Yes, and that was not Obama's image on TV last night. It was a 3-D photoshop of a Kenyan. Obama doesn't really exist. :mrgreen:
Tune to those stations I listed. it's like two different stories are being told.
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What stations?
go to iTune radio, tune to 770Wabc, 880cbs, 1010wins, 660 the fan, 710wor, and listen for yourself. Many family members are calling in and stating what I feel.
no they are not unique, Neither is my aunts or my friends who I have been in contact with.
elation, and rejoicing, are far to strong. I am happy that mothervucker is dead, but closure? "rejoicing" "elation"? hardley, these folks are still dead.... America, **** yeah!
But lets put it in perspective.
You may have mis-spelled General Joseph Ralston there. You also seem to have mis-spelled the Pakistani military.That was an awful lot of money to waste on probing camel-ass. Too bad Madeleine Albright called ahead to warn bin Laden the missiles were coming.
What's OC got to do with this? What proof do you have that Albright was the reason Osama wasn't there when the missiles hit?
You may have mis-spelled General Joseph Ralston there. You also seem to have mis-spelled the Pakistani military.
The thinking was that if Pakistan thought the missiles were coming from India nuclear could have broken out. Also, iirc, the alert to the Pakistanis was after the missiles were in the air.
A DNA match confirms Osama bin Laden was killed, a senior administration official tells CNN
He's the guy who actually talked to the Pakistanis and told them to expect the missiles in their airspace.Are you claiming a mere General is responsible for representing US foreign policy to the world?
But no less significant. Some people are able to find closure in certain actions, others are not. Nothing wrong with that.
The Pakistani's actively support terrorism and they are only called "allies" as a morale boost for them.
Well obviously not all of those in Pakistan or the Pakistani state otherwise the army would not have been fighting the Taliban. Like I say in order for Bin Laden to live in a mansion in a military town he would need the support of some elements of the military/ISI, and its clear from wikileaks etc. that some elements of the ISI are arming the Taliban. However its unclear whether this is being mandatated by the elected government or whether this is a case of certain factions doing whatever they please. Possibly its a case of the Taliban/Al Qaeda infiltrating the ISI or possibly its a case of the military giving some support the Taliban and Al Qaeda in order to justify intrusive role in Pakistani politics, who knows? Its intresting you brought this up as it reminds me alot of the Ergenekon case in Turkey.
By a few accounts I've read, this action was based on intelligent that has been shaping up since 2006. I think both Bush and Obama deserve an "atta boy" on this one. It would not have been wise for either of them to provide a weekly update of intelligence, or of the progress on tracking Osama. That's like telling the your mom you're throwing her a surprise party next Tuesday. We knew nothing of Obama's actions since 2009 when he took office in regards to Osama. We knew nothing or little of Bush's actions, either.
To say "Bush failed, hahahahahahaha, Obama's a strategist GOD" is a bit....unrealistic. Osama has a very small circle. He uses that circle to do all of his communicating. He keeps few people "in the know" about himself. He disavows modern technology. It isn't like tracing my IP address and knowing I'm in Carrollton, TX right now. You have to rely on word of mouth from people we can't really trust. I get why it took so long to get him...I wish it hadn't..but I get it.
go to iTune radio, tune to 770Wabc, 880cbs, 1010wins, 660 the fan, 710wor, and listen for yourself. Many family members are calling in and stating what I feel.
no they are not unique, Neither is my aunts or my friends who I have been in contact with.
elation, and rejoicing, are far to strong. I am happy that mothervucker is dead, but closure? "rejoicing" "elation"? hardley, these folks are still dead.... America, **** yeah!
But lets put it in perspective.
The thing is that Bush openly declared that he didn't care where bin Laden was, that he wasn't that concerned, that he wasn't really looking for him. Intel from 2006? Why wasn't our attention focused on that intel at the time? Why did the intel take that long to come in? If Bush had been diligent on tracking down bin Laden he probably would have been dead before Obama ever took office. But instead, Bush just didn't care about bin Laden. I've no doubt the intel was coming in while Bush was still President. But Bush wasn't worried about it. He had "bigger" problems, like invading countries that posed not danger to us, and granting amnesty to millions of criminals illegally invading our borders.
Which is exactly what psychologists say generally about the death penalty. It doesn't bring closure. It does bring, however, in many...the feelings that you and your family are experiencing. I'm not in favor of the death penalty...and my preference would have been for Bin Laden to be brought to justice and to rot away in a cell for the rest of his life...but different people feel differently.
Which is exactly what psychologists say generally about the death penalty. It doesn't bring closure. It does bring, however, in many...the feelings that you and your family are experiencing. I'm not in favor of the death penalty...and my preference would have been for Bin Laden to be brought to justice and to rot away in a cell for the rest of his life...but different people feel differently.
I personally am of the opinion that he would've been ever more glorified and viewed as a martyr if he had been capture alive and processed through our legal system...just look at the fact that we don't even know how to deal with guys like KSM yet.
Or perhaps he was simply trying to keep the hunt low-key. If Bin Laden meant anything to the movement (and I'm sure he did), I can't imagine it making our hunt any easier by emphasizing how fixated we are on it every single time the question is asked.
I already said I feel like this should have happened sooner...but even Obama (who has, in all honesty, made some pretty childish remarks about the other side, specifically Bush) has creditted Bush (and apparently even Clinton, though I'm going off anecdotal evidence on that one) with what he did to facilitate this kill.
I lean pretty far right on everything except equal rights, but I'm absolutely tired of this idea that a leader can't be good if they aren't from my side. I abhor much of Obama's policy; it isn't in line with what I think is best for the country...but he has done some good. Bush had flubs, made mistakes, mixed his messages sometimes...but the search for Osama was going on under the RADAR long before Obama's team took over. Without intelligence gathered during Bush's era we wouldn't have captured Osama, per articles on multiple websites (citing that intelligence from the Bush era spurred new investigations).
Desert Fox was Iraq, 1998 buddy. I'm talkin Khost province, 1999.
Edit: I admit that if you want to take someone like bin Laden out, cruise missiles probably aren't the best solution because time is too big a factor to ignore. But my point is Clinton DID try to take out OBL, even being described by Robert Oakley as being "obsessed" with Osama.
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