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Patricia Heaton Has Lost Potential Roles Because of Her Politics | PopEater.com

Telling me that she has many gay friends and doesn't oppose gay marriage, Patricia gets frustrated being automatically lumped together with other conservatives, a characterization she says has cost her possible work.

"We know for a fact there are some people who have said they wouldn't want to work with us because of our politics," she said, with her husband David Hunt adding, "We get lumped in with lunatics."
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It's really sad to see Hollywood so intolerant of a conservative actress. To be honest though I don't think people should be denied work even if they are anti-SSM.
 
Nobody should be denied work, period. Smacks of the Joe McCarthy malarkey, back in the day. "Are you now, or have you ever ..."
 
It's always been this way. There are Conservatives in Hollywood but many stay in the closet so they can get work. A few do come out, like Janine Turner,and Patricia Heaton, but not many.
Hollywood elites are only tolerant of those who share their political views.
 
I'm glad Patricia spoke out.
 
I think it is a shame that Hollywood is incredibly dogmatic with its liberalism.
However, in other arenas, in other times, one's immediate political views became a source of contention, for both fellow-traveling academic liberals that were perhaps too apologetic for the Communist Party during the 1930s through the 1950s as well as conservatives in academic fields after the counter-culture era.

There are a great many nuances to why people too such positions during those times, and I would not want to deny that I pick sides in those battles now or in the past, but these things must be kept in mind.
 
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Fiddytree said:
I think it is a shame that Hollywood is incredibly dogmatic with its liberalism.
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I just think "Really?? Whose business is it? How can being a conservative possibly matter, as an actor/actress?"
 
BDBoop said:
I just think "Really?? Whose business is it? How can being a conservative possibly matter, as an actor/actress?"
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I'm not entirely too certain, myself, how politics became so infused with Hollywood. I would take a gander that the focus on certain freedoms contained in our constitution became solidly identified with one's livelihood in that profession. At times, it seems like the fine arts really do adopt a somewhat (I temper this a bit, keeping only enough to do a light comparison) philosophical treatment that they are performing a rather significant duty, which challenges the status-quo frequently enough.

I would also guess that the sheer size of the industry and the town with which they are identified would almost necessarily create a sort of default outlook on social and political life.

Then there's the perhaps naive suggestion that actors through their image power or their abilities, believe that somehow their views are intelligently put together...or in the mind of one actor I read: "the skills of the actor creates good minds." I certainly don't subscribe to this suggestion, but it seems to be rather pervasive.
 
Fiddytree said:
I'm not entirely too certain, myself, how politics became so infused with Hollywood. I would take a gander that the focus on certain freedoms contained in our constitution became solidly identified with one's livelihood in that profession. At times, it seems like the fine arts really do adopt a somewhat (I temper this a bit, keeping only enough to do a light comparison) philosophical treatment that they are performing a rather significant duty, which challenges the status-quo frequently enough.

I would also guess that the sheer size of the industry and the town with which they are identified would almost necessarily create a sort of default outlook on social and political life.

Then there's the perhaps naive suggestion that actors through their image power or their abilities, believe that somehow their views are intelligently put together...or in the mind of one actor I read: "the skills of the actor creates good minds." I certainly don't subscribe to this suggestion, but it seems to be rather pervasive.
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There was a time not too long ago when and Actor/Actress kept their Political notions to themselves, and if you think about it the Generation that was active during WW-II were only concerned with being Patriots, but since the Korean, that has been changing.

During Vietnam when Jane Fonda became a traitor, and Walter Cronkite started giving his opinion instead of reporting the news more and more celebrities began to get more and more into politics and using their popularity for all kinds of causes.

More and more those who attend College find themselves inundated with Liberal ideas and it has left Conservatives to be less outspoken because Liberals often go straight to the attack.
 
