Parler gone

[Crunchtime]

During a lengthy live stream on Instagram on Tuesday night, the leader of the so-called "Squad" discussed the aftermath of the Capitol riot, how she feared for her life during the chaos and what needs to be done going forward.

At one point, Ocasio-Cortez read a question from a viewer who asked if there is discussion in Congress on "truth and reconciliation or media literacy initiatives" to help with healing.

"I can say, there is absolutely a commission being discussed but it seems to be more investigatory, in style rather than truth and reconciliation, so I think that’s an interesting concept for us to explore, and I do think that several members of Congress, in some of my discussions, have brought up media literacy because that is a part of what happened here and we’re going to have to figure out how we rein in our media environment so that you can’t just spew disinformation and misinformation," Ocasio-Cortez said.

"Rein in our media environment"? What exactly does that mean? Could it be the precursor to limiting free speech, especially from a "Free Press"? Or the internet? Does that hint at authoritarianism just a little? Thanks be to God for congresswomen like AOC and Pelosi that like good mother figures know what's best for us, the "illiterate" American citizen.

 

[Lursa]

After Twitter sidelined Trump a lot of Twitter users went to Parler. Including me. They had so many new account applications that it was difficult for their platform to handle. Some people, including me, had to go through a browser to connect as the apps weren't able to handle the load. Many conservatives went to Parler. That's true. Twitters stock went down several percentage points. That's true also.

Are they as big as Twitter? No way, but they are unwelcome competition. Twitter responded. Google responded. Amazon responded. You can spin the reason for the response if you want to.

I’m on the side of truth. You think Amazon I honorable then fine. Go ahead and believe them. I don’t, but I don’t feel the need to insult you by calling you dense. And I don’t care what you buy.

"Dishonorable" in what way that isnt common with any other large corporation? Please be specific.

I'm looking at your question, but it really doesn't make sense to me. What other corporations are suppressing free speech like Amazon/Twitter? I never referenced corporations other than to say Amazon is a party to Twitter and their censorship. Look at the title of the OP. The thread is about Parler being black balled, and not about what corporations, and what they might have in common. Its about McCarthyism/Cancel culture in action.

It's not hard to follow the conversation back...that's what the arrows are for. But for a Reader's Digest version, see above.

You were discussing competition. Most/all businesses and large corporations have to deal with competition. The context was you accusing Amazon of 'not acting with honor.'

So I asked you: "Dishonorable" in what way that isnt common with any other large corporation? Please be specific.

 

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It's not hard to follow the conversation back...that's what the arrows are for. But for a Reader's Digest version, see above.

You were discussing competition. Most/all businesses and large corporations have to deal with competition. The context was you accusing Amazon of 'not acting with honor.'

So I asked you: "Dishonorable" in what way that isnt common with any other large corporation? Please be specific.

I don’t know what you’re looking for. Do you want me to say that all corporations are cutthroat where competition is concerned in a capitalistic society? Okay. I think they are. But I have no direct knowledge of it. Do you want me to do some research just to answer your irrelevant question? That’s not going to happen. BTW, your grammar is incorrect. If you expect an acceptable answer you need to rephrase your question. Anyway, I did my best.

ARE THE FOUNDERS OF BLM, MARXISTS?

 

[Lursa]

I don’t know what you’re looking for. Do you want me to say that all corporations are cutthroat where competition is concerned in a capitalistic society? Okay. I think they are. But I have no direct knowledge of it. Do you want me to do some research just to answer your irrelevant question? That’s not going to happen. BTW, your grammar is incorrect. If you expect an acceptable answer you need to rephrase your question. Anyway, I did my best.

ARE THE FOUNDERS OF BLM, MARXISTS?

You made a claim. That Amazon didnt act 'honorably' dealing with competition.

And yes thank you for admitting business is 'cutthroat.' So if that's the case, why were you calling Amazon on it? If they were acting like most other large corporations, why focus on the 'honor' of Amazon? It was a criticism as I read it. If you were trying to make an argument against them kicking Parler off...then them doing what other large corps would have done isnt really an argument. What was the point you were making there?

