorship will hurt people they don’t like.

That’s the end of it.

Every person in this thread, supporting JDs stance is evil.

Pure and simple.
 
So many people in this thread want a Dictatorship it’s disgusting.

Because they believe that dictatorship will hurt people they don’t like.

i support a 'dictatorship' but not in the way you Envision it.

it is more like a Benevolent Monarchy; it will all be inevitable anyway. what we have now is doomed to fail and really doesn't serve the interests of most people except the 1% who rule over us.

my only hope is a World Wide christian monarchy by my King and savior, the only one that can bring peace and prosperity to all. anything else has proven hopeless and failure prone.


blessings Jet, just think it over.

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That’s the end of it.

Every person in this thread, supporting JDs stance is evil.

Pure and simple.
 
Not only did I try to answer you, I DID answer you. You keep suggesting I might be happier somewhere else. Nope, I'm happy as a Lark right here where I am.

Here's a suggestion for you. It just might be the Judiciary branch opperating outside it's Consitutional authority, not the Executive branch. Keep thinking about that as time goes by.
Specifically how is the judiciary branch operating outside of its constitutional authority?
Remember: if a lower court issues a ruling that the defendant disagrees with there is always the option to appeal that ruling. Some rulings can be appealed all the way to the SC which is the final arbiter. Unfortunately we have a president now who thinks he is the one to decide the law and has ignored court rulings on multiple occasions. When that happens we have a de facto dictator.
This is the system we have that has worked fairly well here for centuries. Unfortunately it’s disintegrating because we have a fascist pig in the White House. Eventually the judicial branch will need some help in reining him in, hopefully in 2026-because right now the Congress repulsicans are cowering in fear.
As for now the check on executive power is rightfully being exercised by the judiciary where the felon has a long string of courtroom losses to his discredit.
 
i support a 'dictatorship' but not in the way you Envision it.

it is more like a Benevolent Monarchy; it will all be inevitable anyway. what we have now is doomed to fail and really doesn't serve the interests of most people except the 1% who rule over us.

my only hope is a World Wide christian monarchy by my King and savior, the only one that can bring peace and prosperity to all. anything else has proven hopeless and failure prone.


blessings Jet, just think it over.

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A Jewish monarchy would be much better.
 
A Jewish monarchy would be much better.

yes.

but it will be Real and led by the King of Kings.

you will have Benevolence on one hand with christians ruling but also a strictness about it. call it 'The Rod of Iron'.

hopefully you and i will be on speaking terms, please mention my name when you come into my Court Room as i wish to extend you special kindness and favor of the Court.

please don't press me or my Assistants though, we insist on certain decorum in our Monarchy.


think it over, it will be here sooner rather than later.


blessings.

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yes.

but it will be Real and led by the King of Kings.

you will have Benevolence on one hand with christians ruling but also a strictness about it. call it 'The Rod of Iron'.

hopefully you and i will be on speaking terms, please mention my name when you come into my Court Room as i wish to extend you special kindness and favor of the Court.

please don't press me or my Assistants though, we insist on certain decorum in our Monarchy.


think it over, it will be here sooner rather than later.


blessings.

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I’ll start holding my breath waiting for it 🙄
 
I’ll start holding my breath waiting for it 🙄

go ahead.

please don't Roll yur eyes my friend, it will ALL happen sooner rather than later.

and we will talk later if you have any more to add or disagree with our Monarchy. it will be much different than anything you experience now.

you will have only ONE right by the way: obey the King of Kings.

that's it.

kinda simple and no Constitution needed. i kinda like the idea of a christian Theocracy for the simplicity and smoothness of operation.

the other thing is when the sheep jump, just ask how high to jump on the way up. par for the course.

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There is no direct evidence from Vance where he explicitly stated he supports a dictatorship nor is there any direct evidence where anyone wants a dictatorship because of people they don't like.
There are anti-Trump/Vance haters with their own agendas who would like to spread that kind of nonsense though.... and ironically, they are some of the same people who call others evil.
 
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It might be stupid to you if you don't like a Supreme Court because it leans to the Right. But it's still the Supreme Court which is the highest court in the land.

Oh I would laugh so hard I might actually pee a little.

