Since he has served in Afghanistan recently, I take him at his word.
Your contention is that only the one who took the pictures could face court martial?
US marines identified in urination video likely to face court martial
So did I.
No, that's not my contention. My contention is that the general order addresses photography of bodies, not handling of bodies. This goes back to my statement "you don't know what they actually violated."
There is a lot to see in it and I think everyone should see it often if they are paying for it. We have had over ten years of this in Afghanistan, lets get this out and let everyone decide if it is what we want to pay for.Soldiers have been taking pics with dead enemy body parts and or whole bodies in since cameras became portable. A friend of mine has a pic he took of one dead VC giving another dead VC a blow job. Move along folks nuthin to see here.
Photos show U.S. GIs posing with dead Afghans - CBS News
U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers - latimes.com
All of these guys who are doing this are a disgrace to the United States and the military.
So did I.
What is the source of your premise that desecration of corpses only means photographing them?
" In a military DUI, it’s the court that decides on sentencing and can result in anything from dishonorable discharge, to a rank reduction, pay deduction, loss of security clearance, fines and imprisonment."
The Consequences for DUI in the Military : StraightDUI.com
"The armed forces of the United States are not prone to hand-holding when it comes to drug abuse within its ranks. While there are some drug rehab programs available to soldiers on active duty, the more common response to the problem is dishonorable discharge."
Drug Use in the Military: Is it Affecting Our Troops? | Michael's House
There is a lot to see in it and I think everyone should see it often if they are paying for it. We have had over ten years of this in Afghanistan, lets get this out and let everyone decide if it is what we want to pay for.
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After I'm dead, they can put a clown wig on me, shove a carrot up my ass and parade me around on a unicycle for all I care.
There is a lot to see in it and I think everyone should see it often if they are paying for it. We have had over ten years of this in Afghanistan, lets get this out and let everyone decide if it is what we want to pay for.
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That's not what I said, Cat. The source is the general order...and the only thing in that order remotely relating to the incident is the photography of human casualties.
Yeah....the context is totally lost on me.....but man I love blood and guts.....especially when we are in their country tell'in how to live.....and it don't matter if our boys are dying....USA! USA!...10 more years!Thanks, that pic makes me smile. The way I hear it these guys sorta blew up prematurely before they could take anyone with them, I would buy a little piece of them in a jar of formaldehyde and put it on my mantle if I could.
What does driving under the influence and drug use have to do with what we are talking about? Those are both violations of specific articles of the UCMJ.
General Order 1 is ban on desecrating corpses. The video is evidence that will be used in the Court Martial.
They are both lesser offenses deserving of dishonorable discharge than desecrating corpses.
They are both lesser offenses deserving of dishonorable discharge than desecrating corpses.
Without reading all 8 pages of posts, all I can say is this:
If there was ever proof that the USofA needs to get out of these countries ASAP it's stuff like this that should put the final nail in that coffin.
Bring everybody home. Now. Get our people out of there. No matter where "there" may be. Bring them all home. Now.
i'm wondering..
how many of you who are calling for the heads of these soldiers will call for the heads of journalists who photographs dead bodies in combat?
Don't mean to jump in where I don't belong but drug use in the military usually ends up with the soldior getting the old boot out the gate with an OTH discharge. I don't know what you link says, I only know what I have seen happened a dozen times or more.
An OTH discharge is not a BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge) or a Dishonorable. It is referred to as an ad sep (administrative separation.) Which basicly means "You're fired." It is not nearly as bad as a BCD or Dishonorable.
Just sayin. Carry on.
There is a distinction between documenting war and desecrating corpses.
im pretty sure the difference between oth and bcd and dishonerable is how much of a douche your brass feels like being when they make your reccomendations
How is taking photographs of dead bodies desecration?
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