And: no.

 

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You made a claim. That Amazon didnt act 'honorably' dealing with competition.

And yes thank you for admitting business is 'cutthroat.' So if that's the case, why were you calling Amazon on it? If they were acting like most other large corporations, why focus on the 'honor' of Amazon? It was a criticism as I read it. If you were trying to make an argument against them kicking Parler off...then them doing what other large corps would have done isnt really an argument. What was the point you were making there?

And: no.

The comment I made was multi-faceted, but the context of this thread/OP is free speech. Or if you choose the censorship of Big Tech. That’s the context and it was to that I was referring. You’re making a finer point but it’s not contextual. It’s a rabbit trail.

Black Lives Matter’s three co-founders, who are still featured prominently on the group’s website — Patrisse Cullors, Alicia Garza and Opal Tometi. Their primary backgrounds are as community organizers, artists and writers. Swain, though, was referring to a newlysurfaced interview Cullors did in 2015, where she said:

"We do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers; we are trained Marxists. We are superversed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think what we really try to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many Black folks."

We didn’t find that Garza and Tometi have referred to themselves as Marxists. But the book publisher Penguin Random House has said Garza, an author, "describes herself as a queer social justice activist and Marxist."

 

[Lursa]

The comment I made was multi-faceted, but the context of this thread/OP is free speech. Or if you choose the censorship of Big Tech. That’s the context and it was to that I was referring. You’re making a finer point but it’s not contextual. It’s a rabbit trail.

Any other large corporation, or smaller biz, has the right to control the communications, messaging, branding, etc. coming out of or posted from their official sites. And they also have the right to limit their liability. That's what contracts and licensing are about. As such, Amazon acted in a completely legitimate manner with Parler. Do you agree?

 

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Any other large corporation, or smaller biz, has the right to control the communications, messaging, branding, etc. coming out of or posted from their official sites. And they also have the right to limit their liability. That's what contracts and licensing are about. As such, Amazon acted in a completely legitimate manner with Parler. Do you agree?

Legal but not morally legitimate. Controlling communication is autocratic.

You didn’t respond to my previous post. #980.

Before you deny it be aware that Patrisse Cullors, one of the founding said it, and it’s on YouTube. They are socialists. Marxist trained. Etc.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Legal but not morally legitimate.

You didn’t respond to my previous post. #980.

Before you deny it be aware that Patrisse Cullors, one of the founding said it, and it’s on YouTube. They are socialists. Marxist trained. Etc.

expecting a corporation to be moral? really?

 

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expecting a corporation to be moral? really?

No. Constitutional. I expect these actions by Big Tech to be before the Supreme Court in time.

 

[Lursa]

Legal but not morally legitimate. Controlling communication is autocratic.

You didn’t respond to my previous post. #980.

Before you deny it be aware that Patrisse Cullors, one of the founding said it, and it’s on YouTube. They are socialists. Marxist trained. Etc.

No, it's good business. Having been a technical communications writer for such, I know. Every single biz or corp does it. It's a major contributor TO being competitive. It may be 'autocratic' but that's exactly what organizations with CEOs and Boards and owners are Surely you know this? And that corporations/businesses are quite distinct from govt?

And I answered you...did you miss it? I wrote no. And I dont care who 'founded' the movement. The messaging around BLM is not remotely socialist or Marxist.

LMAO, that's like saying we should still have slavery because several of the Founding Fathers had slaves and disenfranchised them originally in the Const.

 

[The Mark]

At this point I'm wondering if Parler will have to fund and build their own infrastructure to get back online.

 

[ASHES]

At this point I'm wondering if Parler will have to fund and build their own infrastructure to get back online.

Then people would go after their ISP.

 

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No, it's good business. Having been a technical communications writer for such, I know. Every single biz or corp does it. It's a major contributor TO being competitive. It may be 'autocratic' but that's exactly what organizations with CEOs and Boards and owners are Surely you know this? And that corporations/businesses are quite distinct from govt?

And I answered you...did you miss it? I wrote no. And I dont care who 'founded' the movement. The messaging around BLM is not remotely socialist or Marxist.

