'Please Don't Politicize This Virus,' WHO Head Says After Trump Threatens Funding

[MTAtech]

And our preparedness would have generated a better response to this pandemic as recognized by the world?? You are going to have a chance to get rid of Trump in November, be prepared for another 4 years due in part to the fact that the people in this country aren't filled with the hatred you have for Trump and are rallying around him

You think your 24/7 anti Trump rhetoric and always placing blame is changing any minds?? If anything you are assuring Trump's re-election

Oh really?

Trump approval rating drops as coronavirus drags on, poll says

President Trump’s approval rating dropped to a six-month low of 43 percent in the daily tracking poll conducted by the Republican-friendly Rasmussen Reports.

CNN poll: Biden leads Trump in national head-to-head matchup - CNNPolitics

 

[FreeSpeechRooom]

Sure it is. Anybody, whether atheist, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, or Zoroastrian, has the capability to observe the religious. You declared that "labeling most [evangelicals] or all of them as disgusting is not rational." Yet you supplied the very things that allows people to look upon them with disgust. Just look how far Christians have fallen:

- Jimmy Swaggart: A Christian Conservative evangelist, who was guilty of sexual scandals with prostitutes in the late 1980s and early 1990s, was held accountable and defrocked.

- Jim Baker: A Christian Conservative evangelist, who was guilty of using cover-up money to hide his sexual misconduct, led to resignation; and further revelations of accounting fraud brought about his conviction on felony charges, imprisonment, and divorce.

- Bill Clinton - An accused liberal, who was guilty of sexual misconduct, was placed in front of Congress and the world, and when he lied about the deed, the GOP impeached him on that technicality.

But where are Christians and evangelicals now? In 2016, a draft-dodging, adultering deviant, who has a history of soliciting sex from pornographers, easily earned adoration from the believers. Evangelicals (mostly white) actually see Trump as "honest" and "morally upstanding." In the meantime, the religious, especially evangelicals, are infamous for their hostility to science. This makes them highly susceptible to manipulation, especially when it comes to Global Warming and the Coronavirus. This is why churches are refusing to shut down, why entire chorus practices have been infected, and why even pastors have died because they preferred the idea that it was all a hoax and that God will protect them anyway.

So, it's not the atheist that insults or even threatens you religions. It's you believers who consistently betrayed your God and present him as a backwards, ignorant fool. And for what? A man who is easily being recorded as one of the very worst Presidents in American history? You see, the atheist has the benefit of not practicing such hypocrisy, specifically because irrationality doesn't form his position. By their very nature, evangelicals are irrational people and when they feel threatened, they merely double down in their misguided faith.

I was raised Christian. I grew up and decided to put my sensibilities in my own hands. These morons did not...

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Pure propaganda Trump never dodged the draft or solicited sex from pornographers, he had legitimate education and medical deferments and you have no evidence to the contrary whatsoever and NDAs are standard they are cheaper than costly and usually unsuccessful slander litigation they are evidence of nothing. PS your stolen valor is showing.

 

[eohrnberger]

Your file dump is cultist garbage. Notice you were completely incapable of putting any of it into your own words. Spare us your pom poms.

Real Clear Politics is cultist garbage now?

I think it more accurate 'anything that doesn't agree with me is cultist garbage now'.

<*sigh*>

 

[FreeSpeechRooom]

Ha! As I always state, Trump's cult is full of supporters because they choose to ignore Trump.

Facts are stubborn things stolen valor scumbag NDAs are evidence of nothing so gfys

 

[ecofarm]

Real Clear Politics is cultist garbage now?

I think it more accurate 'anything that doesn't agree with me is cultist garbage now'.

<*sigh*>

You copy/pasted some cultist crap apologizing for Trump gutting our pandemic preparedness. You have no grasp of your copy/paste, as evidence by your total lack of accompanying contribution. You completely ignore him calling concern a hoax. You fail to grasp, on any level, that your hero is a fraud.

 

[Kushinator]

IF polls that you posted matter and are April 2020, why aren't Hillary's poll numbers in 2016 relevant? You are a typical Chicago hypocrite

I'm not the one trying to cherry pick a poll to extrapolate the notion that re-election is guaranteed. And when someone shows you a poll that conflicts with your belief system, you ignore it in its entirety, while continuing to promote a poll (which you believe) is favorable. That's a textbook example of hypocrisy.

The way Trump has dealt with the COVID-19 pandemic only further exhibits to the world that he is a horrible leader way in over his head.

 

[eohrnberger]

You copy/pasted some cultist crap apologizing for Trump gutting our pandemic preparedness. You have no grasp of your copy/paste, as evidence by your total lack of accompanying contribution. You completely ignore him calling concern a hoax. You fail to grasp, on any level, that your hero is a fraud.

