Obama Takes Superdelegate Lead for the First Time

[Redress]

Tell me, how would she do more for blue collar voters? Why do you believe that? I haven't heard of any policy. All that gets offered up is she has experience.

I actually have explained this, though maybe not in this thread(which has grown and mutated). First, it is the "Clinton brand". This area did incredibly well under Bill Clinton, better than it has during my lifetime(I am 43 by the way, to give you an idea what that means). Unemployment, which tends to run about 2 % above state average, was under 5 %, wages where up, both hourly wages, and we worked more hours. The big farmers complained, as it was almost impossible to get help. Hell, Bill Clinton is almost a folk hero, and Hillary benefits from this.

Clinton's economic policy is basically a continuation of Bill Clintons, with the exception of free trade. It is therefore believed that since it worked well for Bill Clinton, and he would be there to offer advice to his wife, that it would hopefully work well for her.

Further, with her work on health care during Bill Clinton's presidency, we get the impression that she actually cares for and wants to help people like us. Obama and Clinton, on policy, are pretty similar, so that caring, and the experience of her husband as an advisor, are key ideas.

 

[Redress]

Wait...don't the voters dictate who wins or looses in the caucuses/primaries?

:lol:

Yes, but it is up to the candidates to convince the voters to vote for them. it is not the voters fault if the candidate fails to do so.

 

[Redress]

All of America has racist, ignorant doofuses. I'm glad to hear that I was exaggerating your stance.

Thankfully, all of america has bright, caring people as well.

 

[Navy Pride]

I begrudge the wealthy? I have news for you, Navy Pride, my husband's and my salaries bring us into the "wealthy." So, I don't think I begrudge myself.

I would love to see what evidence, other than your own personal experience, that the tax cuts have benefitted the poor and middle class.

aps it stand to reason if a person makes 40K a year and is in the 15% tax bracket then they would pay $6K before exemptions in taxes.....If the rate is dropped to .10% then the same person would pay $4K in taxes that is a $2K savings under the president tax cut............I don't know how to explain it any clearer then that.........

As far as your own situation if you think your not paying enough taxes as a wealthy person maybe you should volunteer more of your income..........

This old crap that the rich are not paying their fair share is just democrat spin..........

 

[Navy Pride]

You're also ignorant on what ignorant means.



If you say they were unaware to Obama's policies, that means they were igonrant on the subject of Obama's policies. Do we need an English lession here?

I try to refrain from calling people ignorant........I just think there are a lot of people not up on the issues be they white or black..........

I have seen a man on the street segment where a pundit goes down on the street and shows someone the picture of a prominent politician like a Cheney or a Pelosi and the person has no clue who they are.........I would not call them ignorant maybe not informed...........

 

[the makeout hobo]

I try to refrain from calling people ignorant........I just think there are a lot of people not up on the issues be they white or black..........

I have seen a man on the street segment where a pundit goes down on the street and shows someone the picture of a prominent politician like a Cheney or a Pelosi and the person has no clue who they are.........I would not call them ignorant maybe not informed...........

Is english your first language? You don't seem to be too good with it.

 

[Navy Pride]

Wait...don't the voters dictate who wins or looses in the caucuses/primaries?

:lol:

Yes they do and their vote can be affected by stupid comments the candidate makes..........Obama comes to mind with some of his statements.......

 

[Navy Pride]

Is english your first language? You don't seem to be too good with it.

Your doing it again..........I want you to try and concentrate like a laser beam..........This thread is not about me.........Its about Obama taking over the lead in the super delegates..........When your beat in the debate don't attack your opponent...Its not nice and its not good debating tactics........It also makes you look classless and I don't think your classless.......Its also against the rules.........

Now since you have nothing to add but to attack me I am done with you.......
If you want to debate the issues sometime like gentlemen let me know........

Have a nice evening..........

 

[Navy Pride]

Tell me, how would she do more for blue collar voters? Why do you believe that? I haven't heard of any policy. All that gets offered up is she has experience.

She wouldn't Most middle class hate what she stands for...........Only the left wing middle class of the left wing base would support her........

Obama just stepped on his crank and its costing him big time........

