Poland designates July 11th Remembrance Day for Polish victims of Genocide at the hands of Ukrainian Nationalists

[j brown's body]

Poland allowed the CIA to set up torture camps on their soil.

They don’t give a shit about the supposed “abuses” of Russia.

Apparently they do.

"Poland is doing all it can to prevent another Russian invasion. As a neighbor of Ukraine and host to more than 2 million of its war refugees, Poland has seen, heard and felt what Russia is capable of, and it is now preparing for the worst."

 

[Tigerace117]

Apparently they do.

Poland has never gotten over Russia crushing their empire multiple times over, as I already pointed out. They lost the old Lithuanian lands, then the Soviets humiliated and defeated Piludski to the point where any sort of independent Poland surviving at all was a “miracle”.

 

[j brown's body]

Poland has never gotten over Russia crushing their empire multiple times over, as I already pointed out. They lost the old Lithuanian lands, then the Soviets humiliated and defeated Piludski to the point where any sort of independent Poland surviving at all was a “miracle”.

A more immediate concern is probably Russia's invasion of Ukraine as a part of Putin's effort to rebuild the USSR.

After all, and more recently, after WWII, I believe the Soviet Union controlled Poland, violating their popular sovreignty.

 

[Juin]

Commemorating it together isn't putting it in the rear view mirror.

Ukraine does not welcome the commemoration


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"The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine considers the decision of the Sejm of the Republic of Poland to establish 11 July as a Day of Remembrance for the victims of the so-called 'genocide committed by the OUN and UPA in the eastern territories of the Second Polish Republic' to fly in the face of the spirit of good neighbourly relations between Ukraine and Poland," read the statement issued by the Ukrainian ministry on Thursday.
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[Tigerace117]

A more immediate concern is probably Russia's invasion of Ukraine as a part of Putin's effort to rebuild the USSR.

After all, and more recently, after WWII, I believe the Soviet Union controlled Poland, violating their popular sovreignty.

If Putin intended to “rebuild the USSR” why hasn’t he annexed Belarus?

Or Kazakhstan and the other Central Asian nations which clung to the Soviet Union long after it had crumbled elsewhere?

Or South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

If his intention was to “rebuild the USSR” he could have made major progress without a shot fired long ago.

Poland was at least as sovereign under the Warsaw Pact as any of the US’ allies were, as Guatemala, Chile and Iran show.

 

[Juin]

You can’t “pay tribute to the victims” while honoring the people who carried out the atrocities as national heroes.

Poland condemns Ukraine’s commemoration of wartime nationalist leader Bandera​

Jan 2, 2023 | History, Politics

After officials and institutions in Ukraine – including the national parliament – marked the birth anniversary of nationalist leader Stepan Bandera, Polish government figures have criticised the commemoration of a man they see as responsible for the genocide of ethnic Poles and Jews.

Poland condemns Ukraine's commemoration of wartime nationalist leader Bandera

notesfrompoland.com

 

[j brown's body]

If Putin intended to “rebuild the USSR” why hasn’t he annexed Belarus?

Or Kazakhstan and the other Central Asian nations which clung to the Soviet Union long after it had crumbled elsewhere?

Or South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

If his intention was to “rebuild the USSR” he could have made major progress without a shot fired long ago.

Poland was at least as sovereign under the Warsaw Pact as any of the US’ allies were, as Guatemala, Chile and Iran show.

It my understanding he didn't think Ukraine would slow him down so much.

 

[Tigerace117]

It my understanding he didn't think Ukraine would slow him down so much.

He wouldn’t have had to fire a shot to annex most of these other countries.....so why hasn’t he?

 

[j brown's body]

He wouldn’t have had to fire a shot to annex most of these other countries.....so why hasn’t he?

Maybe that's why he hasnt bothered, yet.

 

[Tigerace117]

Maybe that's why he hasnt bothered, yet.

If he “wants to rebuild the USSR” he should be actually doing so and building momentum to encourage other nations to join.

He’s done no such thing, because he isn’t interested in recreating the USSR.

 

[j brown's body]

If he “wants to rebuild the USSR” he should be actually doing so and building momentum to encourage other nations to join.

He’s done no such thing, because he isn’t interested in recreating the USSR.

You might contact him. He hasn't handled the Ukraine invasion particularly well.

 

[Tigerace117]

You might contact him. He hasn't handled the Ukraine invasion particularly well.

The Russians have already displayed exponentially more fortitude than the US, who, for example, were chased out of Somalia after losing like twenty KIA.

 

[Real blank]

If Putin intended to “rebuild the USSR” why hasn’t he annexed Belarus?

He would if they ever did something he really didn’t like.

 

[Tigerace117]

He would if they ever did something he really didn’t like.

So he’s not “rebuilding the USSR”, then. If he was it wouldn’t matter one way or another.

 

[j brown's body]

He would if they ever did something he really didn’t like.

Belarus has an autocratic ruler who is one of Putin's closest allies. So that's probably not happening.

Russia's Quiet Conquest: Belarus​

Institute for the Study of War

The Kremlin is in the endgame of a decades’ long strategic effort to de facto annex Belarus — an effort which will permanently augment Russia’s military and economic capabilities to pursue its revanchist geopolitical objectives against the United States a

www.understandingwar.org

 

[Real blank]

So he’s not “rebuilding the USSR”, then. If he was it wouldn’t matter one way or another.