You're repeating the leftist nonsense mantra from the media.

The hoax you reference is the politicization of the viral outbreak by Democrats and those even further left. Any contortion of what was actually said into anything else is pure partisan political propaganda.

Further evidence that what you assert happened, didn't.

8. Trump "dissolved" the WH pandemic response office

Two days after Trump declared the coronavirus a national emergency, the Washington Post ran an opinion piece by Elizabeth Cameron, who ran the White House pandemic office under Obama, alleging that Trump had dissolved the office in 2018. She claimed because of this, “the federal government’s slow response to the coronavirus isn’t a surprise.”
This claim spread like wildfire, even though it was completely false. Days after WaPo ran the piece, they published another article by Tim Morrison, former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the National Security Council, who debunked the allegation made by Cameron and other former Obama administration officials.
John Noonan, ✔@noonanjo

Direct, factual refutation of claim that the President disbanded his pandemic response team by the NSC official who led the biodefense mission.

The falsehood was widely reported and even stated as a fact by an NBC reporter in a question to the President.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/16/no-white-house-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/ …
Opinion | No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there.

The middle of a global health emergency is not the time to be making tendentious accusations.
washingtonpost.com

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What good is there in spreading false information, as Elizabeth Cameron did? “This is Washington. It’s an election year,” Morrison laments. “Officials out of power want back into power after November. But the middle of a worldwide health emergency is not the time to be making tendentious accusations.”

The Top 10 Lies About President Trump’s Response to the Coronavirus

So your position remains that 'Trump fired the pandemic response team.' in spite of factual evidence to the contrary. :shrug:

 

[MSgt]

Pure propaganda Trump never dodged the draft or solicited sex from pornographers, he had legitimate education and medical deferments and you have no evidence to the contrary whatsoever and NDAs are standard they are cheaper than costly and usually unsuccessful slander litigation they are evidence of nothing.

What an absolute joke.

PS your stolen valor is showing.

Oh, that sort of childish lashing about does nothing to a guy like me. But it is curious how you associate "stolen valor" to whether or not a person blindly supports a draft-dodger.

 

[MSgt]

Facts are stubborn things

Not that stubborn. People like you simply cast them aside for "alternate" facts in order to sustain delusions.

stolen valor scumbag NDAs are evidence of nothing so gfys

Wow. Look at the big boy all growed up. So, is it a homoerotic thing you have for the man or are you really just this ignorant and fragile?

 

[FreeSpeechRooom]

What an absolute joke.

That you are and no rebuttal whatsoever.

Oh, that sort of childish lashing about does nothing to a guy like me. But it is curious how you associate "stolen valor" to whether or not a person blindly supports a draft-dodger.

You have zero evidence whatsoever that his deferments were anything but legitimate.

 

[FreeSpeechRooom]

Not that stubborn. People like you simply cast them aside for "alternate" facts in order to sustain delusions.

Alternative to DNC ministry of propaganda BS from far left activists posing as fact checkers.

Wow. Look at the big boy all growed up. So, is it a homoerotic thing you have for the man or are you really just this ignorant and fragile?

Says the brainwashed NPC.

 

[MSgt]

That you are and no rebuttal whatsoever.

What's the point? You know Trump's truth. The evidence is beyond clear enough. You simply ignore it and pretend.

You have zero evidence whatsoever that his deferments were anything but legitimate.

Aside from the very clear facts that we all have known for years about his history:

President Donald Trump acknowledged to advisors that he made up a fake injury to avoid military service, because “I wasn’t going to Vietnam,” his former lawyer told lawmakers during testimony on Wednesday.

Michael Cohen, who also worked as a fixer for Trump before his election, said he was tasked with tamping down criticism of the military deferment as the presidential candidate simultaneously mocked Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, for being regarded as a military hero. “I like people who weren’t captured," Trump said during a July 2015 interview.

“Mr. Trump claimed (his medical deferment) was because of a bone spur, but when I asked for medical records, he gave me none and said there was no surgery,” Cohen told members of the House Oversight Committee. “He told me not to answer the specific questions by reporters but rather offer simply the fact that he received a medical deferment.

But again, what's the point? You people have proven that you bend Jesus Christ over if it meant proving your blind loyalty and devotion to your ideas of Trump. The funny thing is that most of your kind have moved on from trying to pretend about this anymore.

But you still really, really need to pretend, huh? From his denigrating American POWs to your default to accuse me of "stolen valor," you just don't like having to acknowledge that he represents you well. Ignoring this is the only way you can keep trying to pass off "support the troop" as meaning anything to you.

Told you, I'm the smart one.

 

[Conservative]

I'm not the one trying to cherry pick a poll to extrapolate the notion that re-election is guaranteed. And when someone shows you a poll that conflicts with your belief system, you ignore it in its entirety, while continuing to promote a poll (which you believe) is favorable. That's a textbook example of hypocrisy.

