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Offensive PC attack at a U.S. Air Force Base.

Lutherf said:
If they want to do that stuff off post and with no ties to the military then so be it but it has no place whatsoever on a military installation nor does it have any place being endorsed by the military.
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Well I guess that would be up to the military and not you...
 
Who cares?

Anyway, it's the Air Force, nothing they haven't seen and done before.
 
Tigger said:
Are you expecting those of us who are not great fans of "diversity" - especially as it is discussed in this situation - to celebrate it as well? If so, that's fine. I'll bring all sorts of things that make noise and lots of light when they go off to the party.
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If you don't like diversity don't go to the show ....
 
APACHERAT said:
The U.S. military is about killing people to defend America. It's about uniformity not individualism or diversity. In the U.S. military everyone is of one color, green.

The leftist social engineering of the military is having a negative effect on unit cohesion. As usual, every time liberals/progressives use the military for social engineering experimentation, soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen bleed and die.
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First of all, I'm in the military and I'm blue, not green. Second, no if everyone was completely uniform, we wouldn't be able to actually perform since we need diversity in order to get the job done. The belief that uniformity is the absolute goal is highly outdated for the US military.
 
APACHERAT said:
So I may assume your of the tail end of the baby boomer generation or the generation that followed after the baby boomers ?

Since post Civil War, a dude was a pantywaist, usually someone from the east coast who came out to the wild west dressed in funny looking clothes and not able to protect themselves with a six shooter. From that you got dude ranches.

It was in the mid 1980's when the generation after the boomer generation corrupted the meaning of dude. I can tell you, I got tired punching those in the nose who were a little younger than I. Had to except the new definition for dude.

Around the same time the word awesome was corrupted. Awe being something you fear but respect. Pick up any dictionary printed before 1980.

The first time I heard the word awesome was in the early 1970's. I had a buddy who served on this big U.S. Navy observation ship that was home ported at Port Hueneme. It had all kinds of electronics, antennas, radars on the superstructure. The ship deployed to the South Pacific to observe one of the French nuclear test in the South Pacific.

When the ship returned some months later I picked up my buddy as all of these sailors were coming down the gangway and all you heard was all of these sailors describing the nuclear explosion and I kept hearing the word awesome. I knew what awe meant. I was told if you were to ever wittiness a nuclear explosion it's something indescribable, the colors that it's something you fear and respect.

Cool word, awesome, ok. Ten years later it got corrupted. "Hey dude, did you go to that concert last night ? It was awesome." I never had any fear of any concert.
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When talking about what words mean in the modern day, I find the Urban Dictionary particularly useful:

dude
1) n. a name for anyone (stereotypically used by male surfters/skaters but now accepted by any race, sex, religion, and wealth)
2) n. something that's just so awesomly cool, amazingly kick ass
3) ?. a way to start a conversation
4) replacing "um" or "like" in any sentence
1) Dude, that guy is soo sexy!
2) Omg! That teacher was so stoned, me and Hil were both like "Duuuude."
3) Dude you have no idea!
4) And then...dude...dude...dude, **** I forgot.

And when it comes to 'awesome', there's this ad campaign going on right now....
 
APACHERAT said:
I concur about the War Powers Act. The Republicans argued that it was unconstitutional while Democrats demanded the War Powers Act.

I believe President Obama made the decision that it's unconstitutional when he attacked Libya. I didn't hear any libs calling for impeachment of Obama for breaking the law by ignoring the War Powers Act.

But then again, Obama ignores what parts of the Constitution he doesn't like anyways.
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Here you go again having things all ways. You concur the War Power Acts is a broken tool. You argue that the GOP thought it was unconstitutional, but I'm pretty sure you did not mind "Your Guy" using it . . . . even though the GOP thought it unconstitutional. So, if I get this right, limited engagement and no boots on the ground in Libya is unconstitutional. Iraq, Afghanistan, Grenada, Panama, Mogadishu, and Vietnam? No problem. Oh, I forget, Mogadishu was bad only after Clinton inherited it.

I beg you to remember the words you have written previously. If you have had a change of mind on issues in some cases, that is normal, but I would appreciate it if you did not say (figuratively) something completely opposite of your previously written beliefs. I get your distaste with Obama, I truly do . . . but the tunnel vision you display harbors on a likening of the nutters who hated GW so badly they believed he had something to do with 9/11, that he sacrificed babies in the West Wing, and had daily briefings with Lucifer (Dick Cheney). You are no different from them at this point in my mind's eye . . . sorry.
 
roguenuke said:
First of all, I'm in the military and I'm blue, not green. Second, no if everyone was completely uniform, we wouldn't be able to actually perform since we need diversity in order to get the job done. The belief that uniformity is the absolute goal is highly outdated for the US military.
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Please show how you need diversity in order to get the job done.

