Personhood at fertilization

[jimmyjack]

here...
where did you get the idea that they can survive outside the womb,

I have never said that they can survive outside the womb.

and where did you get the impression that he believes its right not to grant personhood?

If he believes they are people he would be against violating their rights, surely.

and this one...
where did you get the idea he's in favour of IVF, and how does that lead to him not granting rights to the fetus?

Because he has not rejected the fact that I said he does, and anyone who supports taking and storing people is not granting rights for those people to be free, because they are in captivity.

 

[jimmyjack]

Jimmyjack, if you didn't understand it, I was being ironic.

Too bad for you.

 

[jimmyjack]

OK I was right the first time. No sense.

You are failing to understand again.

 

[steen]

OK I was right the first time. No sense.

I can see that I haven't missed anything by putting him on ignore.

 

[jimmyjack]

Ignorant people miss out on many things.

 

[tecoyah]

Ignorant people miss out on many things.

Listen to him...he speaks from experience.

 

[ngdawg]

Listen to him...he speaks from experience.

:lamo :lamo :2rofll:

 

[RightinNYC]

Well it is obvious you are against granting the foetus rights because you are in favour of IVF.

When did I say I was in favor of it?! Simply because it HAPPENS doesn't mean I'm in favor of it. Let's say that I'm a staunchly pro-life firefighter who made his way into the burning fertility clinic. Which do I save?

And for once, please try to separate your own perceptions of what you think my position is and actually answer the question.

 

[jimmyjack]

When did I say I was in favor of it?! Simply because it HAPPENS doesn't mean I'm in favor of it. Let's say that I'm a staunchly pro-life firefighter who made his way into the burning fertility clinic. Which do I save?

And for once, please try to separate your own perceptions of what you think my position is and actually answer the question.

I answered the question along time ago, so since you speak in defence of IVF, I can only assume that you are in favour of it.

 

[Naughty Nurse]

You are failing to understand again.

No, you are failing to make sense again.

 

[jimmyjack]

No, you are failing to make sense again.

At what point do you fail to understand?