Why would you need to when the country has a leader who is subservient to you.

 

[Real blank]

Belarus has an autocratic ruler who is one of Putin's closest allies. So that's probably not happening.

Russia's Quiet Conquest: Belarus​

Institute for the Study of War

The Kremlin is in the endgame of a decades’ long strategic effort to de facto annex Belarus — an effort which will permanently augment Russia’s military and economic capabilities to pursue its revanchist geopolitical objectives against the United States a

www.understandingwar.org

Yes I am aware of that

 

[j brown's body]

The Russians have already displayed exponentially more fortitude than the US, who, for example, were chased out of Somalia after losing like twenty KIA.

And for what?

 

[Juin]

Belarus has an autocratic ruler who is one of Putin's closest allies. So that's probably not happening.

Russia's Quiet Conquest: Belarus​

Institute for the Study of War

The Kremlin is in the endgame of a decades’ long strategic effort to de facto annex Belarus — an effort which will permanently augment Russia’s military and economic capabilities to pursue its revanchist geopolitical objectives against the United States a

www.understandingwar.org

Would that be like the US', France's and Germany's quiet conquest of Syria? After lifting a ten million dollar bounty on its new leader, Ahmad al Shaara

German, French foreign ministers meet Syria's new leaders – DW – 01/03/2025

Germany's top diplomat Annalena Baerbock and her French counterpart met members of Syria's rebel-formed transition government. The pair are the first EU diplomats to visit Syria since Bashar Assad's ouster.

www.dw.com

 

[Juin]

And for what?

For the freedom of the disaffected ethnic Russian minorities of Donbass and Crimea

 

[maxparrish]

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And Ukraine is pissed!


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"The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine considers the decision of the Sejm of the Republic of Poland to establish 11 July as a Day of Remembrance for the victims of the so-called 'genocide committed by the OUN and UPA in the eastern territories of the Second Polish Republic' to fly in the face of the spirit of good neighbourly relations between Ukraine and Poland," read the statement issued by the Ukrainian ministry on Thursday.
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Poland is going off script. Messing up all the hard work that had gone into shaping the narrative of the new world order. In this new script pushed by Bruxelles there are only angels and demons, and Europe is a Garden. A Garden of Eden as conceptualized by the Catalan Josep Borrell Fontelles. Beyond Europe is a jungle. Inhabited by demons. All of them Russian.

In the European script Ukrainians are angels. Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelensky is nothing short of Michael the Archangel. Ukraine a pearl of great price. The soul of Europe. Which brings us to the problem posed by the Polish Accusation. It is a Remembrance but also an Accusation. How can Europe be a Garden of Eden if its heart, Ukraine, is guilty of genocide?

Black Sunday

This was July 11th 1943. On this day the massacre of Poles by Bandera mobs reached its peak

Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia

The massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia (Polish language: rzeź wołyńska , literally: Volhynian slaughter; Ukrainian: Волинська трагедія, Volyn tragedy) were part of an ethnic cleansing operation carried out in Nazi Germany-occupied Poland by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA)'s...

military-history.fandom.com

Not to be confused with:

April 13 is designated the Day of Remembrance of the Victims of the 1940 Katyn Forest Massacre.
The massacre, which still casts a shadow over Polish-Russian relations, was a series of mass executions of Polish POW's, mainly military officers and policemen, carried out by the NKVD in April and May 1940.

The Katyn massacre<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre#cite_note-2"><span>[</span>a<span>]</span></a> was a series of mass executions of nearly 22,000 Polish military and police officers, border guards, and intelligentsia prisoners of war carried out by the Soviet Union, specifically the NKVD (the Soviet secret police), at Joseph Stalin's order in April and May 1940. Though the killings also occurred in the Kalinin and Kharkiv NKVD prisons and elsewhere, the massacre is named after the Katyn forest, where some of the mass graves were first discovered by Nazi German forces in 1943.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre#cite_note-3"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>

The Katyn massacre[a] was a series of mass executions of nearly 22,000 Polish military and police officers, border guards, and intelligentsia prisoners of war carried out by the Soviet Union, specifically the NKVD (the Soviet secret police), at Joseph Stalin's order in April and May 1940. Though the killings also occurred in the Kalinin and Kharkiv NKVD prisons and elsewhere, the massacre is named after the Katyn forest, where some of the mass graves were first discovered by Nazi German forces in 1943.[2]

The massacre is qualified as a crime against humanity,[3] crime against peace,[3] war crime[3][4] and (within the Polish Penal Code) a Communist crime.[5] According to a 2009 resolution of the Polish parliament's Sejm, it bears the hallmarks of a genocide.[6][7]

 

[j brown's body]

For the freedom of the disaffected ethnic Russian minorities of Donbass and Crimea

A million casualties on behalf of some disaffected people sounds not only insane but highly improbable.

 

[Tigerace117]

And for what?

Large chunks of Ukraine, for starters.

 

[Tigerace117]

Why would you need to when the country has a leader who is subservient to you.

Because if you want to “rebuild the USSR” you would it’s member states brought into the country, not merely subservient.

 

[Real blank]

Because if you want to “rebuild the USSR” you would it’s member states brought into the country, not merely subservient.

I never said that. Are you an American spending your time bolstering Russia?