 

[the makeout hobo]

Your doing it again..........I want you to try and concentrate like a laser beam..........This thread is not about me.........Its about Obama taking over the lead in the super delegates..........When your beat in the debate don't attack your opponent...Its not nice and its not good debating tactics........It also makes you look classless and I don't think your classless.......Its also against the rules.........

Now since you have nothing to add but to attack me I am done with you.......
If you want to debate the issues sometime like gentlemen let me know........

Have a nice evening..........

It's also not nice when you butcher the English language. Seriously man, take a grammar class, take a spelling class, and learn the proper use of ellipses. Your misuse of the English language is making baby Jesus and Noah Webster cry. Neither is your condensation towards those uniformed black voters. Maybe, just maybe, people have different opinions, just as well researched as yours. It’s sad seeing a presumably grown man type like he’s 12. Do you have any self respect?

 

[Navy Pride]

I find it rather sad that you refuse to acknowledge that SOME people will not vote for Obama because they're racists. I don't believe that all of his losses are due to race, but racism definitely impacts his losses, IMO.

There is no question that racism plays a part in how a lot of people vote........It has proven out over and over in the democratic primaries......Never more so in NC, SC, West Va. and Pa.

 

[Stace]

Moderator's Warning:

the makeout hobo, please stick to the topic at hand. It doesn't look to me like the topic is Navy Pride or his useage of the English language.

 

[Doc Howl]

But why are over 90% of all black voting for Obama?

Probably because they believe he will represent their interests more than Clinton?

 

[aegyptos]

The working white people of West Virginia are racists for voting 60% for Hillary but blacks aren't racists for voting 90% for Obama? Do I have it right?

 

[Navy Pride]

Probably because they believe he will represent their interests more than Clinton?

Maybe for some but I still think that a huge portion are voting for him because he is black and I believe that is the wrong reason........

If a Black conservative was running I would vote for him regardless of the party.............

 

[Thorgasm]

Maybe for some but I still think that a huge portion are voting for him because he is black and I believe that is the wrong reason........

If a Black conservative was running I would vote for him regardless of the party or if he was black.........

:rofl

The only creature more rare than the compassionate conservative is the black conservative. BTW, Is Alan Keyes still running? :mrgreen:

 

[missypea]

If a Black conservative was running I would vote for him regardless of the party or if he was black.........

A black democrat is running and many, many, many people are voting for him, regardless of his skin color

......just sayin' :shock:

 

[Doc Howl]

Maybe for some but I still think that a huge portion are voting for him because he is black and I believe that is the wrong reason........

And the evidence that has led you to believe this is...?

If a Black conservative was running I would vote for him regardless of the party or if he was black.........

Well, one isn't.

Powell won't, Rice knows most of the country hates her, JC Watts went back to selling out his former constituents, Armstrong Williams slunk out of town, and Alan Keyes is nuts.

 

[Doc Howl]

:rofl

The only creature more rare than the compassionate conservative is the black conservative. BTW, Is Alan Keyes still running? :mrgreen:

Only if the voices in his head tell him to.

 

[aegyptos]

Powell won't, Rice knows most of the country hates her, JC Watts went back to selling out his former constituents, Armstrong Williams slunk out of town, and Alan Keyes is nuts.

Hiya LP! Nice to see you back.

Only problem with your terribly insightful and merde laden post is, none of these people are conservatives. Not one. You've been back two days now and have made over two hundred posts and havent' gotten one fact right yet. That's got to be some sort of record. Even for a faux cop.

 

[missypea]

Hiya LP! Nice to see you back.

Only problem with your terribly insightful and merde laden post is, none of these people are conservatives. Not one. You've been back two days now and have made over two hundred posts and havent' gotten one fact right yet. That's got to be some sort of record. Even for a faux cop.

WOW that's impressive...are you with neighborhood watch? :mrgreen:

 

[aegyptos]

WOW that's impressive...are you with neighborhood watch? :mrgreen:

Call me a fool but I fell hard for him last night.

 

[Hatuey]

If a Black conservative was running I would vote for him regardless of the party.............

Did you vote for Alan Keyes?

 

[Navy Pride]

:rofl

The only creature more rare than the compassionate conservative is the black conservative. BTW, Is Alan Keyes still running? :mrgreen:

Guess you never heard of Clarence Thomas huh?

 

[Navy Pride]

Did you vote for Alan Keyes?

He did not get the nomination..........I might of if he had.........