Obama should not run again -for USA and for Party

[haymarket]

You can ask until hell freezes over but since you don't have a clue about the budget of the United States and how the SS surplus is nothing more than IOU's I am going to let you figure it out for yourself. Where is the money going to come from to fund those IOU's. I do feel your pain being duped by the liberal ideology, LOL. Not really you deserve what you are going to get.

Forget about the IOU's for a moment.

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

You cannot do it because your entire contentions is based on a lie.

 

[Conservative]

The money is going to come from the same pocket that pays China,the Saudies and anyone else we owe money to.

Yep, debt service is going to go up so we borrow money from a different credit card or print more money.

 

[haymarket]

The money is going to come from the same pocket that pays China,the Saudies and anyone else we owe money to.

Of course it will. The fact that Conservative refuses to acknowledge the reality of that causes me to suspect that he places a much higher priority on our paying our debts to Communist China than he does the ones to the American people.

Could it be that Conservative is a closet supporter of Communist China?

 

[Conservative]

Forget about the IOU's for a moment.

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

You cannot do it because your entire contentions is based on a lie.

You don't get it, the SS fund has IOU's in it, not cash. There is no surplus in cash so it will be borrowed or printed.. I better stop now before I say something to get me banned. Explaining things to a liberal is impossible. What is it that creates such loyalty to a failed ideology?

 

[Donc]

Yep, debt service is going to go up so we borrow money from a different credit card or print more money.

Either that or…gasp.. raise taxes or…double gasp:shock: remove some Corp welfare.:2wave:

 

[haymarket]

You don't get it, the SS fund has IOU's in it, not cash. There is no surplus in cash so it will be borrowed or printed.. I better stop now before I say something to get me banned. Explaining things to a liberal is impossible. What is it that creates such loyalty to a failed ideology?

Forget about the IOU's.
Forget about the Trust Fund.

It is irrelevant to you answering this line of inquiry:

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

 

[sangha]

You don't get it, the SS fund has IOU's in it, not cash. There is no surplus in cash so it will be borrowed or printed.. I better stop now before I say something to get me banned. Explaining things to a liberal is impossible. What is it that creates such loyalty to a failed ideology?

The money will come from the same place we get the money to pay the chinese - tax revenues

You see? It was a simple question, with a simple answer that you couldn't or wouldnt post. And it blows your nonsense out of the water

 

[Conservative]

Either that or…gasp.. raise taxes or…double gasp:shock: remove some Corp welfare.:2wave:

Raising taxes will certainly help put 25 million Americans back to work, won't it?

 

[Conservative]

Forget about the IOU's.
Forget about the Trust Fund.

It is irrelevant to you answering this line of inquiry:

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

Here we go again, waste time posting the same message over and over again so that you can do what you always do, ACT like the answer hasn't been given to you. It has, you just don't get it and never will. You are a liberal. What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?

 

[sangha]

Raising taxes will certainly help put 25 million Americans back to work, won't it?

Nice job ignoring the other way to pay for SS.

 

[haymarket]

Raising taxes will certainly help put 25 million Americans back to work, won't it?

Conservative - one can only strongly suspect that you are doing yet again what you always do when you get trapped into a tight corner of your own construction with no way out. So man up and face the probelm you have created for yourself.

Forget about the IOU's.
Forget about the Trust Fund.

It is irrelevant to you answering this line of inquiry:

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

 

[Donc]

Raising taxes will certainly help put 25 million Americans back to work, won't it?

I thought that we had this thread perfectly derailed into a SS thread, now you want to derail it into a employment thread?:mrgreen:

 

[sangha]

Here we go again, waste time posting the same message over and over again so that you can do what you always do, ACT like the answer hasn't been given to you. It has, you just don't get it and never will. You are a liberal. What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?

Here we go again, waste time ignoring a simple question over and over again so that you can do what you always do, ACT like the answer hasn't been given to you. It has, you just don't answer it. What is it about rightwingerism that creates so many ad homs?

It was a simple question

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

 

[haymarket]

Here we go again, waste time posting the same message over and over again so that you can do what you always do, ACT like the answer hasn't been given to you. It has, you just don't get it and never will. You are a liberal. What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?

Pardon my blindness.

Where is your answer to this question?

I did not see you give one and the article you provided did not answer it. So where is it?

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

 

[Conservative]

Pardon my blindness.

Where is your answer to this question?

I did not see you give one and the article you provided did not answer it. So where is it?

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

I know as a liberal you are used to having someone else do all the work for you but not this time. I suggest you start with the budget of the United States. You can start here and see how much SS is used each year on budget.

