paris bombed in world war 2 (1 Viewer)

[Medusa]

ı had believed that paris was the only one city which wasnt bombed by nazis,but ı came across this link.a guy had posted some pictures which showed the destroyed sight of paris .paris had been bombed by allies becauce of nazi occupation of this city.

Paris under the bombs - SkyscraperCity

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

Large cities are strategic targets, often because of their population, economic, and/or political worth.
In addition, large concentrations of military targets and reserves are often found in large cities.
There's no reason why Paris should be spared

 

[Red_Dave]

I think the confusion here is that Paris got off relatively lightly due to the capitulation, whereas other cities that didn't surrender so quickly where completely flattened. Warsaw is a case in point.

 

[jimbo]

When I was stationed in Heidelberg in the 60's, it was my understanding that Heidelberg was the only city in Europe declared off limits. No bombs fell on the city.

The story was that Heidelberg had no strategic targets, and it was selected to become headquarters for USAREUR. I think it still is today.

 

[chris126]

Paris was not bombed as much as other European cities such as London. Thats probobly why you thought it was not bombed.

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

I think the confusion here is that Paris got off relatively lightly due to the capitulation, whereas other cities that didn't surrender so quickly where completely flattened. Warsaw is a case in point.

Or Rotterdam. Damn, now that city was utterly destroyed

 

[Higgins86]

When I was stationed in Heidelberg in the 60's, it was my understanding that Heidelberg was the only city in Europe declared off limits. No bombs fell on the city.

The story was that Heidelberg had no strategic targets, and it was selected to become headquarters for USAREUR. I think it still is today.

Dresden had no strategic targets

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

Dresden had no strategic targets

No ****. The main objective was the Dresden railway station. The sad thing is, that even after the bombing, it remained standing and was running trains the day after the bombing. All those thousands of deaths, all for nothing

 

[Higgins86]

No ****. The main objective was the Dresden railway station. The sad thing is, that even after the bombing, it remained standing and was running trains the day after the bombing. All those thousands of deaths, all for nothing

not for nothing, RAF had to play catch up from the Civillian deaths during the Blitz.

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

not for nothing, RAF had to play catch up from the Civillian deaths during the Blitz.

Again, ignoring evidence thrown at your face

 

[Red_Dave]

not for nothing, RAF had to play catch up from the Civillian deaths during the Blitz.

Christopher Hitchens (Zeus rest his soul) made an interesting point about this. He argued that the reason that there was no armed resistance against Hitler during WW2 (as there was against Mussolini) is that many of those who would have done so lived in Dresden. The very reason that these districts where bombed is that they where working class districts where houses where packed closely together. As such Dresden had traditionally been a socialist stronghold which Hitler wouldn't even visit because he knew everyone there hated him. Seems to be the same lesson that we are failing to learn in Afghanistan.

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

Christopher Hitchens (Zeus rest his soul) made an interesting point about this. He argued that the reason that there was no armed resistance against Hitler during WW2 (as there was against Mussolini) is that many of those who would have done so lived in Dresden. The very reason that these districts where bombed is that they where working class districts where houses where packed closely together. As such Dresden had traditionally been a socialist stronghold which Hitler wouldn't even visit because he knew everyone there hated him. Seems to be the same lesson that we are failing to learn in Afghanistan.

Never heard about this. Is there a link or something?

 

[Red_Dave]

Never heard about this. Is there a link or something?

I forget where i saw the interview, I'l have a look

Edit it was here somewhere

In Defense of WW2 Part 1 of 5 - YouTube

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

I forget where i saw the interview, I'l have a look

Edit it was here somewhere

In Defense of WW2 Part 1 of 5 - YouTube

I don't have time to watch a stuffy interview. Just summarize it. Would greatly appreciate it if you do.
On second thought, I'm very prejuidiced against Hitchens and think that the man was an idiot, though his recent passing though is regretable, like most deaths

 

[Red_Dave]

I don't have time to watch a stuffy interview. Just summarize it. Would greatly appreciate it if you do.
On second thought, I'm very prejuidiced against Hitchens and think that the man was an idiot, though his recent passing though is regretable, like most deaths

Dresden issue was only mentioned in passing and a sumarry of it would be pretty much what i already gave.

