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Outside looking in: The "Not Fox News" News

Originally posted by SKILMATIC:
Yeo thats what I meant but dont tell ban ok? hehe

Hope all is well billo
No I'm going to PM him and throw in some bullshit I just made up. SKIL, I'm sorry, I thought I was talking to someone else. Nevermind.

How's it hangin' bra?
 
Billo_Really said:
No I'm going to PM him and throw in some bullshit I just made up. SKIL, I'm sorry, I thought I was talking to someone else. Nevermind.

How's it hangin' bra?

:lol: :rofl Its coo. O and its hangin kinda to the right a little also its kinda shrivled with a one ball hangin a little longer then the other.
 
Originally posted by SKILMATIC:
Its coo. O and its hangin kinda to the right a little also its kinda shrivled with a one ball hangin a little longer then the other.
I withdraw the question.
 
Originally posted by teacher:
If it were true folks would have trampled each other for soil samples. It's easily proven and hard to disprove. Words.
Because it is not major news is an example that the media is definately pro-Bush.
 
Billo_Really said:
Although it might seem to contradict the sentence you are refering to, it is still something you will not see on Fox news. But you would have to want to see the point.

what i find most amusing about the assault on Fox News as a Right leaning media is that we all know that
But 90% of the left cannot admit the overwhelming stranglehold the MSM has had on news for decades
and that they LEAN LEFT

seems most everybody agrees that Fox is right of center
but only half the country sees the majority of MSM as left of center
could that be because they tell the news the way the left wants to hear it, and therefor they perceive it as centrist and honest
whereas Fox is just a 'right wing propaganda machine
 
Originally posted by DeeJayH:
what i find most amusing about the assault on Fox News as a Right leaning media is that we all know that
But 90% of the left cannot admit the overwhelming stranglehold the MSM has had on news for decades
and that they LEAN LEFT

seems most everybody agrees that Fox is right of center
but only half the country sees the majority of MSM as left of center
could that be because they tell the news the way the left wants to hear it, and therefor they perceive it as centrist and honest
whereas Fox is just a 'right wing propaganda machine
Aside from his recent rampage with Phil Donahue, O' Reilly seems to be getting more centrist. I'm not saying he is, but some of his comments indicate he is moving that way. At least for those few comments. I still watch him for a good laugh. Hannity is still a little White House bitch!

What is MSM? Do you mean MSN? Please clarify.
 
Billo_Really said:
Aside from his recent rampage with Phil Donahue, O' Reilly seems to be getting more centrist. I'm not saying he is, but some of his comments indicate he is moving that way. At least for those few comments. I still watch him for a good laugh. Hannity is still a little White House bitch!

What is MSM? Do you mean MSN? Please clarify.

sorry about that
MSM = Main Stream Media
ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, PBS, NPR, NYTimes, LATimes, etc....

as far as hannity, he is about as far right as it gets, without being militant/fanatical
He definitely tows the party line
hes out there, but he is no Ann Coulter
that is why he is balanced out by Combs
Alan always gives me a good laugh, except i think he is a retired comedian, and is not trying to be funny :mrgreen: ;)
 
cnredd said:
Iran still stoning women, says Nobel Laureate
By Mark Willacy, for 'AM'

A leading Iranian human rights lawyer and Nobel Laureate says that the hardline Islamic regime is still using medieval punishments on its people, including the stoning of women for adultery and the torture of dissidents.

Shirin Ebadi has also attacked last week's presidential election, saying the result is not a true reflection of the will of the people.

Ms Ebadi strikes fear into the hearts of the hardline clerics who run Iran's Islamic regime.

A graduate of solitary confinement in one of the regime's jails, the Nobel Laureate refused to vote in last week's presidential election.

She is angry that the powerful, but unelected, Guardian Council disqualified hundreds of Iranians from standing in the poll.

"Whoever wants to become a candidate should have the right to become a candidate, including women," she said through a translator.

"Candidates should be from different ranges of thought. For instance in Iran if someone is a socialist he or she cannot be a candidate.

