Obama Press Conference with Netanyahu

[Conservative]

an organization which vows to oust the oppressive israeli occupying force from its lands
what would the founding fathers call them? terrorists or freedom fighters

Those that believe Israel is an occupier should have thought about that before they attacked Israel and continue to attack Israel.

 

[Grant]

Don't like the message, shoot the messenger. Nothing new here.

I never said I didn't like the message, I said it made no sense.This thread has noting to do with the Iraqis rising up against Saddam Hussein.

When in doubt, it must be Obama's fault. Because in 1967, the Arab states were leaving strategy to a 6 year old who isn't even Arab. They look to the US for leadership, he is the President of the United States.

There doesn't seem to be any doubt in this situation whose fault it is. Even the Israeli opposition parties are supporting their leaders with only his slavish followers trying to justify his remarks

Didn't read what I said, did you? I didn't suggest that the 1967 borders were a realistic solution. Neither did Obama. FAIL.

In fact I did read what you posted and said "You might get some strange responses to the question on an internet debate board but few of them would be foolish enough to suggest a return to the 1967 borders".

If BHO doesn't understand the signifigance og his words, and it seems he doesn;t, then he should avoid saying him.

Remarking on the 1967 borders may seem innocent enough to you but they are very significant to the people in the Middle East, as we can quickly determine by their responses. The Arab Muslims because it reminds them of their defeats and the Jews because it reminds them of their having to live under a constant threat. It was not only a pointless comment, it demonstrated his ignorance on the area and the strong feelings involved. If anything, it set back any progress that might have been in place.

I think BHO should blame a malfunction with his teleprompter. That's his only way out of this "I was only trying to help" situation.

 

[The Prof]

what would the founding fathers call them? terrorists or freedom fighters

it depends on whether the targets of their violence were little girls and their grammas

hello

 

[justabubba]

Those that believe Israel is an occupier should have thought about that before they attacked Israel and continue to attack Israel.

are you saying the israeli army is not an occupational force?

 

[Conservative]

are you saying the israeli army is not an occupational force?

To the victor goes the spoils.

 

[Grant]

That complicates the situation. No doubt. However, do you think Hamas is going anywhere? Assuming you don't think so, they don't have much of a choice, do they?

Realistically speaking, the Palestinians aren't moving en masse. Hamas is part of the politics of any future Palestinian state. If Netanyahu and Israel desire peace, they have to deal with people they don't want to.

They have dealt with Hamas and their predecessors for decades. This is nothing new for Israel. It is new for Obama though, and that's been made very clear from his remarks on the subject.

 

[The Prof]

It wasn't a great speech or a balanced recipe.

yup

Still, how do we get from point A to point B?

ask george mitchell

 

[The Prof]

If the **** going to be slung a fair amount of it's going to land on GWB.

remember november

 

[justabubba]

To the victor goes the spoils.

when did the Palestinian people conduct a war against israel?

 

[Grant]

are you saying the israeli army is not an occupational force?

If the Arabs attacked Israel in 1967, as most everyone understands to be the case, then Israel obviously existed. No one has, to my knowledge anyway, claimed there was a war between the Arabs forces and "an occupied area".

Following the several attacks on Israel, as well as terrorist attacks on its citizens, the Israelis rightly strengthened their borders by winning over land the Arabs lost by attacking and then losing. That is normal and Europe's history is riddled with such occurrences. Few Europeans look at these changes several generations later as land still being "occupied". That's only the case with Israel.

It's really is all about Jews. There are areas of the world far more worthy of closer inspection than Israel, but that's where the Jews are.

 

[Grant]

when did the Palestinian people conduct a war against israel?

Are you genuinely unaware of rockets being fired into Israel, of terrorist attacks going back several decades?

 

[justabubba]

Are you genuinely unaware of rockets being fired into Israel, of terrorist attacks going back several decades?

they did that in '67 ... back when the "spoils" were taken by israel?

 

[Grant]

they did that in '67 ... back when the "spoils" were taken by israel?

Can you please be more clear as to what it is you don't understand?

 

[justabubba]

Can you please be more clear as to what it is you don't understand?

you insist that the land was lost in the '67 war declared by the Palestinians, who were firing rockets into israel
i call bull**** on that revision of historical fact

 

[Grant]

you insist that the land was lost in the '67 war declared by the Palestinians, who were firing rockets into israel
i call bull**** on that revision of historical fact

Oh really??

And where did I declare that???
.

 

[Deuce]

Are you genuinely unaware of rockets being fired into Israel, of terrorist attacks going back several decades?

So, the Palestinian people are terrorists, is what you're saying?

 

[Grant]

So, the Palestinian people are terrorists, is what you're saying?

Some certainly are.

Would you disagree?

 

[pbrauer]

Oh, My!!! As anyone reading this can tell he is pointing to Obama's immaturity, that he is wet behind the ears, and so on,

Leftists will look for racism everywhere, just as BHO first began using it in his election campaign.

When you lose all the debates, when you have no support in reason, honor, decency or political policies then the cries of 'racism' begin.

How very pathetic and offensive that is.

How pathetic an immature is it to call the POTUS a "boy child," especially from somebody who is old enough to have more class than that? I don't know if his comment was racially inspired but it certainly could be, that's for you and others to decide.

 

[Grant]

How pathetic an immature is it to call the POTUS a "boy child," especially from somebody who is old enough to have more class than that? I don't know if his comment was racially inspired but it certainly could be, that's for you and others to decide.

So you call him a racist because he "could be"??

You could be any things also, which I won't go into here, but before I would make those charges I would want to be certain..

You holler "racist" and then claim he "could be".

What hypocrisy!

 

[pbrauer]

So you call him a racist because he "could be"??

You could be any things also, which I won't go into here, but before I would make those charges I would want to be certain..

You holler "racist" and then claim he "could be".

What hypocrisy!

I didn't call him a racist, get your facts straight. I don't know what's in his heart and neither do you.

 

[Sheik Yerbuti]

So, the Palestinian people are terrorists, is what you're saying?

Their government is and they voted them in.

 

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[Grant]

I didn't call him a racist, get your facts straight. I don't know what's in his heart and neither do you.

You're right, and I apologize.

What you said was "You sure have in for our black pesident, don't you? Do you want him to shine your shoes?"

I guess readers
will judge from that also,

 

[Red Crow]

But this isn't the first time it's happened. The last time they met publicly Netanyahu gave Obama a very meaningful stare and Barrack almost squirmed under his gaze. BHO is just horribly out of his depth.

Yeah... I remember that occasion also, Netanyahu is a MAN and Obama is just a kid compared to him.

 

[DashingAmerican]

NO one takes him seriously? Seriously. Have you not been paying attention to the rapid rise of Democracy throughout the world over the last year as a direct result of the shift in Obama's foreign policy from the previous clown's?

I thank God every day for a President that is finally restoring honor and integrity to this country. We are once again becoming the shining beacon to the world that we haven't been for the last decade.

Laugh Out Loud.