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Obama Care the best thing under Sun...say Red States!

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As Obamacare goes into effect, and many Red States are hailing the program (as their own) and some states are getting creative with ads telling residents about the healthcare law's benefits. Don't Care who takes the credit as long as People get the benefits.

But then we have our beloved Koch Brothers...God bless them...with their multi-million dollar misinformation campaign. The conservative group Americans for Prosperity is spending a fortune on television ads aimed at turning Americans against the new healthcare law.


The group's first ad is called "Questions," and it features a mother of two who tells viewers that she "has some questions about Obamacare." Her so-called questions imply that under the Affordable Healthcare Act, she will be paying higher premiums and won't be able to select her family's doctor.

The ad perpetuates myths that have been clearly debunked. There is nothing in Obamacare that stops patients from choosing their own doctors, and people who get their insurance through their employer likely won't see any changes at all. And, while the Americans For Prosperity ad refers to higher healthcare premiums, we've seen insurance rates go down in states implementing the law - like California - and millions of Americans will qualify for subsidies to purchase healthcare through insurance exchanges.


In fact, it's Republican policies - like refusing to implement the law's Medicaid expansion - not Obamacare - that will leave some people uninsured. The constant misinformation from the Right is exactly why states like Oregon and New Jersey are working so hard to inform the public about the law's new benefits with their new television ads. However, thanks to the Koch brothers, Americans will have a difficult time sorting through the lies, and figuring out the real ways Obamacare will improve their lives.

The Koch Brothers' Advertising Campaign - NYTimes.com


I gotta love the republicans and Conservative...they burn God and Country just to make Political points....They are truly majestic political animals.

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As Obamacare goes into effect, and many Red States are hailing the program (as their own) and some states are getting creative with ads telling residents about the healthcare law's benefits. Don't Care who takes the credit as long as People get the benefits.

But then we have our beloved Koch Brothers...God bless them...with their multi-million dollar misinformation campaign. The conservative group Americans for Prosperity is spending a fortune on television ads aimed at turning Americans against the new healthcare law.


The group's first ad is called "Questions," and it features a mother of two who tells viewers that she "has some questions about Obamacare." Her so-called questions imply that under the Affordable Healthcare Act, she will be paying higher premiums and won't be able to select her family's doctor.

The ad perpetuates myths that have been clearly debunked. There is nothing in Obamacare that stops patients from choosing their own doctors, and people who get their insurance through their employer likely won't see any changes at all. And, while the Americans For Prosperity ad refers to higher healthcare premiums, we've seen insurance rates go down in states implementing the law - like California - and millions of Americans will qualify for subsidies to purchase healthcare through insurance exchanges.


In fact, it's Republican policies - like refusing to implement the law's Medicaid expansion - not Obamacare - that will leave some people uninsured. The constant misinformation from the Right is exactly why states like Oregon and New Jersey are working so hard to inform the public about the law's new benefits with their new television ads. However, thanks to the Koch brothers, Americans will have a difficult time sorting through the lies, and figuring out the real ways Obamacare will improve their lives.

The Koch Brothers' Advertising Campaign - NYTimes.com


I gotta love the republicans and Conservative...they burn God and Country just to make Political points....They are truly majestic political animals.

Diving Mullah

Um, many red states like Oregon and New Jersey? OK, I believe all of the rest too...
 

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Um, many red states like Oregon and New Jersey? OK, I believe all of the rest too...
how is NJ a red state both the houses are democrat with a Rino governor
 

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how is NJ a red state both the houses are democrat with a Rino governor

Oregon has 2D Senators, with 4D, 1R in the House. New Jersey has 1R, 1D Seantors with 4R, 2D in the House. I love examples that call purple states red when they need them to prove one point and call them blue when they need them to prove another. NJ is redder than Oregon, for sure, but hardly a conservative place.

New Jersey was one of just six states to swing in President Obama's favor between 2008 and 2012, giving him the largest vote share for a Democratic presidential nominee in the state since the 1964 Democratic landslide.

United States presidential election in New Jersey, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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What else would you expect from an OP who identifies as “Very Conservative”, and yet only ever mindlessly repeats the standard talking points of the far wrong?

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Um, many red states like Oregon and New Jersey? OK, I believe all of the rest too...

Practice reading more carefully....

In fact, it's Republican policies - like refusing to implement the law's Medicaid expansion - not Obamacare - that will leave some people uninsured. The constant misinformation from the Right is exactly why states like Oregon and New Jersey are working so hard to inform the public about the law's new benefits with their new television ads. However, thanks to the Koch brothers, Americans will have a difficult time sorting through the lies, and figuring out the real ways Obamacare will improve their lives.

Different paragraph...different facts...

But I understand and know the mantra...don't like facts and figures...makeup your own...Thoughts and workings of the True American Talibans!

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What else would you expect from an OP who identifies as “Very Conservative”, and yet only ever mindlessly repeats the standard talking points of the far wrong?

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Because someone who uses the term "far wrong" is just a bastion of honest debate, eh?
 

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Because someone who uses the term "far wrong" is just a bastion of honest debate, eh?

It's the plain truth. Contrary to popular misconception, where politician ideology is concerned, the opposite of “right” is not “left”; the opposite of “right” is “wrong”.

My side is the “far right”, so the side that opposes mine is the “far wrong”.

It's just plain common sense; not that common sense has much place in most people's views of political ideology.
 
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Because someone who uses the term "far wrong" is just a bastion of honest debate, eh?


Great point. It seems impossible to find a rational conservative to have a debate instead of a petty argument with on this site.
 

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As Obamacare goes into effect, and many Red States are hailing the program (as their own) and some states are getting creative with ads telling residents about the healthcare law's benefits. Don't Care who takes the credit as long as People get the benefits.

But then we have our beloved Koch Brothers...God bless them...with their multi-million dollar misinformation campaign. The conservative group Americans for Prosperity is spending a fortune on television ads aimed at turning Americans against the new healthcare law.


The group's first ad is called "Questions," and it features a mother of two who tells viewers that she "has some questions about Obamacare." Her so-called questions imply that under the Affordable Healthcare Act, she will be paying higher premiums and won't be able to select her family's doctor.

The ad perpetuates myths that have been clearly debunked. There is nothing in Obamacare that stops patients from choosing their own doctors, and people who get their insurance through their employer likely won't see any changes at all. And, while the Americans For Prosperity ad refers to higher healthcare premiums, we've seen insurance rates go down in states implementing the law - like California - and millions of Americans will qualify for subsidies to purchase healthcare through insurance exchanges.


In fact, it's Republican policies - like refusing to implement the law's Medicaid expansion - not Obamacare - that will leave some people uninsured. The constant misinformation from the Right is exactly why states like Oregon and New Jersey are working so hard to inform the public about the law's new benefits with their new television ads. However, thanks to the Koch brothers, Americans will have a difficult time sorting through the lies, and figuring out the real ways Obamacare will improve their lives.

The Koch Brothers' Advertising Campaign - NYTimes.com


I gotta love the republicans and Conservative...they burn God and Country just to make Political points....They are truly majestic political animals.

Diving Mullah

Great points. Why do so many republicans have to be such emotionally delicate little flowers about everything? They seem to run around screaming "the sky is falling the sky is falling" about EVERYTHING. Like now that DOMA is shot down the "American Family" (whatever that means) is going to be DESTROYED!!!! Calm down for gods sake and stopping reacting to everything with fear and anger.
 
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