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

Dresden issue was only mentioned in passing and a sumarry of it would be pretty much what i already gave.

Thanks. I'll just take your word for it, but will add it to my list of WWII-related things to research.
(Searches for the list, locates it, *shock*)
My God, there's already 13 more things on the list, including two documentaries, three highly recommended WWII history books, something about German help in the Warsaw Uprising, more details about the Yezhovschina purges, and a couple of other odd things.

 

[Higgins86]

Again, ignoring evidence thrown at your face

lol what evidence are you talking about? The train station? Everyone knows that, but most people with a brain cell also realises that to destroy a train station you do not need to drop 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices on the city.

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

lol what evidence are you talking about? The train station? Everyone knows that, but most people with a brain cell also realises that to destroy a train station you do not need to drop 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices on the city.

I admit that there was a very large element of the want of retaliation and the use of massive night-bombing in the Dresden bombing, but nevertheless, I stand firm by my opinion that there were legitimate targets in Dresden.

 

[Red_Dave]

Thanks. I'll just take your word for it, but will add it to my list of WWII-related things to research.
(Searches for the list, locates it, *shock*)
My God, there's already 13 more things on the list, including two documentaries, three highly recommended WWII history books, something about German help in the Warsaw Uprising, more details about the Yezhovschina purges, and a couple of other odd things.

Let me know what you find. The lack of armed resistance to Nazi Germany compared to Italy etc. is always something I've been curious about, guess the Nazis where just better at what they did.

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

Let me know what you find. The lack of armed resistance to Nazi Germany compared to Italy etc. is always something I've been curious about, guess the Nazis where just better at what they did.

One of the main reasons were the traditional German respect for authoritarian rule and its highly obediant, motivated, efficient bureaucracy.
However, that doesn't mean there weren't armed German resistance. There were many partisan activities in the Baltic and Eastern Europe, the Warsaw Uprising is a famous incident, and many armed resistance groups in Germany such as the Edelweiss Pirates were very active. The chief of the Cologne Gestapo was killed by the Edelweiss Pirates

 

[Higgins86]

The Facebook Version World War II | MakeUseOf Geeky Fun


you guys will like this

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

The Facebook Version World War II | MakeUseOf Geeky Fun


you guys will like this

I like it, would have been happier if they added the Bulge, Stalingrad, Bagration, Kursk, El Alamein, Tobruk, the Italian invasion, Typhoon, the Atlantic, and many more, but again, that will probably make it too long.
It's funny though, though not as funny as the Korean Facebook version of World History.
Maybe I'll post it and translate it

 

[Wiggen]

Christopher Hitchens (Zeus rest his soul) made an interesting point about this. He argued that the reason that there was no armed resistance against Hitler during WW2 (as there was against Mussolini) is that many of those who would have done so lived in Dresden. The very reason that these districts where bombed is that they where working class districts where houses where packed closely together. As such Dresden had traditionally been a socialist stronghold which Hitler wouldn't even visit because he knew everyone there hated him. Seems to be the same lesson that we are failing to learn in Afghanistan.

Except the bombing of Dresden took place in February of 1945. The 'opposition' in Dresden had 12 years to foment an armed resistance against Hitler. Blaming the bombing - which took place two and a half months before the end of the war - for the lack of armed resistance to Hitler seems fairly lame to me.

 

[Red_Dave]

Except the bombing of Dresden took place in February of 1945. The 'opposition' in Dresden had 12 years to foment an armed resistance against Hitler. Blaming the bombing - which took place two and a half months before the end of the war - for the lack of armed resistance to Hitler seems fairly lame to me.

Fair point, but it was near the end when thing kicked off in other European cities, Paris for example.