The chaos that decision would cause would be hilarious. Seriously. Each District would make a ruling and it would affect only that district. A dozen cases would be appealed on different grounds. It would be absolute chaos.

And of course if they decide to overturn Birthright Citizenship, that would be even funnier. Since most of Trumps kids would have been born to a woman who wasn’t a citizen. The Democrats, when they get back in power would be able to deport them. Buh bye now.

Eastern European women. Marrying Trump and doing the job Americans won’t. Isn’t immigration great?

Of course Marco Rubio would be first. His Parents were not Citizens when he was born.

I don’t understand why you think I would be mad. It would be hilarious.
 
Simple yes/no basic civics question.

A basic premise of the Constitution is that there are some things the government cannot do even with the support of a majority of voters. The VP swore an oath to uphold the constitutional rights of all people, which are superior to any legislation or executive action. Judges have final authority to interpret the Constitution. It is disturbing he does not understand this.
Well your "SPIN" is not the context that Vance is arguing.

He is not saying judges can't stop unconstitutional action!
He's saying judges can't impede the president doing his job by abusing their power !

All these LOW Court judges make bad/not legitimate rulings to stop Trump's actions , but get over ruled at the higher courts!
They are doing this to cause chaos in America and just want to harass Trump.
They are trying to stop Trump from coming threw on his promises to the American people.
 
Simple yes/no basic civics question.

A basic premise of the Constitution is that there are some things the government cannot do even with the support of a majority of voters. The VP swore an oath to uphold the constitutional rights of all people, which are superior to any legislation or executive action. Judges have final authority to interpret the Constitution. It is disturbing he does not understand this.
I'm not answering your loaded question.

You'll have to point out where the Constitution is being violated and make a compelling argument for that otherwise you don't really have anything here except for a loaded question.
 
Plaintiffs can join in a class action if they feel wronged. District judges are operating out of their constitutional lane when they order nationwide injunctions. It is not sustainable to require unanimous consent from 674 or so appointed judges for every decision
Is it though? Those decisions can still be challenged through the federal appeals process, so the "unanimous consent" requirement is temporary at worst.
 
I generally agree with you, but that should equally apply to (unconstitutional) acts of congress. We have reached the point such that whatever congress deems to be ‘important’ automagically becomes a (new) federal government power, despite the 10A’s explicit limitation of federal government powers. For example, education clearly isn’t a constitutional federal government power, yet congress created a cabinet level federal Department of Education and allocates billions to fund its (congressionally defined) ‘mission(s)’.
I agree with your point but not necessarily your example. The 10th amendment prohibits the federal government from directly controlling state education, but they can still indirectly influence it through the powers that are granted in the constitution. For example, the spending Clause (Article I, Section 8) grants congress the power to tax and spend for the general welfare which gives them the power to provide federal funds to states for education. This power isn't unlimited, since the conditions for receiving federal funds can still be unconstitutional if they're considered coercive.
 
Oh I would laugh so hard I might actually pee a little.

The chaos that decision would cause would be hilarious. Seriously. Each District would make a ruling and it would affect only that district. A dozen cases would be appealed on different grounds. It would be absolute chaos.

And of course if they decide to overturn Birthright Citizenship, that would be even funnier. Since most of Trumps kids would have been born to a woman who wasn’t a citizen. The Democrats, when they get back in power would be able to deport them. Buh bye now.

Eastern European women. Marrying Trump and doing the job Americans won’t. Isn’t immigration great?

Of course Marco Rubio would be first. His Parents were not Citizens when he was born.

I don’t understand why you think I would be mad. It would be hilarious.
Your response reminds me of a Wes Anderson screenplay.
Zany, unpredictable, and weirdly entertaining.
Look him up on IMDB.
 
The same one. I’m not a partisan hack. I support the constitution no matter who is in office. Unlike Trump taint lickers. When anyone runs afoul of it, I call them on it. You are free to peruse my posting history.
If you say so.
But I will closely watch your posts in case you are tempted to slip down the slope of flip-flop.
 
There is no direct evidence from Vance where he explicitly stated he supports a dictatorship nor is there any direct evidence where anyone wants a dictatorship because of people they don't like.
There are anti-Trump/Vance haters with their own agendas who would like to spread that kind of nonsense though.... and ironically, they are some of the same people who call others evil.