Like being able to carry a fire pump up a ladder when your ship is on fire ? You know what I'm referring too.

During the Vietnam War era, 10 million served and we were of one color, green.
There were some racial problems but they were caused by Black Panther types. Otherwise we were able to tell ethnics jokes and and a soldier being interviewed by a reporter in Vietnam could damn LBJ for micromanaging the war from 10,000 miles away and not be court martialed.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
When talking about what words mean in the modern day, I find the Urban Dictionary particularly useful:

dude
1) n. a name for anyone (stereotypically used by male surfters/skaters but now accepted by any race, sex, religion, and wealth)
2) n. something that's just so awesomly cool, amazingly kick ass
3) ?. a way to start a conversation
4) replacing "um" or "like" in any sentence
1) Dude, that guy is soo sexy!
2) Omg! That teacher was so stoned, me and Hil were both like "Duuuude."
3) Dude you have no idea!
4) And then...dude...dude...dude, **** I forgot.

And when it comes to 'awesome', there's this ad campaign going on right now....
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I like the "Urban Dictionary", it's entertaining and informative on how words are being used today in our society in different parts of the country.

You see on my profile I use "Behind the Orange Curtain." for location. It was coined back during the 70's by those living in Orange County not Los Angeles. So your going to see different definitions of "Behind the Orange Curtain."

From someone who doesn't live in Orange County.

>"This term is used by people in Los Angeles, when referring to traveling within Orange County. This refers to the idea that people in Orange County know nothing about what's going on in Los Angeles or even the world, and only are concerned with local affairs.

Comes from the term for Russia "behind the iron curtain" from the cold war era.
Man, I had to go "behind the orange curtain" the other day to visit my cousins. They still think rockabilly is cool!

How come you missed the big concert? Oh man....since I moved behind the Orange curtain, there's no way for me to keep up with what's going on.....there's no LA Weekly or anything! "<

Urban Dictionary: behind the orange curtain

How the phrase is used by those living behind the Orange Curtain.
The original definition:

>"Previously the Orange Curtain referred to the border of Orange county and L.A. county but it is getting more commonly known and anything north of the 55 and the 405 freeways. The filth that is LA has reached down into such cities as Garden Grove, Fullerton, Placentia, Yorba Linda, and of course, Santa Ana. South of the curtain (cities such as Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, Mission Viejo, Irvive, etc) life is still nice and crime is low. Many people refuse to even cross this line because it takes weeks to get the stench out of their cars.
South Orange County is so beautiful and has just about everything but sometimes you just gotta cross the Orange Curtain to find a really seedy strip joint."<

Urban Dictionary: Orange Curtain
 
DiavoTheMiavo said:
Here you go again having things all ways. You concur the War Power Acts is a broken tool. You argue that the GOP thought it was unconstitutional, but I'm pretty sure you did not mind "Your Guy" using it . . . . even though the GOP thought it unconstitutional. So, if I get this right, limited engagement and no boots on the ground in Libya is unconstitutional. Iraq, Afghanistan, Grenada, Panama, Mogadishu, and Vietnam? No problem. Oh, I forget, Mogadishu was bad only after Clinton inherited it.

I beg you to remember the words you have written previously. If you have had a change of mind on issues in some cases, that is normal, but I would appreciate it if you did not say (figuratively) something completely opposite of your previously written beliefs. I get your distaste with Obama, I truly do . . . but the tunnel vision you display harbors on a likening of the nutters who hated GW so badly they believed he had something to do with 9/11, that he sacrificed babies in the West Wing, and had daily briefings with Lucifer (Dick Cheney). You are no different from them at this point in my mind's eye . . . sorry.
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You seem to be trolling. If I agree with you your penis goes flaccid.

Read the "War Powers Act."

Since it's passage every President followed the law of the "War Powers Act" except President Obama when he got involved in the Frogs (French) little war over Labia. After 30 days of using the military in combat without Congress approval, Obama committed an impeachable offense.

Everyone of the examples you provided above, Congress authorized the President to use the military in combat.

Do you want to get in to Mogadishu ? It was President Clinton's policies and his incompetencies of ignoring his military advisor's when the Army requested armor and were denied by Clinton that led to Al Qaeda to attack America on 9-11-01. Osama bin Laden pointed that out in his first Fatwa when he declared war upon America. The 9/11 Commission came to the same conclusion.
 
Why do you care? It's not going to weaken the Air Force.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Why do you care? It's not going to weaken the Air Force.
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The Obama administration has already weaken the U.S. Air Force by grounding 1/3 of the Air Force squadrons and by diverting funds for maintenance, parts and fuel for aircraft for social engineering experimentation.
 