"Or if anyone is critical of the constitution, he or she is barred from standing.

"The most important issue is that people are not free to chose the election candidates. The candidates need to be approved first by the Guardian Council."

Ms Ebadi is one of just a few Iranians brave enough to speak out against the regime.

She has represented family members of murdered dissidents, women on death row for adultery, and writers accused of blaspheming the regime.

"At the moment some of the journalists and writers are in prison," she said.

"Two of my clients, because they expressed their opinions, they are in prison and they are now on a hunger strike. They are in bad physical condition and I am worried."

In Tehran's main bazaar there was a standard response when AM asked about human rights.

"Ask me another question," said one woman.

But one man was willing to answer the question.

"Human rights are important to me and it's an issue for our country because human rights are not practised in Iran," he says.

Ms Ebadi is particularly concerned about the treatment of women by the regime.

She cites the punishment meted out to women convicted of adultery.

"Unfortunately stoning exists in our law. According to the law, the punishment for adultery is to be stoned," she said.

"You bury the person up to their waist and then you throw small stones at them until they die. The stones should not be very big so that the person suffers before dying.

"I think this comes from the wrong interpretation of Islam."

Two Iranian women are facing imminent execution for adultery.

One is sentenced to flogging and then hanging while the other will be buried up to her waist and then stoned to death.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200506/s1395803.htm

I am skeptical about stories from the Mediawhores, which are now ALL owned by corporations. I have couple of examples from real life, which demonstrate to me, that the media is whipping up a frenzy, and what for? Because the mass media in the US is owned by the warmongers.

Example 1 - My boss is from Iran, and has been in the US since 1980. 2 years ago, his daughter, after receiving her degree from the University of Montreal, went to Iran to teach classes to women. She was allowed to do that by Iran's government.

Example 2 - Guess who the most famous lawyer in Iran is? Her name is Ebadi. Thats right - HER - She is a woman, and she has won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Yes, there are religious extremists in Iran, much like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and other extremists here. Iran itself is going through a struggle, much like the struggle that is currently going on in the US and has for quite some time. Dont forget that blacks were lynched by "God fearing Christians". Gays have been murdered by them too. And we have always had our share of so called "Evangelists" who have been pushing their madness.

What is boils down to is that there are hypocrites in every religion, and we are not outside the box either. As far as government is concern, Iran has succeeded in merging religion and government, where the US has failed to do so. Does not mean that the wolves here in the USA wont be successful if we are not diligent in resisting them. You will know if they succeed here when the books once more begin burning, along with those who are judged by the hypocrites as "immoral" people. By then, it will be too late. The ayatollahs will have won again, right here in our own back yard.
 
Originally posted by danarhea:
I am skeptical about stories from the Mediawhores, which are now ALL owned by corporations. I have couple of examples from real life, which demonstrate to me, that the media is whipping up a frenzy, and what for? Because the mass media in the US is owned by the warmongers.
There is no better example of this than the lack of coverage the protests got in Washington. 200,000+ people showed up to protest against the war and yet you hardley see any mention of it on the news. As a footnote, 200+ people showed up in a counter-protest for the war.
 
Billo_Really said:
There is no better example of this than the lack of coverage the protests got in Washington. 200,000+ people showed up to protest against the war and yet you hardley see any mention of it on the news. As a footnote, 200+ people showed up in a counter-protest for the war.
Oh yes, lets suppress hurricane victims to promote an agenda! Say hi to the NAACP for me, I'm sure Jesse Jackson would have a response to that! :aliens1:
 
Those articles make vlalid points, but I don't see how one news agency is worst then the other.
 
tfarino said:
Those articles make vlalid points, but I don't see how one news agency is worst then the other.
Exactly! They are just as guilty as another!
 
