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Why hasn't solar power taken over, then? If the market is as strong as you say, we should have decreased our oil usage by at least 15%. What's the deal?
The part that I think most folks don't get, is that when a storm rips through and tears the hell out of your solar power system, the replacement cost is on you.
There's no tax credit, no government bailout and the local power company sure as hell isn't going to replace your $20,000 solar system.
People are still figuring out how to best employ solar power to replace our current energy sources.
No, it's more like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to alternative energy.
That's what insurance is for. :lol:
Ahhh, I see. So, the answer that the treehuggers have--as usual--means more money out of the common man's pocket. yes?
Ya' know what? Right now, I don't have to carry insurance on my electric service. Why the hell would I want to spend my own money on a system, that I had to insure? Care to explain how this good for me again?
As strong as I say? $70 billion isn't that large. It's large, but not like natural gas. Furthermore, you seem to be extremely unaware of the differences between US tax/regulations and foreign regulations. Was I talking about the US or the world? Please actually read posts before replying to them.
Hence why you get insurance. For the same reason replacing parts of your house is on you. What's your point? That's hardly a reason not to get solar. By that measure, we shouldn't buy anything.
Ever heard of a thing called "Home Owner's Insurance?"
Home Solar Panels: How Do They Affect Your Homeowners Insurance?
Oh boy. Seriously.
Google.com Start.Using.It.Now.
So, do you admit your comment on "There's no market" is dead wrong?
IOW, they don't really have the first ****ing clue what to do. Right? That's what I thought.
It's not like solar panels were invented last year. They've been around for, what? 30 years? Weren't there solar panels powering Sky Lab? And, you claim that folks still haven't figured a way to employ solar power to replace petro-fuels?
Educate me! Please!!!!
I think that's the extent of it's praticality.
Ahhh, I see. So, the answer that the treehuggers have--as usual--means more money out of the common man's pocket. yes?
Ya' know what? Right now, I don't have to carry insurance on my electric service. Why the hell would I want to spend my own money on a system, that I had to insure? Care to explain how this good for me again?
[By that measure, don't buy a house. [/b]Apparently you missed the link where some insurance carriers reduce your insurance. So less money out your pocket. [/b]
For the same reason you insure your house against damage? And why would you want to spend your money on such a system? Because it reduces your electrical bill.
Maybe you don't have a home? Maybe that's why you are so confused about what insurance is?
And why would you want to spend your money on such a system? Because it reduces your electrical bill.
Additional insurance premiums equate to less money out of my pocket? How does that work exactly? :rofl
The point, you ask? It costs MORE money and we're in the middle of a recession. How stupid is it to force people into spending more money on their light bill, in the middle of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression?
Not only do people have to pay for the installation and maintanance of their solar power system, now, they have to insure it? And, you called me stupid?!? :rofl
Additional insurance premiums equate to less money out of my pocket? How does that work exactly?
My light bill, in the summer, in one of the hottest, most humid parts of the United States is between $120 and $150 a month. How long would it take, for my solar system with it's $20,000+ price tag, my maintanance bills and insurance bill, to pay for itself? I'm 41, will it happen before I die? Let's see some numbers on that since you know more than the rest of us working stiffs.
No, you're completely wrong, but I guess that's nothing new.
No, I'm claiming that up until relatively recently there hasn't been the kind of investment in this field that there needs to be simply because there hasn't been a whole lot of incentive. That is changing.
I would absolutely love to, but I can't. I'm currently involved in some of the work that you're so blithely ridiculing me, but I've signed an NDA so I can't demonstrate to you how ignorant you really are.
I know you do, but you're wrong.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Are you kidding me?
Insurance doesn't mean more money out of the taxpayer's pocket. Oh brother.
You don't insure the system.
You insure the house it is installed in. Just like you would even if you didn't have such a system.
Duh.
You insure the house it is installed in. Just like you would even if you didn't have such a system.