APACHERAT said:
The Obama administration has already weaken the U.S. Air Force by grounding 1/3 of the Air Force squadrons and by diverting funds for maintenance, parts and fuel for aircraft for social engineering experimentation.
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Can you make a post without blaming Obama for something? Anyway, what does any of that have to do drag queens? Do you not like them? That's fine, but why do you think anyone should care about your feelings about them?
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Can you make a post without blaming Obama for something? Anyway, what does any of that have to do drag queens? Do you not like them? That's fine, but why do you think anyone should care about your feelings about them?
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Drag queens are exempt from Obama's sequestration.

It's not my feelings but my opinion.
 
APACHERAT said:
You seem to be trolling. If I agree with you your penis goes flaccid.

Read the "War Powers Act."

Since it's passage every President followed the law of the "War Powers Act" except President Obama when he got involved in the Frogs (French) little war over Labia. After 30 days of using the military in combat without Congress approval, Obama committed an impeachable offense.

Everyone of the examples you provided above, Congress authorized the President to use the military in combat.

Do you want to get in to Mogadishu ? It was President Clinton's policies and his incompetencies of ignoring his military advisor's when the Army requested armor and were denied by Clinton that led to Al Qaeda to attack America on 9-11-01. Osama bin Laden pointed that out in his first Fatwa when he declared war upon America. The 9/11 Commission came to the same conclusion.
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All I am going to say is that TODAY, I read one of your fresh posts in another thread referring to Benghazi where you claimed we have fought something like a total of 150-wars. You remember, you said something to the effect that if an American got hurt in the past . . . We'd just go over and lob a few rounds off shore and make them pay. You made that sound like a good thing. I was not aware we declared war 150-times. Because if we didn't, then each one of those incidents were unconstitutional by your own words. Before or after the War Powers Act. You seriously need to make up your mind. If it's good for your guy, then it's good for the guy you don't see eye to eye with.

This is no different than complaining about guns in the armory and then talk about fragging him just a little while later.
 
DiavoTheMiavo said:
All I am going to say is that TODAY, I read one of your fresh posts in another thread referring to Benghazi where you claimed we have fought something like a total of 150-wars. You remember, you said something to the effect that if an American got hurt in the past . . . We'd just go over and lob a few rounds off shore and make them pay. You made that sound like a good thing. I was not aware we declared war 150-times. Because if we didn't, then each one of those incidents were unconstitutional by your own words. Before or after the War Powers Act. You seriously need to make up your mind. If it's good for your guy, then it's good for the guy you don't see eye to eye with.
This is no different than complaining about guns in the armory and then talk about fragging him just a little while later.
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Maybe you should go back and read my post again and click on the link I provided. The vast majority of the wars America have fought were undeclared wars. The Constitution states that the President needs the authority of Congress to go to war using the U.S. Army, not the U.S. Navy. Before the War Powers Act the President didn't need the approval of Congress to go to war using the Navy and U.S. Marines.

Don't feel alone, most Americans are unaware how often we have gone to war. They only remember the declared wars and the undeclared wars post WW ll.
 
APACHERAT said:
I like the "Urban Dictionary", it's entertaining and informative on how words are being used today in our society in different parts of the country.

You see on my profile I use "Behind the Orange Curtain." for location. It was coined back during the 70's by those living in Orange County not Los Angeles. So your going to see different definitions of "Behind the Orange Curtain."

From someone who doesn't live in Orange County.

>"This term is used by people in Los Angeles, when referring to traveling within Orange County. This refers to the idea that people in Orange County know nothing about what's going on in Los Angeles or even the world, and only are concerned with local affairs.

Comes from the term for Russia "behind the iron curtain" from the cold war era.
Man, I had to go "behind the orange curtain" the other day to visit my cousins. They still think rockabilly is cool!

How come you missed the big concert? Oh man....since I moved behind the Orange curtain, there's no way for me to keep up with what's going on.....there's no LA Weekly or anything! "<

Urban Dictionary: behind the orange curtain

How the phrase is used by those living behind the Orange Curtain.
The original definition:

>"Previously the Orange Curtain referred to the border of Orange county and L.A. county but it is getting more commonly known and anything north of the 55 and the 405 freeways. The filth that is LA has reached down into such cities as Garden Grove, Fullerton, Placentia, Yorba Linda, and of course, Santa Ana. South of the curtain (cities such as Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, Mission Viejo, Irvive, etc) life is still nice and crime is low. Many people refuse to even cross this line because it takes weeks to get the stench out of their cars.
South Orange County is so beautiful and has just about everything but sometimes you just gotta cross the Orange Curtain to find a really seedy strip joint."<

Urban Dictionary: Orange Curtain
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Ah - I hadn't heard of that one before - thanks!
 
