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Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

Is our civilisation pathetic?

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Hypersonic said:
However if you are the type to call this planet crap and you aren't making any changes, you should kill yourself because you are in the way of progress
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Strongly disagree. Bad form. Inappropriate and overly negative views of the self, the world and the future are hallmark features of depressive disorders, which tend to be episodic and very treatable conditions. Suicide ends the illness but it also ends a life. The guilt, shame and negativity Maximus has been sharing is not necessarily a permanent attitude or condition. I don't think he should kill himself just because he has some of that going on. He just needs to process through it and, in all hope and likelihood, he'll come out okay on the other end and see things a little more balanced. I'll probably always disagree with him politically, but that's no reason to wish death upon him.
 

Sorry I hear this all the time...

"Oh woe is me, life is unfair. the world is bad."

I feel as a person who works in a hospital who hears this everyday, if life is that bad and you see no light in the world end it. But don't complain about a world in which you are actively not trying to change. Change can be anything. A smile, buy a dog some food. Helping an old man across the street.


The world sucks for a lot of people but one part of humanity is that there are humans who try to make a difference.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Because they hate anyone who has different beliefs than they do, of course.
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That's an oversimplification. They would all have to be morons to be motivated by nothing other than that. They believe their acts are justified because their God tells them to do it, or their religious leaders tell them to do it. They believe they are doing "what is right" So to them it is acting on gods word and should not be judged the same as a senseless act of violence would be. Sound familiar?
 
My best e-bud from my old political forum was a nihilist too. I met him in an MMO and he dragged me to political debate.

He was kinda interesting and funny.
 

I relate to your irritation with the complaining and I too have worked in hospitals (ER). People just want their own misery to go away, and others want the incessant complaining to go away. But to a depressed person, the attitude doesn't just change by being told to change it. Some people think their unrealistic thoughts are realistic and to them it's their philosophy. They cling to that negative philosophy, they don't want to give it up or be re-oriented, because they think they're right, but it makes them all the more miserable.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Ahh, I love it when person B tells person A what the opinion of person A is.
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Do you understand that a sentence which opens with the words DO YOU and then ending in a question mark indicates a question to you rather than me telling you what your opinion is?
 

I never said there wasnt any good people.

I suggest the same as you then, if you are one of the people making this planet a worse place.
 
Neomalthusian said:
Now check this out:



No, it really truly is not your tree. Do you see where you just criticized people for laying claim to others' resources... and then did exactly that yourself?
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You are laying claim to the resources of this planet.
 




I agree.

I'm 70-years old and that has been going on as far back as I can remember and I see no reason to believe that it will stop anytime soon.

It may, but I doubt it.




[B]"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers.[/B]
 

Judging by the way you live and think, you should have all that going on.

Personally I have none of that going on, I just feel ashamed being a human being, living in such a civilisation.

I feel even more ashamed when I am on this forum and seeing what people write here.
 

An analyses of someone who is probably not at all familiar with the reality of the situaiton they talk about.

Perhaps the reality is completely different than the one you think. What is your take on normal white western terrorists?
 
ecofarm said:
, the fat ........ will continue to complain about society forever.
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Come on,Man, that's just not fair. Compared to you, that's 99.9736% of all humanity.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I never said there wasnt any good people.

I suggest the same as you then, if you are one of the people making this planet a worse place.
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I actually try to make a difference. I go out of my way to help people, animals included. When you're shot in the chest I am the one helping you on that gurney and grant it, it's not a part of my job description but I do it. When you say this world is pathetic you talk about any and everything in it, including those responding here.

Let me ask you. What are you doing to change the world besides complaining about it?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I just feel ashamed being a human being, living in such a civilisation.

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If you think that's bad, just try imagining the chagrin of those in your civilization at the realization you are in it.
 

If you are sick of being human why exist? If you are ashamed at what you see on the forum why participate?
 
Our civilisation is pathetic.

Variety is the spice of life. I'll choose the mish mash we have that can be viewed as a success or failure or anything in between over a single minded utopia a thousand times over.
 
Gardener said:
Come on,Man, that's just not fair. Compared to you, that's 99.9736% of all humanity.
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I'll have you know that I'm proud not only of my muscles but also my bit of belly fat.
 

Sounds like you want the job to be finished now, mission accomplished, brush the dust off your hands and crack a cold one.
There's lots to do yet, but there's progress being made. The world's better today than it was yesterday (yesterday being a couple thousand years or so ago) and it'll be better still tomorrow (being a couple thousand years from now).
In other words, patience, Grasshopper. You have much to learn yet, as have we all.
 

Good afternoon, Polgara.
You are correct, the devil is in the details, and anyone wanting the job would be disqualified.:mrgreen:
I think it is pessimistic to disregard all of the progress made to this point.
There is always room to improve, but more progress was made between 1900 and 2000,
than in the 2000 years before.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
An analyses of someone who is probably not at all familiar with the reality of the situaiton they talk about.

Perhaps the reality is completely different than the one you think. What is your take on normal white western terrorists?
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I don't condone, I condemn the behavior no matter how justified you think it is. I am merely pointing out that MOST people take such actions because they think they are on the side of RIGHT; because this is their perception the ends justifies the means. It does not of course.
 

Nah, thats great.

But you clearly have absolutely no idea what I am talking about so I don't know what you are doing in this thread then.

Best of luck to you in this world. I never said anything about individuals. This is not about you, or any other single individuals.
 

How do you know that?

Or do you just guess?
 
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