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I don't think any have been placed in the hands of teachers or other school officials...just resource officers. Are you suggesting that we just leave all potential victims including teachers unarmed? If an active shooter manages to barricade himself inside a classroom full of kids....so be it? They all die?

Teachers are evil socialists out to indoctrinate our children to hate white people and hate America. They are godless perverts who want to groom our children into deviant sexual lifestyles.

…and they all need guns because they love our children and would die to protect them from harm.
 
All onions, and no potatoes.
 
You are not making any sense. You seem to be suggesting that if there is any failure at any given time, we should just give up and allow active shooters a clear field of unarmed victims. The solution involves improving security at schools, which includes many things, including the police and resource officers having a better plan then they did in Texas the other day, and it is not a bad idea to arm a few volunteer teachers willing to be trained to carry and use concealed weapons. As far as this discussion goes, it's a question of motivation. My motivation is protecting the children, even if it means arming a few volunteer teachers. You seem totally opposed to that just for the sake of: "No! I do not want any guns in the classroom under any circumstances, even if 20 plus children between the ages of 7 and 11 get locked in with an active shooter aiming to kill them all."
We should issue all the kids guns. That way they can defend themselves and won’t have to rely on ineffective adults.
 
You are not making any sense. You seem to be suggesting that if there is any failure at any given time, we should just give up and allow active shooters a clear field of unarmed victims. The solution involves improving security at schools, which includes many things, including the police and resource officers having a better plan then they did in Texas the other day, and it is not a bad idea to arm a few volunteer teachers willing to be trained to carry and use concealed weapons. As far as this discussion goes, it's a question of motivation. My motivation is protecting the children, even if it means arming a few volunteer teachers. You seem totally opposed to that just for the sake of: "No! I do not want any guns in the classroom under any circumstances, even if 20 plus children between the ages of 7 and 11 get locked in with an active shooter aiming to kill them all."
How many more years of trying this exact solution and having the problem still get worse do you want before we try something different?

Your motivation is protecting your toys. If you really wanted to protect the children, you'd want to get rid of the guns that are killing them.
 
I wonder where you stand on Conservatives outlawing abortion?
My stance is the issue should be returned to the state as it was before Roe Vs Wade. Personally I am against abortion for the sake of: Oops I did not intend to get pregnant, however I can work out that even if Roe Vs Wade is overturned, abortion will never be completely banned. Most of us on the pro-life side will ultimately accept common sense restrictions. The battles should be in the states, unless the pro-choice crowd wants to go the constitutional amendment route.
 
They already infringed on mine. Forever denying the right to bear arms to felons makes it a privilege not a right, as a right cannot be taken away.
Felons give up some rights when they choose to maim and kill. In those cases, it absolutely can be taken away.
 
Teachers are evil socialists out to indoctrinate our children to hate white people and hate America. They are godless perverts who want to groom our children into deviant sexual lifestyles.

…and they all need guns because they love our children and would die to protect them from harm.
The lame sarcasm board is down the hall. Have a nice evening.
 
Felons give up some rights when they choose to maim and kill. In those cases, it absolutely can be taken away.
It’s all felons though. And it still isn’t a right if it can be taken away.

It is a privilege. Subject to the whims of the state.
 
Sarcasm board is down the hall.
Why not? I learned proper safety from my dad when I was 8. The constitution didn’t set an age limit. And kids had guns at young ages back then. Hell, they got married in their teens.
 
My stance is the issue should be returned to the state as it was before Roe Vs Wade. Personally I am against abortion for the sake of: Oops I did not intend to get pregnant, however I can work out that even if Roe Vs Wade is overturned, abortion will never be completely banned. Most of us on the pro-life side will ultimately accept common sense restrictions. The battles should be in the states, unless the pro-choice crowd wants to go the constitutional amendment route.
The Republicans want a federal ban.
 
The only trash are those who act like kids murders are OK so they can have their toys.
Trash are those who stand on the bodies of little kids to shit on the 2nd amendment.
 
How many more years of trying this exact solution and having the problem still get worse do you want before we try something different?
Let me know when they get to the first day much less year where they try the solution I suggested. No volunteer teachers have been armed yet.
Your motivation is protecting your toys.
No. I am merely intelligent enough to work out that the bad guys will get guns no matter the laws or gun bans. My motivation is to protect the children. Yours is apparently to protect your "no guns in schools under any circumstances" mantra.
If you really wanted to protect the children, you'd want to get rid of the guns that are killing them.
Tell me how you propose we get rid of guns. Only complete morons think passing gun control laws will get rid of them. The UK took away the legal right to possess firearms years ago, yet:

 
They already infringed on mine. Forever denying the right to bear arms to felons makes it a privilege not a right, as a right cannot be taken away.
If a former criminal is trusted enough to be out in the public then he or she should have all their rights restored.
 
I wonder where you stand on Conservatives outlawing abortion?
Can you show what amendment grants one the right to kill their unborn child. Is it the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th or some other amendment?
 
It’s all felons though. And it still isn’t a right if it can be taken away.

It is a privilege. Subject to the whims of the state.
You seem a bit confused. The US Constitution does allow the suspension of rights of those who do not obey societies laws. Otherwise, we would not be allowed to put them in jail or prison.
 
Really? Someone kills 21 people at a school, and we are told that hardening schools and putting an armed guard at the single entrance is a solution.

MEMO FROM THE TED BUNDY INSTITUTE OF MASS MURDER, SCHOOL SHOOTING DIVISION: Students, if you decide to shoot up a school, simply enter and start firing.

or

If there is an armed guard, shoot him first with your pistol, then take AR out of your bag and start firing.

As Rush Limbaugh would say, my friends, I am not making this up.
One armed guard is not enough. Does the president only have one armed secret service guard and that guard is placed at the entrence to what ever building the president is in? If one guard is not enough for him then why on earth would one armed guard be enough for a whole entire school building with two hundred or more school kids?
 
You’re literally killing everyone with your rights. You may need to pull your horns in a little just to allow other people the right to live.
Hogwash.Not having an adequate amount of armed personell and making schools easy targets for suicidal social outcast losers is what denies other their right to live. Making instant celebrities out of suicidal social outcast losers who commit mass murder is what denies other people their right to live.
 
The Republicans want a federal ban.
The republicans would have to go the constitutional amendment route to get such. I don't think either side would be successful along those lines. 38 out of 50 states would have to ratify. It's also why the democrats are highly unlikely to ever get the 2nd amendment repealed.
 
Yes those apples and oranges sure are different
How so? He said no guns equals no murders. Which is utter nonsense. Are you denying that murders do happen without the use of a gun?
 
The republicans would have to go the constitutional amendment route to get such. I don't think either side would be successful along those lines. 38 out of 50 states would have to ratify. It's also why the democrats are highly unlikely to ever get the 2nd amendment repealed.
No they wouldn't. They're trying to just pass a bill. No need for a constitutional ammendment. Without roe what would be unconstitutional about it?
 
How so? He said no guns equals no murders. Which is utter nonsense. Are you denying that murders do happen without the use of a gun?
Someone should mention to him the rising homicides in the UK with knives. The UK is even enacting "Knife Control" laws.
 
No they wouldn't. They're trying to just pass a bill. No need for a constitutional ammendment. Without roe what would be unconstitutional about it?
Either side can pass a bill until the cows come home, however it has no constitutional protection without a constitutional amendment. Don't you ever wonder by the libruls have so much trouble fighting against the second amendment?
 
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