Planetary Health Diet allows you 14 grams meat/day

[Hawkeye10]

Read it and weep:

The diet would see adults limited to 14 grams of red meat a day (about 30 calories — a quarter-pound burger patty contains roughly 450 calories), no more than 29 grams of poultry (around one and a half chicken nuggets) and 13 grams of eggs, or just 1.5 eggs per week.

The diet is the result of a three-year project commissioned by The Lancet and involving 37 specialists from 16 countries.

"We are in a catastrophic situation," said co-author Tim Lang, a professor at the University of London and policy lead for the EAT-Lancet Commission that compiled the study.

Lang said feeding a growing population of 10 billion people by 2050 with a healthy, sustainable diet will be impossible without transforming eating habits, improving food production and reducing food waste.

"We need a significant overhaul, changing the global food system on a scale not seen before," Lang said.

https://www.dw.com/en/pass-the-beans-hold-the-beef-to-save-yourself-and-the-planet/a-47113584


UTOPIA is going to suck ass man....

 

[NeverTrump]

Read it and weep:


https://www.dw.com/en/pass-the-beans-hold-the-beef-to-save-yourself-and-the-planet/a-47113584


UTOPIA is going to suck ass man....

For the past two years you have been advocating for utopia, be consistent man.

 

[Hawkeye10]

For the past two years you have been advocating for utopia, be consistent man.

For the past THREE years I have been warning about the BUS DRIVERS TO UTOPIA, pay attention man.

 

[Helix]

I used to work in food safety. Unless we can drastically increase yield / engineer crops that can grow in currently non-fertile land, we'll be in trouble eventually if the current population growth estimates are correct. Luckily, scientific advancements continue despite the anti-GMO screamers. As for meat, someone else can have mine. I will take my egg ration, though. Also, our current estimates don't include plague or a stupid war as potential population controls. Considering that antibiotic development is almost at full stop in favor of boner pills and that humans can't get enough of preventable war against some "other" over resources / imaginary borders, it's just as likely that these will act as population controls before the food runs out.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I used to work in food safety. Unless we can drastically increase yield / engineer crops that can grow in currently non-fertile land, we'll be in trouble eventually if the current population growth estimates are correct. Luckily, scientific advancements continue despite the anti-GMO screamers. As for meat, someone else can have mine. I will take my egg ration, though. Also, our current estimates don't include plague or a stupid war as potential population controls. Considering that antibiotic development is almost at full stop in favor of boner pills and that humans can't get enough of preventable war against some "other" over resources / imaginary borders, it's just as likely that these will act as population controls before the food runs out.

At the rate these Yearning For Utopia freaks are going they will have us on insect cakes eventually....Keep that in mind.

 

[Helix]

At the rate these Yearning For Utopia freaks are going they will have us on insect cakes eventually....Keep that in mind.

While I find your assertion to be a bit dramatic, I've had insect cake. It was basically cornbread. Average person probably wouldn't know the difference. Here come the Renfield jokes.

 

[WCH]

Read it and weep:


https://www.dw.com/en/pass-the-beans-hold-the-beef-to-save-yourself-and-the-planet/a-47113584


UTOPIA is going to suck ass man....

I can live without meat. When they decide I can't have my truck, we'll have some serious problems.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I can live without meat. When they decide I can't have my truck, we'll have some serious problems.

Wake Up Man, it is not just about the meat, it is that and everything else that you need to give up if you are going to be considered a good citizen........ and maybe we will have a Citizenship Score like the Chinese where the worse the score the less we get.....in China those with low scores will get denied the ability to get jobs and loans and passports.

 

[beefheart]

Read it and weep:


https://www.dw.com/en/pass-the-beans-hold-the-beef-to-save-yourself-and-the-planet/a-47113584


UTOPIA is going to suck ass man....

You should try the Impossible Burger, it is pretty amazing, and they have a new version coming out that people say tastes exactly like beef.

I've had the 1.0 version, and it was pretty amazing, can't wait for 2.0. I haven't eaten beef or pork in 30 years, I don't miss it.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidebanis/2019/01/11/the-new-impossible-burger-2-0-won-everyones-mouth-at-ces-2019-but-thats-just-the-beginning/#6d1f52727c49

 

[Helix]

Wake Up Man, it is not just about the meat, it is that and everything else that you need to give up if you are going to be considered a good citizen........ and maybe we will have a Citizenship Score like the Chinese where the worse the score the less we get.....in China those with low scores will get denied the ability to get jobs and loans and passports.

To be fair, we already have that. They checked every aspect of my life when I got this job including my financial history. One black mark, and I doubt if I would have been hired.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Allows me? Who is going to stop me?

 

[Hawkeye10]

Allows me? Who is going to stop me?

You really should check up on what the Chinese are doing in the field of Police State Tech.

 

[polgara]

I can live without meat. When they decide I can't have my truck, we'll have some serious problems.

Greetings, WCH. :2wave:

:lamo . :thumbs:

 

[Jack Hays]

Resistance!

 

[polgara]

At the rate these Yearning For Utopia freaks are going they will have us on insect cakes eventually....Keep that in mind.

Greetings, Hawkeye10. :2wave:

Or "soylent green" will become acceptable --- YUCK!

