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Ok, now let's see what happens to fast food restaurants in Commiefornia

True, but the people who might be hesitant to use a robot, or an ordering kiosk,
will be pushed that way by higher labor costs.
So, what happens to the workers of the world? We just let them die because, Profit Margins???
 
So, what happens to the workers of the world? We just let them die because, Profit Margins???
Not because of profit margins, this is a government change, that saws off the bottom rungs!
 
In CA, we believe that people that provide us service should maker enough to live on. A business is not guaranteed to make a profit. If you can only succeed by screwing your workers, there are 49 other states you can move to.
If you expect unskilled workers to be paid that much, then you should expect to pay alot more for the food or service. Do you know how low restaurant margins are? Restaurant owners, especially franchisees who own only one or two units, are not making money hand over fist, trust me. Its very hard for them to pay their workers more and not pass that along to the consumer. Food costs are way up. Landlords are raising rents. Notice that your service sucks lately? Managers have to try and do more work with less people. We can pay restaurant workers a bunch, but then everyone should start considering eating out to be a luxury pretty much anywhere you go.
 
As a heart patient with type 2 diabetes I'm laughing.

The US NEEDS dramatic hikes in fast food costs, the people are the most obese in the world, not from eating too much, although that's part of it, but stuffing yourself with fats, sugars and salt with some 'additives' thrown in.

And here, they're already robo. The only thing humans do is wrap it and set it out. You order at a kiosk & pick it up at the other end.
Its a matter of being smart in one's food choices. Something I really was not great at doing until age 45. Though I was never one for fast food, we Americans are legendary for big portions, high fat, and high carb diets. Its the way many of us where raised.
 
If I am understanding correctly, larger chains are having to increase their minimum wage by 7 dollars an hour?

That should make a 10 dollar burger about 12 Dollars where labor costs are generally about 25 percent of overhead...but I am getting old so maybe I figured this wrong?
I remember walking into a Jack-In-The-Box in California to buy a burger, fries, and a coke, and getting change back from my dollar. But that was before Democrat filth took over the State.
 
Here's a website that lists number of fast food restaurants by state per 100,000 people: https://www.nicerx.com/fast-food-capitals/

Currently, it has 82.3 for California, 65.5 for Florida, 89.7 for Maryland, 75.5 for Pennsylvania, and 75.8 for Texas.
Interesting. Alaska has the lowest number of fast food restaurants per capita in the nation at only 61.9 per 100,000.

I suppose when you have all this free salmon every Summer Alaskans tend to eat better than your typical fast-food joint. I am guilty of eating at fast-food joints myself once or twice a year. Sometimes I need to remind myself just how bad it truly is.
 
Interesting. Alaska has the lowest number of fast food restaurants per capita in the nation at only 61.9 per 100,000.

I suppose when you have all this free salmon every Summer Alaskans tend to eat better than your typical fast-food joint. I am guilty of eating at fast-food joints myself once or twice a year. Sometimes I need to remind myself just how bad it truly is.
Is this "live stream" footage of you & your friends?



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Is this "live stream" footage of you & your friends?



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I begin fishing for salmon Memorial Day weekend and will fish three or four times a week every week until I obtain ~250 pounds of salmon. Which usually takes me until late July. It is important to get all my fishing done prior to August because August is caribou season and September is moose season. I takes me about a year to go through 250 pounds of salmon. I usually run out by late April or early May.
 
I remember walking into a Jack-In-The-Box in California to buy a burger, fries, and a coke, and getting change back from my dollar. But that was before Democrat filth took over the State.
The price for Jack in the Box food is the same across America so your statement is a transparent attempt to simply offer your hyper partisan talking point.

Your statement makes as much sense as saying, when I was young I could walk into Alabama (but not on Sunday of course because...theology and all) and get a six pack of beer with three dollars and get back change. But that was before the Republican filth took over.
 
Let's keep track of how much the price of a meal goes up in fast food restaurants & how many fast food restaurants go belly up in California:



How long should we wait?
When will we know if the predicted results have occurred (or not occurred)?
 
it's coming soon...any day now... robotics will replace them all..

there ought to be a term for predictions which are inherently unverifiable

I'm slightly curious about what sort of a prediction @neil's prediction is
 
If you expect unskilled workers to be paid that much, then you should expect to pay alot more for the food or service. Do you know how low restaurant margins are? Restaurant owners, especially franchisees who own only one or two units, are not making money hand over fist, trust me. Its very hard for them to pay their workers more and not pass that along to the consumer. Food costs are way up. Landlords are raising rents. Notice that your service sucks lately? Managers have to try and do more work with less people. We can pay restaurant workers a bunch, but then everyone should start considering eating out to be a luxury pretty much anywhere you go.

And I dont mind paying more for GOOD service and good food, etc.