Originally Posted by stsburns:
Oh yes, lets suppress hurricane victims to promote an agenda! Say hi to the NAACP for me, I'm sure Jesse Jackson would have a response to that!
I don't think more coverage of the anti-war protest rallys has anything to do with suppressing hurricane victims. But it does have a lot to do with conservative media bias.
 
stsburns said:
Oh yes, lets suppress hurricane victims to promote an agenda! Say hi to the NAACP for me, I'm sure Jesse Jackson would have a response to that! :aliens1:

Actually, the media is dedicating infinitely more time to the hurricane victims then the anti-war protesters. I don't know what news channel you're watching?
 
Originally Posted by tfarino:
Those articles make vlalid points, but I don't see how one news agency is worst then the other.
I'll agree to your statement while stsburns can go hungry. Their all about the same. Conservative and bias towards the administration.
 
Billo_Really said:
I'll agree to your statement while stsburns can go hungry. Their all about the same. Conservative and bias towards the administration.
Yes, I know Fox News is Conservate, WTF are you babies crying about? Of course they aren't going to help anti-war protesters. It would be like Lou Dobs (CNN), started supporing Bush. Which would never happen. So while you stay up at night and think about my post, and try to find a way to defy it, remember this. If you want bias and drama, you go ahead and watch major media groups. But don't compalain to me because their "Bias", because you can't say I didn't tell you so! :angel?:
 
kal-el said:
Actually, the media is dedicating infinitely more time to the hurricane victims then the anti-war protesters. I don't know what news channel you're watching?
C-span, because they know what really matters! No one sided :bs that you are used to watching!
 
Billo_Really said:
I don't think more coverage of the anti-war protest rallys has anything to do with suppressing hurricane victims. But it does have a lot to do with conservative media bias.
Yes, sempethize with anti-war protesters? You can't be biased BillO_Really? /sarcastic
 
Originally Posted by stsburns
Yes, sempethize with anti-war protesters? You can't be biased BillO_Really?
If you want sympathy, you will find it between sh!t and syphallus in the dictionary.
 
Billo_Really said:
If you want sympathy, you will find it between sh!t and syphallus in the dictionary.
Actually put that statement in one of your hands, put your wish in the other hand, and see which one fills up first. :mrgreen:
 
teacher said:
Simple question folks. I can produce more stories of success in Iraq than you can failures. But the question is, would you believe them?

simpletons will abound,and when the big one hits in their home town .They will
weep and nash their teeth ,with the rest of us.MY only hope, is that they too, will see with eyes, that don't tell them lies.So they will know for who,and for what they die.
 
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all the jesters dance among the donkeys and the elephants while
US democracy: the best government "THE MONEYED” can buy .
America's "Patriots" champion the "nobility cause" for the aristocracy

America's aritocracy is made up of bums;nazis,torturers,with off shore billion $ bank accounts. and pay little to no taxes !
and plot CIa schemes

All of your history is BUNK

LISTEN to HENRY FORD A man of the people a REAL AMERICAN everywhere in the americas
FIND A VIDEO OF his 80th birthday ! look at him ,as on his 80th birthday .
He looked stone cold into the camera and says with his near dying breath.
"ALL OF HISTORY IS BUNK" refering to America's history.
His message to his brother and sister Americans,so there would be record of it from him to you for all time.


and you stand agape . under the harlots gates !

:3oops: usa
this is your darkest hour
this day will live on in infamy
vietnam REDUX x10,000
 
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A letter from Iraq

“I hear Amnesty International is campaigning for Human Rights in the new Iraqi draft constitution? How wonderful that they are concerned about our human rights in the future... but what about now? Why doesn’t Amnesty International campaign or at least say something about the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis who are held for months, years in the American prisons, without the least rights? The known and the unknown prisons inside and outside Iraq? Why don’t they do something about the hundreds of Iraqis, whose bodies are found every day on the garbage piles, with evidences of horrible torture on their bodies after they had been disappeared for a few days? What about the miserable life the Iraqi government is giving the Iraqis for months now, in every field? Does Amnesty International consider the rewriting of the constitution now a legal process? Obviously it does, but on what bases? The war and occupation of Iraq are illegal (even Kofi Annan said it). Who wrote the draft? A member of the writing committee admitted that a draft was sent from the US. So, how far is this legal?