Councilman said:
During Vietnam when Jane Fonda became a traitor, and Walter Cronkite started giving his opinion instead of reporting the news more and more celebrities began to get more and more into politics and using their popularity for all kinds of causes.
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Jane was right. history proves her right. one is not a traitor for disagreeing. Cronkite broke the back of the war mongers. we owe him enormous thanks.. those of us that think that war without good cause is murder, that is.

but, yes, you are right, because americans suck up to actors, those actors should shelve their 1st amendment rights and swallow their outrage at injustice. it is only fair.

geo.
 
Oh cry me a river she is an actress and she should be happy she is working at all.
 
Geo Patric said:
well... i don't see that she has shown any evidence that she is suffering discrimination because 'hollywood assumes' hommophobia of an evangelical, but... "'Everybody Loves Raymond' star Patricia Heaton"???

doesn't sound like she is suffering from a lack of roles. don't watch the show, but maybe she is just a crappy actress.

geo.
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partisan hack quote of the day. she must be a crappy actress because everyone knows that the liberals in hollywood would never discriminate against anyone :roll:
 
Councilman said:
More and more those who attend College find themselves inundated with Liberal ideas and it has left Conservatives to be less outspoken because Liberals often go straight to the attack.
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reminds me of a rhetorical question by a (conservative) speech teacher regarding why academics and educated people in general tend to be liberal.

i answered, "well, BECAUSE they are educated".

that was one pissed off teacher - mostly at himself for serving up such a cupcake.

geo.
 
Geo Patric said:
Jane was right. history proves her right. one is not a traitor for disagreeing. Cronkite broke the back of the war mongers. we owe him enormous thanks.. those of us that think that war without good cause is murder, that is.

but, yes, you are right, because americans suck up to actors, those actors should shelve their 1st amendment rights and swallow their outrage at injustice. it is only fair.

geo.
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I'd bet a taco you wouldn't be saying that if it was some liberal turd actor/actress crying because they got passed over for a role because they were black or gay.
 
OscarB63 said:
I'd bet a taco you wouldn't be saying that if it was some liberal turd actor/actress crying because they got passed over for a role because they were black or gay.
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Oh gimme a break for every role in Hollywood there is a line out the door for the gig.
 
Geo Patric said:
reminds me of a rhetorical question by a (conservative) speech teacher regarding why academics and educated people in general tend to be liberal.

i answered, "well, BECAUSE they are educated".

that was one pissed off teacher - mostly at himself for serving up such a cupcake.

geo.
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reminds me of a similar question about why most academics tend to be liberal. the old saying "those who can, do. those who can't, teach" always comes to mind. ;)
 
winston53660 said:
Oh gimme a break for every role in Hollywood there is a line out the door for the gig.
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that's not the point.

he's bashing her for crying about it. but if was an actor of his particular lean, he'd be supporting them.
 
OscarB63 said:
that's not the point.

he's bashing her for crying about it. but if was an actor of his particular lean, he'd be supporting them.
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I'm bashing her for crying about it too.
 
OscarB63 said:
I'd bet a taco you wouldn't be saying that if it was some liberal turd actor/actress crying because they got passed over for a role because they were black or gay.
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That happens alot

Many black and asian actor and actress's get passed over for roles because they are not white.


Generally because the studios believe non white actors will reduce sales, not because they are black or asian

Patricia Heaton is a middle aged actress with one good series behind her, she does not have the ability to draw an audience by herself and as such has to compete with thousand of other actress's. Many of whom are younger and better looking

Overall Heaton is not the only middle aged actress who is finding it difficult to find work. Just ask the majority of 40+ actress's who still try to find roles in Hollywood. With the exception of ones who had true star power, Glen Close, Sharon Stone, etc, very few find work. Fewer still as networks have reduced production of family sitcoms
 
OscarB63 said:
reminds me of a similar question about why most academics tend to be liberal. the old saying "those who can, do. those who can't, teach" always comes to mind. ;)
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I think that those who can't critic. How can you teach something if you do not understand it? Can't teach math if you do not understand the equations.
 
tlmorg02 said:
How can you teach something if you do not understand it? Can't teach math if you do not understand the equations.
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there is a difference between teaching the concepts and equations and actually being able to apply them to practical situations.
 
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