LMAO, that's like saying we should still have slavery because several of the Founding Fathers had slaves and disenfranchised them originally in the Const.

Okay. It’s your story. I’ll let you tell it, but it’s pure spin. Not socialist? You shot yourself in the foot with that line.

“You don’t care who founded it“, and is leading it? Even though they’re on video saying it? WOW. We’re done.

 

[Lursa]

Okay. It’s your story. I’ll let you tell it, but it’s pure spin. Not socialist? You shot yourself in the foot with that line.

“You don’t care who founded it“, and is leading it? Even though they’re on video saying it? WOW. We’re done.

I said messaging and goals. There's no 'leader' of BLM. There are individuals that speak out. I dont care what they say...there's nothing socialist or Marxist about fighting against racism, altho I suppose such people are welcome to the fight as well.

I see you ignored 'my' example. "Even tho he owned slaves and ensured that blacks were not viewed equally in the Const."

 

[The Mark]

Then people would go after their ISP.

I didn't specify how deep an infrastructure they'd have to build.
Their own ISP?

 

[ASHES]

I didn't specify how deep an infrastructure they'd have to build.
Their own ISP?

Don't think they're that liquid....

 

[eohrnberger]

Post links with reports of riots “at multiple federal buildings for weeks at a time”, or be called out for bull shitting.

Apparently someone who's completely missed the summer long attacks of such in Portland and Seattle.

 

[eohrnberger]

You mean the 2 month siege in Portland, Seattle?

How Portland became nation's hotbed for clashes between protesters and federal agents

Trump slams Oregon governor for not cracking down on "Anarchists & Agitators."

abcnews.go.com

Federal building vandalized during 'Abolish ICE' rally in Lower Manhattan | abc7ny.com

NYPD%20says%20dozens%20of%20protesters%20rallied%20outside%20and%20inside%20of%2026%20Federal%20Plaza%20just%20before%206%20p.m.%2C%20calling%20for%20ICE%20to%20abolished.

abc7ny.com

5 charged with damaging federal buildings during BLM protest | Courts | Crime

Prosecutors announced that five people have been charged with defacing federal buildings in Las Vegas during a Black Lives Matter protest this spring.

www.reviewjournal.com

And there you go.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Apparently someone who's completely missed the summer long attacks of such in Portland and Seattle.

Apparently, you missed the point of my posts.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

You can circle things in red till the cows come home. Amazon is immune from what any posters writes on its servers. Amazon wants control of what Parlor users write on Parlor by using its own AI to control content, which is unacceptable to Parlor and should be.

Then Parler can choose to run thier own servers and do what they want.

Until such a point, its like your parents used to say, if you live under my roof, you live by my rules.

 

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Then Parler can choose to run thier own servers and do what they want.

Until such a point, its like your parents used to say, if you live under my roof, you live by my rules.

Stalin used the Russian language to say the same thing.

 

[Deuce]

"Rein in our media environment"? What exactly does that mean? Could it be the precursor to limiting free speech, especially from a "Free Press"? Or the internet? Does that hint at authoritarianism just a little? Thanks be to God for congresswomen like AOC and Pelosi that like good mother figures know what's best for us, the "illiterate" American citizen.

That's an adorable sentiment from the people who want the US government to seize control of Twitter and Facebook and force them to have no rules whatsoever.

 

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That's an adorable sentiment from the people who want the US government to seize control of Twitter and Facebook and force them to have no rules whatsoever.

No one wants the government “to seize control “ of social media, etc. Most people don’t agree with them having censorship rights, and being in control of the political narrative. Most folks want their right to express themselves protected by needful legislation in this respect.

 

[Tim the plumber]

Gab has been eliminated as well now.

Expect places such as this to be gone very soon.

Then the civil war will really begin.

You will live in fear in 6 months time and be lucky to be alive in 5 years.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Gab has been eliminated as well now.

Expect places such as this to be gone very soon.

Then the civil war will really begin.

You will live in fear in 6 months time and be lucky to be alive in 5 years.

gab is eliminated?