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The formula for calculating who qualifies for welfare and what a living wage is.What formula?
Pffft, because it is. I don’t know why you think it’s crazy to say “living wage” is a subjective measurement.
None of that has anything to do with how it is calculated. Lifestyle has nothing to do with it. Individual choices have nothing to do with it.There’s people who make 50 grand and retire millionaires and people making a million who are broke, different people live different lifestyles around the US and the world.
If people survive in Bolivia then there’s no reason you can’t argue that people can just reduce their life expectations and cost of living would go down in that case.
Of course not.So now Walmart has to be responsible for their teenaged workers parents getting welfare?
It's not.This seems like a complex and unworkable system
OK, what formula? You keep Saying formula like it’s a magical incantation. A formula is a specific thing, post the equation.The formula for calculating who qualifies for welfare and what a living wage is.
Different individuals have different costs of living.because it is based on what it costs to live. Not subjective to infividuals.
Lifestyle has everything to do with it. Part of the idea of “the living wage “ Is that people are entitled to a certain minimum lifestyle Without working more than a certain number of hours.None of that has anything to do with how it is calculated. Lifestyle has nothing to do with it. Individual choices have nothing to do with it.
No, I do not. But this is a succinct reputation of the idea That cost of living is some objective formula like you describe it. It is a subjective matter. People are alive all over the world who work much harder for much less quality of life.You want the US to be a third world country? Really?
Partly because you are not making any coherent points.Of course not.
You really are the understanding.
Yeah it is. You cannot have a system where a person or business is taking on unlimited liabilities based on the financial situation of people who they have no relationship with.It's not.
Is that not still limiting your choices?Nope, I will take my business to places that give me a choice, and I will choose a human cashier.
When? It costs a fortune to make a robot that can perform simple tasks like walk for example. Those dancing Boston Dynamics robots would set you back a hell of a lot more than a min wage worker. And if there are any variables then the robot will not become confused due to the fact that they cannot think. Current AI is crap.Robots are coming regardless of wages.
Hotel fires half its robot staff for sucking at their jobs
Bye bye, bots. Henn na Hotel in Japan laid off droids that annoyed customers by failing to perform simple tasks.
I got your equation. $80k.OK, what formula? You keep Saying formula like it’s a magical incantation. A formula is a specific thing, post the equation.
Different individuals have different costs of living.
Lifestyle has everything to do with it. Part of the idea of “the living wage “ Is that people are entitled to a certain minimum lifestyle Without working more than a certain number of hours.
No, I do not. But this is a succinct reputation of the idea That cost of living is some objective formula like you describe it. It is a subjective matter. People are alive all over the world who work much harder for much less quality of life.
Partly because you are not making any coherent points.
Yeah it is. You cannot have a system where a person or business is taking on unlimited liabilities based on the financial situation of people who they have no relationship with.
You just said, that if a teenager goes to work for Walmart, and that teenagers parents are on welfare, even though Walmart has nothing to do with the financial situation of the kids parents, they should be fully liable for it. That is an insane and unworkable system.
I bet you thought this was clever.Why did you treat your crew so horribly? They needed organized.
I thought it a fair question. Perhaps I am mistaken though, and your referring to them as "my crew" didn't indicate you were a member of management.I bet you thought this was clever.
I can’t really make heads or tails of this post. You should cut it down and make it more coherentI got your equation. $80k.
If you live on less than $80k you will struggle because you have no surplus to speak of. Thats pretty much the entire working class. If you are college educated then you should be making at least $80k right? So bring down cost of living or pay $80k min wage. Commie? Here I am.
The state should pay the living wage not business. Bring in your robots and we will all stay at home on $80k living wage. What?
edit - If you are not on board then you are the enemy of the working class. ANd God knows you modern leftist Democrats arent on board. You think you are worth more right? If us working classes get $80k you are going to all expect hundreds of thousands - and yeah some of you are already making it. You are the real enemy - not these conservatives. They are nothing. Forget the 1%. Its you that us commies are coming for. You educated Democrat voters.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
What?
You Democrats. What? WHAT? You are the enemy not the 1%.
Oscar Wilde. The Soul of Man under Socialism
The Soul of Man under Socialism by Oscar Wildewww.marxists.org
WHat? Robots as our slaves? Yeah that is the plan...
What?
edit - To the 1% I say this - who is your true enemy? The working class? Or these modern day slave owner Democrats that want to throw chicken feed at us and pat themselves on the back for it? We have them surrounded. Lets destroy them in a pincer attack! Do not fear the coming class war. Get with the power. Get with the working class.
edit - Ha.
edit - %$%$ YOUR PRODUCTIVITY SLAVE OWNERS!
edit - To the Democrats and so-called 'Democratic Socialists' I say this - %$%$ your chicken feed. And %$%$ you ( In general. Nothing personal. Mods ). You are the real enemy!
Raising the minimum wage doesn't help minimum wage workers. It does though help union workers who get automatic raises whenever the minimum goes up.The posters indoctrinated to post anti-worker propaganda are deplorable, even if posting out of ignorance.