The way Trump has dealt with the COVID-19 pandemic only further exhibits to the world that he is a horrible leader way in over his head.

No, you are the one that ignored the Hillary poll numbers in April 2016, how did that election turn out? Trump's dealing with the pandemic will be judged when over and right now the people are rallying around him. His response and results will be much better than Obama's response to the recession. Trump using conservative policies will generate Reagan type results not Carter type results like Obama did, worst recovery in history. Nothing I say or data that I post changes the mind of a corrupt Obama supporter who lives in a fantasy world incapable of even admitting your liberal lean. Chicago politics has corrupted you making you a waste of time

 

[FreeSpeechRooom]

What's the point? You know Trump's truth. The evidence is beyond clear enough. You simply ignore it and pretend.

You have no evidence and you have presented none.

Aside from the very clear facts that we all have known for years about his history:



But again, what's the point? You people have proven that you bend Jesus Christ over if it meant proving your blind loyalty and devotion to your ideas of Trump. The funny thing is that most of your kind have moved on from trying to pretend about this anymore.

But you still really, really need to pretend, huh? From his denigrating American POWs to your default to accuse me of "stolen valor," you just don't like having to acknowledge that he represents you well. Ignoring this is the only way you can keep trying to pass off "support the troop" as meaning anything to you.

Told you, I'm the smart one.

Michael Cohen? Really? I guess on your planet unsubstantiated claims from a convicted perjurer constitutes as evidence. Touche.

Trump didn't attack POWs he attacked the scumbag McCain who attacked Trump first and then sold out his constituency.

 

[MSgt]

Alternative to DNC ministry of propaganda BS from far left activists posing as fact checkers.

Again, an absolute joke.

Says the brainwashed NPC.

Unfortunately for you, I can prove just how manipulated and brainwashed you are:

2012 Study: They found that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer 1.04 domestic questions correctly compared to 1.22 for those who watched no news at all.

2015 Study: A new study by Bruce Bartlett, a conservative economist, top official in the H.W. Bush administration and domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan, concluded that Fox News viewers tend to be less informed and engage in "self-brainwashing."

2016 Study: William Poundstone has done similar surveys, both of current events and with more general knowledge. "In my research too, Fox News viewers scored the lowest of over 30 popular news sources (though Fox viewers did at least score better than those saying they didn't follow the news)."

2019 Study: Fox News likes to tout the “hard news” side of its operation, setting up a false distinction between its right-wing prime-time hosts and the members of its news team as a defense against those who flag the propaganda, lies, conspiracy theories, and bigotry that pervade the network. But a Media Matters investigation found that the “news side” isn't as inoculated as the network claims. We looked at Fox News and Fox Business programming for the first four months of 2019, and we documented examples of the “news” division spreading misinformation on air every single day between January 1 and April 30.

The reason FOX News is the most watched is that you people watch nothing but FOX News. Liberals tend to get their information from multiple sources, which allows them to weigh fact from fiction. Underneath this, they tend to read books, which are things that contain pages of information that helps them understand their world better. I'm guessing that you really don't understand too much about the world you live in, thus your clear frustration to lash out like a child when your fragile world-view becomes offended.

You see, I have the ability to use the brain that sits within my skull for more than a sponge for radical right-wing propaganda.

 

[uptower]

I really wanted to reply to your post, but I like to find some point in a post that is at least vaguely connected with reality for a starting point, so I do hope that you won't be upset if I don't respond further.

The kid's directly attacked several posters in the last few pages. 'POS', 'disgusting shill' and 'go goosestep off a cliff' are some of the highlights.


What does a troll have to do to get suspended around here?

 

[MSgt]

You have no evidence and you have presented none.

Michael Cohen? Really? I guess on your planet unsubstantiated claims from a convicted perjurer constitutes as evidence. Touche.

Trump didn't attack POWs he attacked the scumbag McCain who attacked Trump first and then sold out his constituency.

Wow, you really need him not to be a draft-dodger. Let's not pretend that being obtuse helps your game. The entire world knows of his past and the issue beyond the idea that I must provide for you evidence. I'll be careful not to ever declare that the sun is yellow to you. You'll demand "evidence."

And it's funny how quickly you people turn on everybody who dares not suck the man's dick. You all even cast Mattis aside the moment he hurt Trump's feelings.

The 22-year-old — who was 6 feet 2 inches tall and an athlete — had already avoided the military draft four times in order to complete his college education.

But that spring, as he was set to graduate, he received a diagnosis that landed him a fifth draft deferment that would once again keep him out of Vietnam: bone spurs.

