"Open Skies" Treaty Withdrawal...

[Quag]

Like getting shot down over Russia?

With the treaty that shouldnt happen, without the treaty.....

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

We couldn't sell off the 100's of KC-135's that we already have sitting in the desert bone yards right now.

Those are flying gas tanks, yes? Kinda sorta maybe a wee bit different than a spy-plane, yes?

 

[RetiredUSN]

Those are flying gas tanks, yes? Kinda sorta maybe a wee bit different than a spy-plane, yes?

The spy equipment can be ripped out in a day, which renders the plane as just another high cost maintenance burden on the tax payer if we were to keep it in service.

 

[bongsaway]

They are old planes that no longer have any useful function.

Your list of excuses seems to be endless. Are you one of those folks I saw wearing an I'd rather be russian than a democrat t-shirts?

 

[bongsaway]

The spy equipment can be ripped out in a day, which renders the plane as just another high cost maintenance burden on the tax payer if we were to keep it in service.

Let's just cut the military budget in half and use that money to help we the people instead of destroying planes we still use.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

By all means remove the US from NATO. They can then kiss goodbye to all the military assistance, intelligence gathering and other support they get from former allies.

I almost find it morbidly funny that John Milius based "Red Dawn" on the plot that "leftists" weakened our government to the point where NATO collapses, emboldening Russia to attack. And yet here we are, IN REALITY and Milius' daughter Amanda now works IN the Trump White House, and has a film under her belt (a real POS) called "The Plot Against the President" which catapults self-unawareness into a generational spectacle.
Milius patris et filia are not only 180 degrees WRONG on the original premise, they are now actively enabling the exact opposite.

DISCLAIMER: My first wife was formerly married to one of the producers of the original Milius film (1984) "Red Dawn", Barry Beckerman.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Let's just cut the military budget in half and use that money to help we the people instead of destroying planes we still use.

Well, it turns out we will probably be selling them instead.
That does make a lot more sense because it's not like these are burn pit items.

 

[RetiredUSN]

Your list of excuses seems to be endless. Are you one of those folks I saw wearing an I'd rather be russian than a democrat t-shirts?

They are old planes.

Let's just cut the military budget in half and use that money to help we the people instead of destroying planes we still use.

The US military decommission planes every single day for a reason.

I'll leave it up to you to go read and learn why.

 

[bongsaway]

Well, it turns out we will probably be selling them instead.
That does make a lot more sense because it's not like these are burn pit items.

Selling them is better than destroying them.

 

[bongsaway]

They are old planes.



The US military decommission planes every single day for a reason.

I'll leave it up to you to go read and learn why.

I know about the boneyards in the desert which has zero to do with what trump is doing.

 

[RetiredUSN]

Well, it turns out we will probably be selling them instead.
That does make a lot more sense because it's not like these are burn pit items.

These perfectly good planes were flown into the bone yard also. Along with 1000's of others.

 

[Quag]

These perfectly good planes were flown into the bone yard also. Along with 1000's of others.

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What do B52s have to do with spy planes?

 

[RetiredUSN]

What do B52s have to do with spy planes?

There are thousands of more modern jets laying in the desert that were fully functional when they landed.

 

[Quag]

There are thousands of more modern jets laying in the desert that were fully functional when they landed.

And?

 

[RetiredUSN]

And?

And?

 

[Quag]

And?

I dont see how you are connecting the dots

 

[RetiredUSN]

I dont see how you are connecting the dots

Does phasing out ring a bell?

We phase out perfectly working jets all the time.

 

[Quag]

Does phasing out ring a bell?

We phase out perfectly working jets all the time.

Yup once there is a suitable/superior replacement

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Selling them is better than destroying them.

I kinda doubt that they will be showing up at Worthington Ford anytime soon.

 

[RetiredUSN]

Selling them is better than destroying them.

Our jet "Ghost Fleet' can be recycled into raw material for new jets faster and more economical than producing new aluminum and titanium.

 

[Metric Mouse]

He is literally bending us over and opening our rectums and inviting Vladimir to enter.

Lawl. Afraid of Russians invading, are you? Got big Red Dawn fantasies? Russia is not a conventional threat to the United States.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Let's just cut the military budget in half and use that money to help we the people instead of destroying planes we still use.

Imagine how many troops we would have to bring home to do that! How many ships we would need to scrap and how many spy planes would need to be grounded. People having a hissy fit about pulling a few thousand troops from Germany and Afghanistan would begin to hemorrhage.

 

[dcsports]

Yup once there is a suitable/superior replacement

These are OC-135B - two 60 year old aircraft. Essentially modified cargo jets that were due to be replaced anyway.

 

[Quag]

These are OC-135B - two 60 year old aircraft. Essentially modified cargo jets that were due to be replaced anyway.

Usual practice is to replace them then retire them.
Is there any replacements even being planned?

 

[RetiredUSN]

Lawl. Afraid of Russians invading, are you? Got big Red Dwan fantasies? Russia is not a conventional threat to the United States.

Russia isn't a conventional threat? Since when?

It only takes 1 sub.