25 states still enforce only the 30 year old, sub $3.00 hour minimum wage for tipped employees. It was not increased in the last democratic party federal initiative to raise the national minimum wage, 15 years ago.
The sense of entitlement emits quite a stench. The objections to the student loan debt forgiveness stink but cannot compete with some of the posts I've read in this thread. Prices are uniform across the country. Some employers are able to exploit their workers financially more than others.
depending on whether G.O.P. control the state government.
In the states with least educated voting populations, pawn interest maximum is 300 percent annually vs. under 100 percent in states of more highly educated adults.
BullshitIf the increase the cost of labor, they make robots look at lot more attractive.
Hasn't happened yet, where have you been?Bullshit
Hasn’t happened yet
Not even wrong.Raising the minimum wage doesn't help minimum wage workers. It does though help union workers who get automatic raises whenever the minimum goes up.
Sales sustain a certain level of total labor cost. As a percentage that number is relatively fixed. Raising the minimum wage for entry level are at the expense of those already working forcing a small differential between the trainer and the trainee.
In your opinion is it better for the trainer to make $20 and the new hire $10 or both to make $15? The total labor cost is the same.
How cute.Hasn't happened yet, where have you been?
Almost every grocery store has a self checkout, a lot of fast food places have kiosks to order from.
It has been a while since we went to the movies, but the last time they had a popcorn self dispenser.
Does she use two all beef paddies special sauce lettuce cheese on a sesame seed bun?I can't stand doing fast food these days.
The staff in most fast food places have the intelligence of a bushel of bivalves, and a run of the mill "quahog" could probably articulate better the morons at the counter..
I used to enjoy a Big Mac every now and then from McDonalds but the wife now makes a better Big Mac than they do.
Granted I have only been using automation for the last 4 decades, but anything that allows a functionHow cute.
People checking their own groceries does not constitute robots!
Popcorn machines aren’t robots either!
Get yourself a big dictionary
Bwaahaahaahaahaa!
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Does she use two all beef paddies special sauce lettuce cheese on a sesame seed bun?
Not ‘a type of robot’ you said robots.Granted I have only been using automation for the last 4 decades, but anything that allows a function
to be preformed where a Human used to be needed is kind of a Robot.
Elevator operators, Automation dispensed with them early on.
The cashers at the grocery store, ect. if the automation replaces the labor of a person it is a type of robot.
It has been ongoing for decades.
Please replace Cali with Texas
I HATE CALIFORNIA BECAUSE CALIFORNIA IS ALL POOPYHEADS!!!
I HATE CALIFORNIA I HATE CALIFORNIA I HATE CALIFORNIA
I HATE CALIFORNIA I HATE CALIFORNIA I HATE CALIFORNIA
I HATE CALIFORNIA I HATE CALIFORNIA I HATE CALIFORNIA
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I HATE CALIFORNIA I HATE CALIFORNIA I HATE CALIFORNIA
(when are we going to Disneyland?)
A random number worth no source has no valueI got your equation. $80k.
If you live on less than $80k you will struggle because you have no surplus to speak of. Thats pretty much the entire working class. If you are college educated then you should be making at least $80k right? So bring down cost of living or pay $80k min wage. Commie? Here I am.
The state should pay the living wage not business. Bring in your robots and we will all stay at home on $80k living wage. What?
edit - If you are not on board then you are the enemy of the working class. ANd God knows you modern leftist Democrats arent on board. You think you are worth more right? If us working classes get $80k you are going to all expect hundreds of thousands - and yeah some of you are already making it. You are the real enemy - not these conservatives. They are nothing. Forget the 1%. Its you that us commies are coming for. You educated Democrat voters.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
What?
You Democrats. What? WHAT? You are the enemy not the 1%.
Oscar Wilde. The Soul of Man under Socialism
The Soul of Man under Socialism by Oscar Wildewww.marxists.org
WHat? Robots as our slaves? Yeah that is the plan...
What?
edit - To the 1% I say this - who is your true enemy? The working class? Or these modern day slave owner Democrats that want to throw chicken feed at us and pat themselves on the back for it? We have them surrounded. Lets destroy them in a pincer attack! Do not fear the coming class war. Get with the power. Get with the working class.
edit - Ha.
edit - %$%$ YOUR PRODUCTIVITY SLAVE OWNERS!
edit - To the Democrats and so-called 'Democratic Socialists' I say this - %$%$ your chicken feed. And %$%$ you ( In general. Nothing personal. Mods ). You are the real enemy!
it really is not that complicated. Say a 40 hour employee making $10 per hour cost a store $31,200 a year.Not ‘a type of robot’ you said robots.
Hasn’t happened to any great degree as wages have been rising in the restaurant industry (THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD, BTW) and I said that it is doubtful that it will increase as it hasn’t really happened yet.
Your dodgeball sidestepping and rapid back peddling are hilariously noted.
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