APACHERAT said:
Maybe you should go back and read my post again and click on the link I provided. The vast majority of the wars America have fought were undeclared wars. The Constitution states that the President needs the authority of Congress to go to war using the U.S. Army, not the U.S. Navy. Before the War Powers Act the President didn't need the approval of Congress to go to war using the Navy and U.S. Marines.

Don't feel alone, most Americans are unaware how often we have gone to war. They only remember the declared wars and the undeclared wars post WW ll.
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Very true. If anyone wishes to challenge your statements, I would refer them to The Savage Wars Of Peace: Small Wars And The Rise Of American Power. It's a great read.
 
APACHERAT said:
Drag queens are exempt from Obama's sequestration.

It's not my feelings but my opinion.
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So you actually can't go a post without blaming him. Interesting psychological manifestation.
 
lol what a weird thing to say. To promise to bring explosives to anything that's diverse? I realize lots of people have no power in their lives, but that's still sad as hell.
 
APACHERAT said:
Please show how you need diversity in order to get the job done.

Like being able to carry a fire pump up a ladder when your ship is on fire ? You know what I'm referring too.

During the Vietnam War era, 10 million served and we were of one color, green.
There were some racial problems but they were caused by Black Panther types. Otherwise we were able to tell ethnics jokes and and a soldier being interviewed by a reporter in Vietnam could damn LBJ for micromanaging the war from 10,000 miles away and not be court martialed.
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I can carry what needs to be carried, for the most part. But I can also operate a nuclear reactor and it's associated equipment, something many people are unable to learn how to do within a year, as I did. This is proven by the high rate of failure in nuke school even after having high entrance qualifications to begin with. I can't do other jobs though, such as what my husband did because I don't have the upper body strength to rack a 50 cal and probably never would without some serious dedication on my part. And while my husband could have easily been a nuke, like myself (he's amazingly smart), many of the guys in his infantry unit absolutely could not. Just as many of those guys and myself likely could not be corpsman because of either brains, temper, or other reasons. That is what I am talking about. People are different. And different people, people who think differently, offer new, many times better ideas on how to get jobs done.
 
APACHERAT said:
Maybe you should go back and read my post again and click on the link I provided. The vast majority of the wars America have fought were undeclared wars. The Constitution states that the President needs the authority of Congress to go to war using the U.S. Army, not the U.S. Navy. Before the War Powers Act the President didn't need the approval of Congress to go to war using the Navy and U.S. Marines.

Don't feel alone, most Americans are unaware how often we have gone to war. They only remember the declared wars and the undeclared wars post WW ll.
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Well, that's because we didn't fight in 150-wars. Please provide the proof of that claim if you have it. Also, I can't seem to find the clause in the Constitution where it states the president was able to wage war with the Navy and Marines at his pleasure before the War Powers Act . . . can you please provide me with that clause as well. Coincidentally, in my August 2013, VFW magazine I just received, there is an article about the USS Stark and the "Guerrilla Warfare At Sea" in the Persian Gulf, 1987-88. I'm sure that by your definition, you would qualify this as a "War". The president who gave us Lebanon in 1983, and an apparent hero of yours, seems to have been
Prompted by superpower politics, Reagan had agreed the previous March (1986) to provide naval protection in the Persian Gulf to 11 Kuwaiti Oil Company supertankers to be reflagged under U.S. Colors.
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The Iraq/Iran War was in full swing and Reagan was adamant about protecting The Strait of Hormuz and made it clear with the following words why he put our troops in the form of Navy, Marine, and U.S. Army Special Forces in harms way without using the War Powers Act.
Were a hostile power to dominate this strategic region and its resources, it would become a choke point for freedom---that of our allies and our own.
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Why Reagan's end run around the War Powers Act worked, seems to be the wording in it. It's all about troops on the ground, in harms way. Not at sea and not in the air. So, there ya go. It seems it is more likely for a president to get away with what Obama and Reagan got away with based on a semantic interpretation of the War Powers Act.

At least Obama didn't have 37-dead sailors on his hands after Libya . . . like your hero Ronnie. May 17, 1987, the USS Stark is hit by 2-Exocet Missiles fired from an Iraqi Mirage jet. Just like Lebanon, we did nothing . . . in this case because Iraqi was an Enemy of our Enemy, and thus our friend. So, we accepted their excuse that the Iraqi pilot thought the US frigate was an Iranian oil tanker. Sort of makes Benghazi look pale by comparison. Over the next year or so we had countless skirmishes with Iranian gun boats though. That showed em.

Enjoy your day googling.
 
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