But I really dont consider fast food as good or good quality at all and so I'll choose to spend my $ elsewhere...unless I'm out running errands and need McDonalds (only) french fries. :D
 
Let's keep track of how much the price of a meal goes up in fast food restaurants & how many fast food restaurants go belly up in California:

I doubt it will make a difference. The majority of people who keep fast food restaurants in business are people who don't know how to cook. They will either have to learn to cook or pay a slight increase in their meals. Maybe the increase will cause them to also slim down a little - good for the health, also.
 
In CA, we believe that people that provide us service should maker enough to live on. A business is not guaranteed to make a profit. If you can only succeed by screwing your workers, there are 49 other states you can move to.
This was the same whining that restaurant owners in Seattle did. Guess what? It didn't make a difference (altho' Covid did for awhile).
 
How long should we wait?
When will we know if the predicted results have occurred (or not occurred)?
As long as necessary - if there's an obvious & dramatic change within weeks then that's all that's needed; if a year goes by and things remain substantially the same after all that time, then we know it had no effect at all.

I don't think there has been any explicitly stated prediction, but there is an implicit expectation from economics & proponents of the free market system (which would be that prices surge & some fast food restaurants close down). I think it's reasonable to assert that any clear & measurable change counts, but let's say the results are also insignificant (e.g. price only goes up by 2% or less & number of fast food restaurants that close down is also 2% or less); if you want to argue that those results aren't so bad, that's fine.

Keep in mind, though, that it's really more than just how much the price goes up or how many fast food restaurants close their doors; every single business that closes its doors means there's a job loss issue & a surge in price or loss of a restaurant means consumers have fewer & only more expensive options, and both are negative economic effects on them.
 
I doubt it will make a difference.
Ok.

The majority of people who keep fast food restaurants in business are people who don't know how to cook.
Is there something wrong with that?

Let's apply that same statement to brain surgery: The majority of people who keep brain surgeons in business are people who don't know how to do brain surgery on themselves.

If it's obvious that in this brain surgery analogy it's ridiculous for someone to do brain surgery on themselves then it has served its purpose & it made the point that I'm aiming for; we have brain surgeons in business because an individual shouldn't try to perform brain surgery on themselves, but some people can and do cook for themselves, should people be forced to cook for themselves because of that difference?

I don't think people should be forced to learn to cook, just like no one is forced to go to fast food restaurants.

When I took economics in college, one of my professors said that self-sufficiency leads to poverty. Creating a situation where everyone has to learn to cook also creates a situation that pushes more people into poverty.

They will either have to learn to cook or pay a slight increase in their meals.
What's a "slight increase"? What if either that "slight increase" or the additional time spent having to cook (i.e. it cuts into that time they need to work extra hours) prevents some from being able to make ends meet?

Maybe the increase will cause them to also slim down a little - good for the health, also.
That implies that fast food is less healthy than other sources of food & that can easily be debated (e.g. preservatives or artificial ingredients in supermarket products), but for the sake of argument - sure it would be good for the health, but not for those fast food workers whom this bill is supposed to protect.
 
Let's keep track of how much the price of a meal goes up in fast food restaurants & how many fast food restaurants go belly up in California:


This law applies to chains with more than 100 restaurants. It will be interesting to see how the courts define franchise owners. Most of the stores at chains owners have less than 100 locations. Thus they be exempt.
 
Interesting. Alaska has the lowest number of fast food restaurants per capita in the nation at only 61.9 per 100,000.

I suppose when you have all this free salmon every Summer Alaskans tend to eat better than your typical fast-food joint. I am guilty of eating at fast-food joints myself once or twice a year. Sometimes I need to remind myself just how bad it truly is.
Gosh. Can't imagine why that is.
 
As long as necessary - if there's an obvious & dramatic change within weeks then that's all that's needed; if a year goes by and things remain substantially the same after all that time, then we know it had no effect at all.
a year from now
got it

I don't think there has been any explicitly stated prediction, but there is an implicit expectation from economics & proponents of the free market system (which would be that prices surge & some fast food restaurants close down). I think it's reasonable to assert that any clear & measurable change counts, but let's say the results are also insignificant (e.g. price only goes up by 2% or less & number of fast food restaurants that close down is also 2% or less); if you want to argue that those results aren't so bad, that's fine.

Keep in mind, though, that it's really more than just how much the price goes up or how many fast food restaurants close their doors; every single business that closes its doors means there's a job loss issue & a surge in price or loss of a restaurant means consumers have fewer & only more expensive options, and both are negative economic effects on them.
Should we also bear in mind that there are more variables at play when it comes to keeping a restaurant afloat than just this one you are posting about?

Do we have the data from the 'before' picture?
e.g. at what rate were fast food places failing in recent years

Restaurants are notoriously failure prone businesses
 
a year from now
got it


Should we also bear in mind that there are more variables at play when it comes to keeping a restaurant afloat than just this one you are posting about?

Do we have the data from the 'before' picture?
e.g. at what rate were fast food places failing in recent years

Restaurants are notoriously failure prone businesses
Already way ahead of you:


 
Let's keep track of how much the price of a meal goes up in fast food restaurants & how many fast food restaurants go belly up in California:

So you want cheaper hamburgers with slave labor.
 
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