I would like to ask Amnesty International one question: why is it so necessary to write a new constitution for Iraq now? All the political parties, the government, the National Assembly, the media ..etc are preoccupied with the (controversial points) in the constitution for months now, and will be for the next few months. Meanwhile, the country is full of problems: the security, the services, the economy, the environment, the corruption, the Human Rights conduct of the Iraqi government... to mention only few ..two days ago I went to a dentist compound, one of the biggest in Baghdad, where at least 50 dentists work. They could not pull out my tooth because they did not have anesthetic...a very common problem in the Iraqi hospitals for months. Too bad for my teeth, but imagine with emergency cases?

In Tallafar families did not get the food ration, neither any other food since the beginning of this year. In many Iraqi towns, the majority, there is no authority, no law, no police, no courts, only the armed militias and their political parties. Racial cleansing has begun in many parts of Iraq. The government in the heavily fortified Green Zone is very busy working on the constitution.

During the last attack on Haditha, for more than two weeks, all the news programs, the dialogue, the forums were focused on the constitution and in the meantime an Iraqi major city was practically slaughtered. No one said a word about it as if it was happening on the moon. Do you think that this is just a coincidence? And, by the way, it happened and is happening continuously in other places.

There are so many problems in Iraq now, so many crimes committed daily, where innocent people are killed, arrested, tortured… Why is it so important to neglect all these crimes and be busy with the constitution? Why is it so urgent?

Saddam did not write the Iraqi constitution, and if there were some changes or resolutions added to it during the last 30 years, they can be cancelled, simple. We can keep our constitution until we have a proper government and national assembly. After we are done with the most urgent problems, we can take our time writing the most humanitarian and progressive constitution in the world!

Maybe more dangerous is the fact that rewriting the constitution now is deepening the divisions between the Iraqis and pushing them to the verge of civil war, because some of them were given guarantees to participate in the political process, which they refused in the beginning, and after they agreed, the guarantees proved to be untrue. Now these groups are saying that they were deceived, and they reject the draft presented to the National Assembly. All these problems are for what? Just to help Bush look more successful in Iraq, to give him more diplomatic credit?

To hold the election, thousands of people were killed and the entire city of Fallujah was demolished. Now, what is needed to impose a constitution? A civil war ?"

Can’t you see that it is a game? The political parties and ethnic, sectarian groups are taking the chance of imposing a constitution convenient to their interests, and their masters interests, not the interests of Iraq. I am not saying this out of my own prejudice, no, they admit it themselves, openly. And by the way, there is a very unhealthy, non-objective atmosphere in which this constitution is written, which is something very expected and normal in the current situation. But it is not the right way to write a constitution.

I know very well who are the friends and the enemies of Iraq and its people. I have nothing against any international organization. On the contrary, I, personally, am badly in need of an international organization that can help me in my campaign on the Missing. I want these organizations to come here and work on the violations that the occupation did and is doing in Iraq. We need them badly to see what the occupation is covering by rewriting the constitution. We need them to campaign for releasing the innocent, or at least giving them some rights in prison, not to campaign for a political process built on the wrong basis.

The problem is that the world is asking somebody who is burning in fire to scream in a low voice. Have you experienced living with death all around you, with fear of everything and everybody, with the horrible stories and pictures of what some Iraqis are facing? Excuse my frustration, with my respect to all the international organizations which defend Human Rights. “


http://www.brusselstribunal.org/AmnestyLetter.htm
I'm afraid that if We the People do not reverse the insanity of our illegal aggression into Iraq, we will be heading towards our own Nuremburg. Or, our own glow in the dark country if we keep attacking sovereign nations. Because sooner or later were going to run into a country that has a few more weapons than IED's and car bombs at their disposal. A hard rain is going to fall if we don't stop this bullshit my American countryman. Attacking Iraq was not a mistake, it was anti-American. Kennedy had his Bay of Pigs. Now Bush has his Bay of Punks. And its our fault!
 
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