Current Report: Combined Statement of Receipts, Outlays, and Balances of the United States Government (Combined Statement): Publications & Guidance: Financial Management Service

 

[sangha]

I know as a liberal you are used to having someone else do all the work for you but not this time. I suggest you start with the budget of the United States. You can start here and see how much SS is used each year on budget.

Current Report: Combined Statement of Receipts, Outlays, and Balances of the United States Government (Combined Statement): Publications & Guidance: Financial Management Service

It was a simple question, with a simple answer made even simpler by the fact that the answer has already been posted. Let's try again

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

 

[Donc]

Pardon my blindness.

Where is your answer to this question?

I did not see you give one and the article you provided did not answer it. So where is it?

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

You keep this up haymarket you might have to look at some random numbers in a minute.:2wave:

 

[haymarket]

I know as a liberal you are used to having someone else do all the work for you but not this time. I suggest you start with the budget of the United States. You can start here and see how much SS is used each year on budget.

Current Report: Combined Statement of Receipts, Outlays, and Balances of the United States Government (Combined Statement): Publications & Guidance: Financial Management Service

That does not answer the question either.

You see Conservative - there is NOTHING I can look to for the answer because your allegation is based on a lie and there is no factual support for it.

Are we clear on that?

When you allege that there will not be enough money to pay future SS payments - you are LYING. Not just misrepresenting. Not just interpreting wrongly. You are LYING.

But please go ahead and prove me wrong.

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

 

[Conservative]

You keep this up haymarket you might have to look at some random numbers in a minute.:2wave:

Don't worry, the govt. never lies to you, there is plenty of money in the SS trust fund which is Intergovt. holdings. No problems, just trust me. It won't be any problem funding those IOU's, trust me. There won't be any inflation, trust me. There really isn't a deficit either nor a 14.6 trillion dollar debt, trust me. We need more liberal math majors here.

 

[Conservative]

That does not answer the question either.

You see Conservative - there is NOTHING I can look to for the answer because your allegation is based on a lie and there is no factual support for it.

Are we clear on that?

When you allege that there will not be enough money to pay future SS payments - you are LYING. Not just misrepresenting. Not just interpreting wrongly. You are LYING.

But please go ahead and prove me wrong.

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

Yep, that is what I am doing lying to you, no problem there is plenty of money in the SS fund to pay all our obligations. those IOU's really don't exist and your money all these years has gone into a lock box, just ask Al Gore.

 

[sangha]

Don't worry, the govt. never lies to you, there is plenty of money in the SS trust fund which is Intergovt. holdings. No problems, just trust me. It won't be any problem funding those IOU's, trust me. There won't be any inflation, trust me. There really isn't a deficit either nor a 14.6 trillion dollar debt, trust me. We need more liberal math majors here.

Umm, he didn't ask about money in the SS fund. Maybe you should read the question again (assuming you read it the first time)

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

 

[haymarket]

Don't worry, the govt. never lies to you, there is plenty of money in the SS trust fund which is Intergovt. holdings. No problems, just trust me. It won't be any problem funding those IOU's, trust me. There won't be any inflation, trust me. There really isn't a deficit either nor a 14.6 trillion dollar debt, trust me. We need more liberal math majors here.

Still trying to bring in some more smoke and mirrors to allow you to escape from that tight corner of your own construction I see.

Sorry, but nobody is buying it.

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

Or just admit that you cannot and we can all move along.

Its up to you Conservative.

 

[sangha]

Yep, that is what I am doing lying to you, no problem there is plenty of money in the SS fund to pay all our obligations. those IOU's really don't exist and your money all these years has gone into a lock box, just ask Al Gore.

Umm, he didn't ask about money in the SS fund. Maybe you should read the question again (assuming you read it the first time)

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

Your continuing to answer the wrong question is making your responses look foolish or dishonest

 

[haymarket]

Umm, he didn't ask about money in the SS fund. Maybe you should read the question again (assuming you read it the first time)

He just does not get it. I suspect his own ideological blindness will prevent him from ever getting it.

However, being good people of good will we should not give up on Conservative. We should continue to try to educate him on this issue. It is the right and proper thing to do for a fellow American.

 

[Conservative]

Still trying to bring in some more smoke and mirrors to allow you to escape from that tight corner of your own construction I see.

Sorry, but nobody is buying it.

Just tell us when in the foreseeable future the federal government of the USA will not take in enough money to pay out the Social Security for that year. And then tell us how you reached this conclusion.

Or just admit that you cannot and we can all move along.

Its up to you Conservative.

You think that I care that the liberals here aren't buying it? LOL, I won't be able to sleep tonight worrying about that one. You people are like cult followers. There is plenty of money and those IOU's don't exist at all. Don't worry about it, all your money contributed to the SS fund is there waiting for you. don't worry about the 14.6 trillion dollar debt, SS funds weren't used there either. No problem!