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where's the moderate? I hope you don't mean obama... his record's as liberal as they come.ShamMol said:If I could make any ticket I wanted without regard to winning the presidential ticket....
Obama and Boxer '08. One moderate, one liberal. One black, one white. One a male, one female. One perfectiontion squared, the other just perfect. I jest...
In my opinion, he is more moderate than Boxer. I was making light of the situation, did you not get the implications?Stherngntlmn said:where's the moderate? I hope you don't mean obama... his record's as liberal as they come.
Navy Pride said:President: George Allen
VP: Condy Rice
Hoot said:John McCain would be a good start.
Hoot said:Great...another liar on the republican VP ticket...just what the country needs.
If the GOP is smart, they'll nominate someone of substance this time....
John McCain would be a good start.
Just for fun, I'd love to see a Hillary/Obama ticket. I can just see the 'right' spewing froth and venom with a ticket like this.
Missouri Mule said:For a very good idea of who the likely nominees are check out tradesports.com. They are usually right on the money.
vauge said:Welcome to Debate Politics!
Me thinks you are a Glenn Beck listener. He promotes that site quite often.
galenrox said:Alright, at the risk of sounding ignorant, I must admit I have no clue who the **** is George Allen, so would someone enlighten me?
And as far as Obama not being moderate, he's just not moderate to some who are so far right wing that a moderate democrat would be about as liberal as Mousellini.
I'd say I want Obama to run for president before senate corrupts him, because I am yet to see someone come out of senate uncorrupted. They get too involved in the politics, and they forget about the ideals and those they represent.
In 2008 though, I'd say Brian Schweitzer for president, Obama for vice president, they'd have a fantastic dynamic I think.
Navy Pride said:Obama is a bleeding heart liberal........That is undeniable..........He will play nice to the left wing base of the dem party but like Hillary is un electable as neither will carry one red state...........Bayh will carry Indiana but I am not sure of Ohio.......
Son of a Former Redskins coach by the same name. Born in Ca, raised in Va. Former Va Governor, Current VA senator, and unlike most of the current republican party... he actually seems like a real conservative with classical republican platform views.galenrox said:Alright, at the risk of sounding ignorant, I must admit I have no clue who the **** is George Allen, so would someone enlighten me?
I have had lunch with him. Before he was famous. Basically, I was working for my boss who was a main contributor to the Edwards campaign and even gave him his personal plane to ride around in. Anyways, long story short, I was in contact with the money guy for the Edwards campaign who was having lunch with Obama to discuss overall fundraising for the DNC and I got myself invited along. The man is so amazing. He is charasmatic and is "on" even when trying not to be.jakurus said:I would vote for them even if Obama ran, and I like his kind of Democrat.
One thing to ask yourself is: What do you know about Obama?
I know he gave one good speech on natl' tv, and then right before his election night speech his wife introduced him as "My baby's daddy" even though they are married and he proceeded to give a crappy speech.
Aside from that, I don't really know much about him. Why is everyone so in love with him?
ShamMol said:McCain and Powell....
Now that is a Republican Dream team. Honestly, unless Obama was the main candidate or Boxer ran, I would be voting for them.
ShamMol said:I have had lunch with him. Before he was famous. Basically, I was working for my boss who was a main contributor to the Edwards campaign and even gave him his personal plane to ride around in. Anyways, long story short, I was in contact with the money guy for the Edwards campaign who was having lunch with Obama to discuss overall fundraising for the DNC and I got myself invited along. The man is so amazing. He is charasmatic and is "on" even when trying not to be.
I really like some of his policies, especially his foreign policy, which I believe is very sensible and not very often advocated, which includes in the 10 point plan instilling democracy in the latin america and stopping the school of americas (basically it would have to stop). That is something I am rather passionate about. He also was for more cooperation with the world, especially minding the geneva convention and not disregarding it when we see fit.
Another two areas which he is particularly strong on is of importance to me are health care and education. On education, he especially advocates for direct lending from the federal government to college students instead of the inefficient system of giving it out to private banks. He also suggested plans to get more teachers directly from the ranks of college students by giving them housing plus a stipend to teach in horrible schools and change kids lives.
On health care he has protected people from price gouging when he was just in the state government. He added a ton of people to the rolls and he was trying to add even more. He feels that it is the nation's responsibility to provide health insurance for those who cannot afford it, especially the children. He also wants the Federal government to negotiate drug prices to make it fair for all people, not just the rich.
So, I know just a bit about the man and did not just jump on the bandwagon as you may think.
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