President Trump sat out the war and instead went on to join his father in business. The New York Times reported that the president, as a young man, said his "heel spurs," which are protrusions caused by calcium buildup on the heel bone, made him unfit for service.

Heel spurs can be cured by stretching, orthotics, or surgery. The president said he never got surgery for the condition.

“Over a period of time, it healed up,” he said, according to the Times.

The diagnosis came two years after Trump had been declared available for service and passed a physical exam.

On Wednesday, The Times reported that a Queens podiatrist who rented office space from Fred Trump, the president's father, might have given the president his diagnosis as a courtesy to his father.

Trump, however, wasn't the only young man who managed to avoid being sent to Vietnam because he belonged to an influential family who could afford him a college education — or a favorable medical diagnosis.

Draft deferment wasn't uncommon during the Vietnam era — but it frequently benefited a specific group of young men, particularly those who had the means to afford a college education or enough family influence to obtain a deferment.

Like I stated, what's the point? You are hopelessly lost in your affections for the draft-dodger.

 

[uptower]

Normally I do not report anyone for anything, but your post can most definitely be regarded as a threat of personal violence and so I have no option but to report it.

Last time I told someone I'd reported them the mods gave me the infraction. Uncivil behavior seems to be getting protection if you're on the alt-right.

 

[uptower]

Kinda flies in the face of the citation. :shrug:

Nope, he was spot on

 

[uptower]

So Trump and the entire Republican party weren't smart enough to think the Chinese might be covering it up?

He started off by downplaying the severity, and conservatives here are still pushing the narrative thst this is just a cold. Why was China covering a up s few people with a cold?

Sorry, are you asking for some consistency?

 

[uptower]

Barack Obama said it best:

"Speak the truth. Speak it clearly. Speak it w/compassion. Speak it w/empathy for what folks are going through. The biggest mistake any us can make in these situations is to misinform—particularly when we’re requiring people to make sacrifices and take actions that might not be their natural inclination."

Unfortunately he was wrong. Turns out about 60 million voters and twitter followers are just fine with lies.

 

[uptower]

You are lying through your CCP shill teeth

Go goosestep off a cliff.

I know how to read you asked for a time line I gave you one you illiterate pos.

We know where you're stationed you paid CCP shill pos.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the human brain on a diet of Alex Jones. I'm pretty sure this kid has his short off right now and his man boobs are jiggling with rage.

I understand I'm overstepping but I am also rather tired of seeing the same insults from the same trolls over and over again.

Mods, I took the forum rules as a statement of intent. I came here to get away from this kind of crap and I believed in that promise. There are many more people here on both sides committed to having sensible adult discussions. Those who constantly sling insults should not be allowed to stay.

Mods, please police this site.

Enough already.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Barack Obama said it best:

"Speak the truth. Speak it clearly. Speak it w/compassion. Speak it w/empathy for what folks are going through. The biggest mistake any us can make in these situations is to misinform—particularly when we’re requiring people to make sacrifices and take actions that might not be their natural inclination."

Giving people false hope via spreading disinformation has/is/will-continue-to worsen the situation. He called it a flu, said it was going to disappear miraculously in April, under control, etc.... And he was dead wrong. If he had just kept his big mouth shut, this pandemic wouldn't have turned into such a political nightmare for his administration. More than 16 million jobs have been lost in less than a month. Donald Trump is the Herbert Hoover of our time.

Obama was just as full of **** as anyone, but I see that you fell for it anyways. He said a lot of stupid ****...and did it routinely.

He said we'd save $2400.00 and keep our plans and doctors.

He also said the money was going to shovel ready jobs.

He also said that it was easier to buy a Glock than a book or vegetables.

He also said that that he would have the most transparent administration......a big fat lie.

He also said that he would exclude lobbyists from policy making jobs but then hired 40 of them.

 

[JustHanging]

He said we'd save $2400.00 and keep our plans and doctors.

Why did American Conservatives fight against Obama so hard on healthcare? If you would have gone with what Obama originally suggested, that's what you would have gotten.

Hell, Canada saves ~4k USD per person. THat's a savings of 16k USD for a family of four. 16k!!! And I can choose whichever doctor I want. When I tore my ACL/MCL, I asked for and got the same guy who fixes Vancouver Canuck knees to fix my knee.

Why does Conservative America hate this concept so much?

 

[Port & Starboard]

Why did American Conservatives fight against Obama so hard on healthcare? If you would have gone with what Obama originally suggested, that's what you would have gotten.

Hell, Canada saves ~4k USD per person. THat's a savings of 16k USD for a family of four. 16k!!! And I can choose whichever doctor I want. When I tore my ACL/MCL, I asked for and got the same guy who fixes Vancouver Canuck knees to fix my knee.

Why does Conservative America hate this concept so much?

ObamaCare is making the middle class the new uninsured