Ottawa's core locked down as police prepare to move on protesters

[Carjosse]

When did ottowa become a police state? You're not allowed to protest in Canada?

You can protest, but not occupy a city and border crossings.

 

[Allan]

This is interesting news and I'm hoping some Canadians will express how they feel about this. The ability of the government to freeze one's assets was the most disturbing part of the EA to several posters. Some or maybe just one poster thought only accounts of 2-3 leaders would experience this penalty.
Now we have this info posted. How do the Canadian poster feel about this news?

Most Canadians on this thread seem to be hesitant to defend this step. I don't think it was necessary.

 

[CLAX1911]

Every day there's protests, including at Parliament. You can't close bridges or roads. Same as in the US.

So it is illegal to protest in Canada? I'm just curious when it became a police state.

 

[CLAX1911]

You can protest, but not occupy a city and border crossings.

So you can protest as long as you do it out of sight and out of mind meaning you can't protest.

The point of a protest is to gain visibility.

 

[gbg3]

When did ottowa become a police state? You're not allowed to protest in Canada?

Monday!!!!!

 

[SkyFox76]

The debate was today in The House. The vote is Monday and it's sure to pass The House. The Senate then votes on it, likely Tuesday. That will also pass and once the GG signs it (Tuesday or Wednesday) it's considered passed.

So they're shutting the barn door after the horses have left? How does it work to not have it passed yet but take actions as though it already is?

 

[CLAX1911]

Monday!!!!!

Well Trudeau became a tyrant when he said those that disagree with him hold unacceptable views

 

[gbg3]

Most Canadians on this thread seem to be hesitant to defend this step. I don't think it was necessary.

Are you surprised to learn how many people it has happened to so far?

 

[SkyFox76]

It hasn't taken place yet.

So to me, that's like telling people there will be a law in effect come next week, but we're going to start enforcing it this week.

 

[Chomsky]

I don't expect to change minds but maybe this can help put the border vaccine mandates in perspective.

Canada has a very different outlook on our healthcare system and healthcare workers. We are all financially, practically and probably emotionally invested in our Universal Healthcare system. I would say the primary focus of all levels of government through Covid has been to protect that system from being overwhelmed by Covid.

These additional border mandates were put in place as Omicron was surging and wasn't well understood. It was not meant to stop the spread of the virus but to mitigate the numbers admitted to the hospital. As a result of this, and other Provincial mandates, our hospitals made it through Omicron without serious impacts on healthcare. At no point was Ontario, the largest Province and point of entry for most truckers, at a point they exceeded capacity limits. I follow American news closely and that cannot be said of many, many States.

Now the time has come to reevaluate not because of this occupation but because the metrics are clear, the worst is behind us. Mandates are being lifted in a logical progression and the results monitored. That is our nature, we have a shared concern and commitment to each other and our communities. We aren't a country of "me" but rather of "we". It's not right or wrong, just different.

And the irony, given the context of the bolded, is the U.S. cultural idiom is the "Melting Pot", with Canada being the, "Mosaic".

Yet you guys seem to be doing a better job at unity, despite this recent truck thing.

 

[Allan]

So they're shutting the barn door after the horses have left? How does it work to not have it passed yet but take actions as though it already is?

The Act is written in such as way as to consider that in an emergency Parliamentary oversight might not be immediately possible. So the PM can use the Act but the guardrail is there to insure that it's fully reviewed by Parliament without unreasonable delay.

An example of where the Act might be used would be a natural disaster that is beyond the means of any effected Province to deal with, at a time when Parliament is in recess. The PM can use the Act to marshal resources not within the control of the Province (such as the armed forces).

 

[Allan]

So to me, that's like telling people there will be a law in effect come next week, but we're going to start enforcing it this week.

The law is already in effect, and has been since 1988.

 

[SkyFox76]

Everytime I bring this feed up there are more people. So again, what happened to "we're not allowing protesters into the area"? (sorry it's blurry, the cold is raging on some of the live stream cameras)

 

[SkyFox76]

The law is already in effect, and has been since 1988.

Then what are they voting to pass?

 

[Allan]

Are you surprised to learn how many people it has happened to so far?

I'm not. I could see that a pretty wide net was being cast. I think the courts are going to throw all the cases out.

 

[Chomsky]

So has everyone played WORDLE today

Yes.

The word is,

T-R-U-C-K-S

 

[gbg3]

Well Trudeau became a tyrant when he said those that disagree with him hold unacceptable views

Monday's the day he made it truly official that he's a tyrant. Monday will certainly become a permanent part of Canada's history.

 

[CLAX1911]

Monday's the day he made it truly official that he's a tyrant. Monday will certainly become a permanent part of Canada's history.

I wonder what happens when he interferes with something left wants. What happens when he calls them terrorists.

 

[SkyFox76]

The Act is written in such as way as to consider that in an emergency Parliamentary oversight might not be immediately possible. So the PM can use the Act but the guardrail is there to insure that it's fully reviewed by Parliament without unreasonable delay.

An example of where the Act might be used would be a natural disaster that is beyond the means of any effected Province to deal with, at a time when Parliament is in recess. The PM can use the Act to marshal resources not within the control of the Province (such as the armed forces).

Okay

 

[Allan]

Then what are they voting to pass?

The review of its implementation. The Act is already law and the PM can trigger it, with the provision that any use has to be justified before Parliament (House & Senate). If he doesn't do that, or it didn't pass both houses it's implementation would immediately end after the 7th day.

 

[trixare4kids]

There's a difference between calling someone a nazi because you don't like a policy decision and calling someone a nazi when they're literally putting a nazi flag on their truck.

I don't think there is any excuse for calling anyone a Nazi unless one knows for sure that they are. Trudeau signed a Nazi flag years back. Does that make him a Nazi? A very tiny minority were seen brandishing swastikas and misappropriating the star of David but that didn't stop PM Blackface from labeling the majority fringe, racists, unpopular and violent. Nothing violent about that protesting crowd according to the police.

 

[gbg3]

And the irony, given the context of the bolded, is the U.S. cultural idiom is the "Melting Pot", with Canada being the, "Mosaic".

Yet you guys seem to be doing a better job at unity, despite this recent truck thing.

We'll see how Canada looks, going forward, after "this recent truck thing". And we'll see if the truckers will regroup and continue to pursue their freedom mission against who has now demonstrated he is a VERY unreasonable leader.

 

[CLAX1911]

The review of its implementation. The Act is already law and the PM can trigger it, with the provision that any use has to be justified before Parliament (House & Senate). If he doesn't do that, or it didn't pass both houses it's implementation would immediately end after the 7th day.

He wouldn't have needed to do that if he had just done his job as a leader and tried to work with the protesters. Instead it goes on for weeks because he is a petulant child. Why would anyone in Canada support this ass clown he made the problem. Then he went completely insane instead of dealing with him.

 

[Deuce]

I don't think there is any excuse for calling anyone a Nazi.

I don't need an excuse to call someone a Nazi when they have chosen to label themselves Nazis.

 

[gbg3]

He wouldn't have needed to do that if he had just done his job as a leader and tried to work with the protesters. Instead it goes on for weeks because he is a petulant child. Why would anyone in Canada support this ass clown he made the problem. Then he went completely insane instead of dealing with him.

100% agreement from me about Trudeau.