Don’t have the courage to respond to me directly?

A most Trumpian quality.

Pretending that Vance isn’t saying exactly what he’s saying, yeah, we know, you stand with evil.

You always have.
 
? That's not what the judiciary is for. Are you being sarcastic?

My point was that judges are allowed to have a say as its all part of the checks and balances idea of the constitution.
They stop a lawless President just going completely bonkers and ruling by decree.
 
Come on. Even Republican judges are getting nervous now.
 
I agree with your point but not necessarily your example. The 10th amendment prohibits the federal government from directly controlling state education, but they can still indirectly influence it through the powers that are granted in the constitution. For example, the spending Clause (Article I, Section 8) grants congress the power to tax and spend for the general welfare which gives them the power to provide federal funds to states for education. This power isn't unlimited, since the conditions for receiving federal funds can still be unconstitutional if they're considered coercive.

It’s that ‘general welfare’ spending which is causing the federal government to engage in borrow/print and spend, over what they dare ask for (demand?) in taxation, creating a huge (and growing) national debt.
 
Is it though? Those decisions can still be challenged through the federal appeals process, so the "unanimous consent" requirement is temporary at worst.
To delay is to deny.
 
i support a 'dictatorship' but not in the way you Envision it.

it is more like a Benevolent Monarchy; it will all be inevitable anyway. what we have now is doomed to fail and really doesn't serve the interests of most people except the 1% who rule over us.

my only hope is a World Wide christian monarchy by my King and savior, the only one that can bring peace and prosperity to all. anything else has proven hopeless and failure prone.


blessings Jet, just think it over.

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Your fantasy world doesn’t apply to the real one. Your ideas have no basis in reality and will never happen.
 
It’s that ‘general welfare’ spending which is causing the federal government to engage in borrow/print and spend, over what they dare ask for (demand?) in taxation, creating a huge (and growing) national debt.

The national debt isn’t hurting anyone.
 
The national debt isn’t hurting anyone.

Really, so why tax at all?

The national debt is a complex issue with potential short-term benefits and long-term risks. While it can be used to fund essential programs and respond to emergencies, it also carries the risk of higher interest rates, slower economic growth, and intergenerational consequences. There's ongoing debate among economists about the extent to which the national debt poses a threat to the economy, but it's clear that managing the debt is a crucial task for policymakers.
 
Really, so why tax at all?

The national debt is a complex issue with potential short-term benefits and long-term risks. While it can be used to fund essential programs and respond to emergencies, it also carries the risk of higher interest rates, slower economic growth, and intergenerational consequences. There's ongoing debate among economists about the extent to which the national debt poses a threat to the economy, but it's clear that managing the debt is a crucial task for policymakers.

Taxes are need to run the government. All companies are partially funded by debt. So are most households. They still need income. So do governments.
 
Your fantasy world doesn’t apply to the real one. Your ideas have no basis in reality and will never happen.

thanks Dave for the Excellent review in this comments section. and no i don't expect any Agreement from you of any kind.

but Dave, who here would dare to even hypothesize what will happen 1, 5 or 10 years down the Road in this present day corrupt world?

the Real Answer is no one. not even you would go out on a limb, so i do; i give you the Best i know in Prophetic knowledge and so far seems to generally pan out.

most of the Info i share is easily obtainable on the net; the WEF meets yearly in Davo, and is on record of declaring they will take Everything you own. the Ukraine war is getting even more dangerous with the nato strike on russian aircraft destroying 1/3 of them; you should be concerned how close we are to WW three. recently because of this the Dooms Day clock should have run out of time, and we should now live day to day in our Home Dug bunkers as the Elite are now living in.

all 5 Fronts of WW three are now ready to go; please note China vs Taiwan, Russia vs whatever, India vs Pakistan, the Mideast war, North vs South Korea.

are you keeping score yet my friends?

take a look at the Orange usa annexation of Canada and Greenland. fantasy? i think not, except if the Sheep wanna do Denial.

if you are into Denial, i cannot and will not help you. you all made yur bed and will sleep in it.


blessings all; Dark Maga Technocracy will go World wide: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Dark+Maga+is+technocracy&ia=web


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