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Ok, now let's see what happens to fast food restaurants in Commiefornia

aociswundumho said:
No, it isn't. Society gets richer when a robot or automation kills a job and puts someone out of work. If McDonalds completely automated their restaurants, we, as a society, would be richer and better off.
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Where would people get money yo buy things if too many jobs were killed?

Wouldn't killing jobs decrease demand and make society poorer?
 
Nickyjo said:
I have no idea how a business should be run. But if they can’t afford to pay decent wages and mandated benefits, they shouldn’t be in business.
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"I have no idea how a business should be run."

The obvious didnt even need to be said...but you went ahead and said it. You people are ****ing AMAZING telling people that have run businesses how it should REALLY be done.
 
aociswundumho said:
In the history of the world, that has never been the case.
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Sure it has.

Supply and demand...... automation can make supply cheaper and that is fine as long as people find other employment but when automation leads to increased joblessness demand decreases and wealth decreases.
 
mrjurrs said:
In CA, we believe that people that provide us service should maker enough to live on. A business is not guaranteed to make a profit. If you can only succeed by screwing your workers, there are 49 other states you can move to.
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Amen, brother.

I don't mind paying more in order to give the people who serve me a chance at a decent life, and I don't know what human being does mind.
 
Eurotrash said:
Amen, brother.

I don't mind paying more in order to give the people who serve me a chance at a decent life, and I don't know what human being does mind.
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Stick around here a little longer, you'll find plenty of them...
 
neil said:
Let's keep track of how much the price of a meal goes up in fast food restaurants & how many fast food restaurants go belly up in California:

www.yahoo.com

California lawmakers approve landmark fast food workers bill

California lawmakers on Monday approved a nation-leading measure that would give more than a half-million fast food workers more power and protections, over the objections of restaurant owners who warn it would drive up consumers' costs. The bill will create a new 10-member Fast Food Council...
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I predict they will control labor costs by automating people out of jobs.
 
mrjurrs said:
You don't think an experienced worker isn't more valuable than a new worker?

The government doesn't owe the business anything, it owes the people equality before the law and of opportunity. Allowing a business to pay less for their labor to increase the business profits steps outside of equality of opportunity.
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In those jobs? No, not really. Good managers are different but for the frontline workers? No.

Why doesnt the govt owe businesses but it does owe people? Please explain. And what inequality do those people have? Each physically/mentally competent person has choices.

IMO, what the govt owes BOTH is a viable economy. In which to make choices, develop business plans, strategies, gain skills, opportunities, etc. It's up to the business or individual to put in the effort and commitment.
 
MrWonka said:
What do you mean $2 more? The article above just showed that a Big Mac in Denmark was actually cheaper than it was in Tulsa, OK.
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I read that it could be $1-$2 dollars more. In that article.

"A McDonald’s customer will pay approximately the same amount — give or take a dollar or two — for a Big Mac in Denmark as they would for a Big Mac in the United States. In fact, in many cases you’ll actually pay less for a Big Mac in Denmark than you would in the United States." link​

They, like you, seemed to think that a dollar or two doesnt mean anything. But for many, esp. for fast food (implied fast and inexpensive) it is.

Some places it's more, some places it's less.
 
Lursa said:
In those jobs? No, not really. Good managers are different but for the frontline workers? No.

Why doesnt the govt owe businesses but it does owe people? Please explain. And what inequality do those people have? Each physically/mentally competent person has choices.

IMO, what the govt owes BOTH is a viable economy. In which to make choices, develop business plans, strategies, gain skills, opportunities, etc. It's up to the business or individual to put in the effort and commitment.
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You think that those jobs don't spend an inordinate amount of time (and expense) training new workers? I disagree.

Where are businesses rights in our Constitution? I can point out the rights for people.
 
mrjurrs said:
You think that those jobs don't spend an inordinate amount of time (and expense) training new workers? I disagree.

Where are businesses rights in our Constitution? I can point out the rights for people.
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Please answer my questions before asking me more.
 
longview said:
True, but the people who might be hesitant to use a robot, or an ordering kiosk,
will be pushed that way by higher labor costs.
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Some people maybe, personally I don't use ordering kiosk's or self checkout lanes in stores. Every time we use a self checkout it takes hours away from
employees who could use the hours.
 
neil said:
Let's keep track of how much the price of a meal goes up in fast food restaurants & how many fast food restaurants go belly up in California:

www.yahoo.com

California lawmakers approve landmark fast food workers bill

California lawmakers on Monday approved a nation-leading measure that would give more than a half-million fast food workers more power and protections, over the objections of restaurant owners who warn it would drive up consumers' costs. The bill will create a new 10-member Fast Food Council...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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And they claim Democrats support democracy. :rolleyes:
 
aociswundumho said:
No, it isn't. Society gets richer when a robot or automation kills a job and puts someone out of work. If McDonalds completely automated their restaurants, we, as a society, would be richer and better off.
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Eating junk food served by a robot. Who’s gonna buy the food if no one has work? I believe - tho I am not sure - it was Henry Ford who believed that wages should rise so workers could by his products.
 
911Sparky said:
Some people maybe, personally I don't use ordering kiosk's or self checkout lanes in stores. Every time we use a self checkout it takes hours away from
employees who could use the hours.
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I refuse to use those as well, and I will never, ever, buy lunch or dinner from a vending machine.

If fast food restaurants automate and become vending machines I will spend my money elsewhere.
 
Nickyjo said:
Eating junk food served by a robot. Who’s gonna buy the food if no one has work?
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Why are you assuming no one has work? Automation has been going on for thousands of years, and has really ramped up over the last 200 years. Do you see mass unemployment?

Nickyjo said:
I believe - tho I am not sure - it was Henry Ford who believed that wages should rise so workers could by his products.
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By the same reasoning the guy working in the Lamborghini factory should be able to afford one.
 
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