The U.S. government is handing out nearly $2 billion US for new solar plants that President Barack Obama says will create thousands of jobs and increase the use of renewable energy sources.[/url]
No.
The US government is stealing two billion dollars from America's children to dole out to connected favorites.
Because Obama says it will create jobs the probability that jobs will be lost is almost unity.
Not to mention that Spain's lame green jobs attempt ended in miserable failure.
Finally, some forward thinking.
Centralized government is SOOOOO Twentieth Century.
Nothing forward about going backwards.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that solar polar can replace fossil fuels, but it can still be an effective supplement. And in a country that is apparently debating the use of foreign oil and offshore drilling, it makes sense to at least start the renewable energy process.
No debate. We should drill off shore to stop foreign oil dependency. Solar is never going to be more than a fringe market, so it's not part of the discussion.
Also, the best way to conduct forward research is to be actively using solar.
The best way to conduct research is to stop taxing private businesses so people with money to invest can calculate rewards against known risks and make their personal free decisions without government punishment.
Now,that's "forward" thinking.
What do you mean more? Do you understand the concept of per kilowatt subsidies in the same fashion that are given to nuclear? What are you talking about?
Do you own a car? Why should someone else have to pay for the costs? It's pretty clear you have no idea what the hell Tac and I are talking about.
Watch:
Not only do people have to pay for the installation and maintenance of their roofs, now, they have to insure it? And, you called me stupid?!?
You're a hoot Apdst.
You could read the link. Seriously, what's your problem with reading articles?
So, do you admit your comment on "There's no market" is dead wrong?
There in lies the bottom line of the treehugger bull****: "I can't, because I'm too busy". That's what I thought. You're not too busy to post on an internet discussion forum about how ignorant I am, but you're too busy to explain to me why you're right and I'm wrong.
Right-oh, my man!
You add a $20,000+ system to your home and your insurance bill isn't going to go up. Yeah! Right!! Do you even own a home??
If there was any kind of real market, the government wouldn't have to piss out $2 billion to promote solar energy. I thought you were supposed to be some kinda financial/entrepreneur/business goo-roo.
The market doesn't extend past trolling motor batteries.
If there was a market, private industry would already be all over. Obviously, there's no market. Could that be, because it isn't cost effective?
We're talking about the kind of insurance that any responsible homeowner would have on their home to begin with. :lol:
That blast of common sense deserves a thank you.
So thank you.
If government has to subsidize it, it's not cost effective, it's not efficient, and it's not Constitutional.
That's three "no's".
How many more does anyone need?
The government spends money on R&D because private industry is often reluctant to spend money on something that may or may not work.
This has been said before.
Is English not your first language?
There it is. Some folks are so blinded by the propaganda, that they can't see the trees for the forest.
The government spends money on R&D, because the private sector is purdy much sure that, 1) there's no real market and, 2) it won't work as well as some folks think.
Does common sense exist in your thought patterns? How old are you?
Either you are complete and total moron, or you are attempting to piss me off in the hopes that I will make a mistake and give you an opening to win this retarded little argument, but it's not going to happen.
If you read the rest of the sentence you would've realized I can't talk about it because of non-disclosure agreements, not because I don't have time to talk about it.
I'm not even going to bother answering that question. You have proven so many times in this thread that you don't know the first thing about this subject, so I'm done proving to you how full of crap you are.
Oh yeah, right, that's it!!! You got all the answers; you just can't tell us about it, right now. Hey! I get it, dude! :rofl
I'm 33 and I've been working in R&D for the past decade plus, so I know a hell of a lot more about it than you do. You're so ignorant on the subject, you don't even know enough to know what you don't know.
It was about 20 years ago someone suggested Large Solar plant in the Four Corners area of the Southwest could power the whole country.
Why hasn't solar power taken over, then? If the market is as strong as you say, we should have decreased our oil usage by at least 15%. What's the deal?
Tell us all about it, bro. It's not like solar panels are some state secret.
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