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Wake Up Man, it is not just about the meat, it is that and everything else that you need to give up if you are going to be considered a good citizen........ and maybe we will have a Citizenship Score like the Chinese where the worse the score the less we get.....in China those with low scores will get denied the ability to get jobs and loans and passports.

Reminds me of a Black Mirror episode I saw.

 

[longview]

I look at nonsense like this and reflect of what is actually possible.
https://www.treehugger.com/green-food/family-of-four-grows-their-food-in-a-swimming-pool.html
It has been several years, but the family who did the garden pool were able to produce most of the food for a family of four
in their own backyard, including fish, eggs, and chickens.
Humans are a creative lot when pushed, and necessity is the mother of invention.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

I used to work in food safety. Unless we can drastically increase yield / engineer crops that can grow in currently non-fertile land, we'll be in trouble eventually if the current population growth estimates are correct. Luckily, scientific advancements continue despite the anti-GMO screamers. As for meat, someone else can have mine. I will take my egg ration, though. Also, our current estimates don't include plague or a stupid war as potential population controls. Considering that antibiotic development is almost at full stop in favor of boner pills and that humans can't get enough of preventable war against some "other" over resources / imaginary borders, it's just as likely that these will act as population controls before the food runs out.

Livestock takes up nearly 80% of global agricultural land, yet produces less than 20% of the world's supply of calories. If everyone had the same diet as for example Japan the global land use would be less than the 50 percent of the habitual land and also less than land used today for agriculture. While if you instead have the diet of Spain it would be less than all habitual land. While if everyone in the world had the same diet as for example US the land use would be more than all the habitual land in the world.

https://ourworldindata.org/agricultural-land-by-global-diets

Also why you get results like in the OP is because that especially many developed have for a long time have a very unsuistanable and unhealthy food industry. It would also have been much easier and cheaper to avoid most devastating consequences of global warming if decisive action had been taken during the 90’s.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

You should try the Impossible Burger, it is pretty amazing, and they have a new version coming out that people say tastes exactly like beef.

I've had the 1.0 version, and it was pretty amazing, can't wait for 2.0. I haven't eaten beef or pork in 30 years, I don't miss it.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidebanis/2019/01/11/the-new-impossible-burger-2-0-won-everyones-mouth-at-ces-2019-but-thats-just-the-beginning/#6d1f52727c49

In Sweden we have nice vegan burgers like this one from Max.

 

[Helix]

Livestock takes up nearly 80% of global agricultural land, yet produces less than 20% of the world's supply of calories. If everyone had the same diet as for example Japan the global land use would be less than the 50 percent of the habitual land and also less than land used today for agriculture. While if you instead have the diet of Spain it would be less than all habitual land. While if everyone in the world had the same diet as for example US the land use would be more than all the habitual land in the world.

https://ourworldindata.org/agricultural-land-by-global-diets

Also why you get results like in the OP is because that especially many developed have for a long time have a very unsuitable and unhealthy food industry. It would also have been much easier and cheaper to avoid most devastating consequences of global warming if decisive action had been taken during the 90’s.

The thing is that most omnivores aren't going to abandon or seriously cut babk on meat consumption. I have, but I'm in the minority.

 

[OlNate]

At the rate these Yearning For Utopia freaks are going they will have us on insect cakes eventually....Keep that in mind.

"Insect cakes" are delicious!

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/82347/best-ever-crab-cakes/

I don't think we are going to see this kind of extremist diet being adopted until there's absolutely no other choice...at which point we'll only have ourselves to blame for letting it get that far. Here's hoping we get the tech in place to avoid this in time...

 

[Airyaman]

Well, steak for dinner tonight!

 

[Bergslagstroll]

The thing is that most omnivores aren't going to abandon or seriously cut babk on meat consumption. I have, but I'm in the minority.

I think a big part of the change is more delcius options. That here in Sweden vegan and vegetarian alternatives are getting more common so you have more and more great choices. There for example MAX I mentioned have this vegan/vegatarian menu.

https://www.max.se/sv/Maten/Meny/Green/

While you also have a lot more option in Supermarkets. That you can for example by formable vegan meet like this one from Denmark that is sold all over Europe.



Naturli' Minced – 100% Plant Based

You also have realy great traditional vegetarian/vegan dishes from many cultures around the world like India.

 

[Helix]

I think a big part of the change is more delcius options. That here in Sweden vegan and vegetarian alternatives are getting more common so you have more and more great choices. There for example MAX I mentioned have this vegan/vegatarian menu.

https://www.max.se/sv/Maten/Meny/Green/

While you also have a lot more option in Supermarkets. That you can for example by formable vegan meet like this one from Denmark that is sold all over Europe.

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Naturli' Minced – 100% Plant Based

You also have realy great traditional vegetarian/vegan dishes from many cultures around the world like India.

I love meat substitutes. They keep getting better and better.

 

[Hawkeye10]

"Insect cakes" are delicious!

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/82347/best-ever-crab-cakes/

I don't think we are going to see this kind of extremist diet being adopted until there's absolutely no other choice...at which point we'll only have ourselves to blame for letting it get that far. Here's hoping we get the tech in place to avoid this in time...

Here's hoping that we decide that conducting population control is a better idea than eating insect cakes all day and starvation.