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Is your god both omniscient, and omnipotent?
I mean, that's part of what being a god is all about isn't it?
On some level?
For example:
When your god created the heavens and the Earth, did he know that Adolph Hitler would be born in 1889, and grow up to become the maniac he became?
Before Adam and Eve picked that apple, did your god know Americans would invent the atomic bomb and drop it on Japan, twice, in 1945?
Before a pandemic like Covid-19 breaks out, does your god already know exactly how many, and exactly who will die from it, and when?
It's not as if time was just standing around waiting for things to be placed sequentially in line.Is your god both omniscient, and omnipotent?
I mean, that's part of what being a god is all about isn't it?
On some level?
For example:
When your god created the heavens and the Earth, did he know that Adolph Hitler would be born in 1889, and grow up to become the maniac he became?
Before Adam and Eve picked that apple, did your god know Americans would invent the atomic bomb and drop it on Japan, twice, in 1945?
Before a pandemic like Covid-19 breaks out, does your god already know exactly how many, and exactly who will die from it, and when?
It's not as if time was just standing around waiting for things to be placed sequentially in line.
Yes. My God and your God is omniscient and omnipotent.
Allah is my God and your God.Who is your god exactly?
How do you know it's omniscient and omnipotent?
Trust me when I say this last part - you and I do NOT have the same god.
Allah is my God and your God.
Do you mean, how do i know He is so according to Islamic teachings or do you mean in general how it can be known?
Do you suppose there could be two omnipotent and omnicent Gods?
Is your god both omniscient, and omnipotent?
I mean, that's part of what being a god is all about isn't it?
On some level?
For example:
When your god created the heavens and the Earth, did he know that Adolph Hitler would be born in 1889, and grow up to become the maniac he became?
Before Adam and Eve picked that apple, did your god know Americans would invent the atomic bomb and drop it on Japan, twice, in 1945?
Before a pandemic like Covid-19 breaks out, does your god already know exactly how many, and exactly who will die from it, and when?
Seek him out and discover for yourself is my best advice. Who knows...you might find new words to describe him.
Yes. My God and your God is omniscient and omnipotent.
Or what if the god I seek and find is actually a SHE?
Is your god both omniscient, and omnipotent?
I mean, that's part of what being a god is all about isn't it?
On some level?
For example:
When your god created the heavens and the Earth, did he know that Adolph Hitler would be born in 1889, and grow up to become the maniac he became?
Before Adam and Eve picked that apple, did your god know Americans would invent the atomic bomb and drop it on Japan, twice, in 1945?
Before a pandemic like Covid-19 breaks out, does your god already know exactly how many, and exactly who will die from it, and when?
If one is all powerful it means everything else is under his power — that would include the other "all powerful" being.if one is possible, why isn't more than one just as possible?
My first guess is that it's about their thinking (atheists) that because they can't understand God, God - according to their twisted reasoning - cannot be.is the point of this that if god knows he cant actually change anything?
If one is all powerful it means everything else is under his power — that would include the other "all powerful" being.
is the point of this that if god knows he cant actually change anything?
My first guess is that it's about their thinking (atheists) that because they can't understand God, God - according to their twisted reasoning - cannot be.
Depends on what you believe of God. If you believe in an omnipotent and all powerful God then I suppose you would assign omniscience as well. And you might believe in a God that controls and directs every act and action or that intervenes on a whim. But if you believe in a loving Father that HAPPENS TO BE omnipotent, then I think you would be closer to understanding God and Gods role.Is your god both omniscient, and omnipotent?
I mean, that's part of what being a god is all about isn't it?
On some level?
For example:
When your god created the heavens and the Earth, did he know that Adolph Hitler would be born in 1889, and grow up to become the maniac he became?
Before Adam and Eve picked that apple, did your god know Americans would invent the atomic bomb and drop it on Japan, twice, in 1945?
Before a pandemic like Covid-19 breaks out, does your god already know exactly how many, and exactly who will die from it, and when?
So, perhaps atheists who use this argument should not have children. :mrgreen: if they do, they must be evil.Depends on what you believe of God. If you believe in an omnipotent and all powerful God then I suppose you would assign omniscience as well. And you might believe in a God that controls and directs every act and action or that intervenes on a whim. But if you believe in a loving Father that HAPPENS TO BE omnipotent, then I think you would be closer to understanding God and Gods role.
As a parent, do you KNOW your children are going to struggle? Suffer? Experience pain and heartache? Do you let them and if so, what kind of an earthly god are you to allow them to experience life?
Being Omniscient and being omnipotent are mutually exclusive traits. It you know what you are going to be doing for eternity because you are ominiscient, you do not have the abilty to deviate from what you know you are going to do. If you deviate from what you know you are going to do , you are not omniscient. If you can't deviate from what you know you are going to do, you are not omnipotent.
It depends on if you are trying to have an argument or a discussion. I have come to find arguments about religion to be a waste of time.So, perhaps atheists who use this argument should not have children. :mrgreen: if they do, they must be evil.
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